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Very good but neither a masterpiece nor sci-fi in my opinion. It struck me more as psychedelic psycho-drama.
There was an interview with the director and actors after the credits in the theater where I watched it. Alex Garland discussed how he purposely kept the effects budget low so that he could maintain creative control, and that it was a standard trade-off in movies.
Avoiding old tropes and cliches is completely independent of quality writing. The movie is shit regardless of how "irreverent" it is.
Poe's Law: "an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views."
I don't think it's either/or. It is possible to satisfy fans with new content. Just requires more effort and quality.
Your response is the epitome of the entire TLJ debate. Detractors of the movie write long detailed responses, and supporters such as yourself write curt content-free insults such as "knuckle-dragging crazed lunatics". Makes it really clear who put thought into their statements. Also makes me wonder if you are associated with the studio and are "butthurt", as people such as yourself like to say.
Where did this idea even come from? I see everyone repeating it but no evidence that it's true. I'm guessing someone speculated that's why the score is higher than it seems it should be, and someone else took it as fact, and the rumor propagated.
And in fact two of the most famous Chinese actors played central characters in Rogue One and it worked well because they did an awesome job and the plot made sense.
We shouldn't even be giving this douche nozzle views, but it seems he meant the Anthology Series, which are the standalone films of which Rogue One is the first. Rogue One was amazing by the way, and I'm hoping that the strategy by Disney is that the Anthology Series is for adults while the Sequel Trilogy and further Rian Johnson films are for the youth.
You crazy. Rian Johnson and David Lynch in the same bucket? Holy
I wish moviechat had an upvote button. Fuck that guy.
It SHOULD give him a dark night of despair. Instead of trying to join and extend the communal vision of the mythical world of star wars, he tried to bring something different. That would be fine if he had something profound and transcendent to offer, but he only brought his own self-centered ego and also acted as a conduit for Disney's nefarious desires into the film. His version was oh so "random", rather than the supposed "bold and fresh" direction the critics slavishly claim it to be.
“There’s nothing I’ve read or seen that’s made me think, ‘Oh god, I did kind of mess that up, I would’ve done that differently if I could go back,’” Johnson said. “I still genuinely believe in all the decisions I’ve made.”
Frankly, this is the sign of serious narcissistic tendencies, showing he can find a way to excuse himself no matter what valid criticisms arise.
If you've read even a few critiques of the movie or just paid attention yourself you'd know that there are numerous gaping problems with the movie that can't be written off as a misunderstanding by the viewer, and the fact that he is in full denial of these demonstrates that he's accepted the path of the dark side.
People like discussing the negative aspects of things as much as the positive. And people like going into deep discussions, negative and positive. If it bothers you, don't read it. We will continue to discuss.
This is a forum, a place specifically for discussion, about movies. It seems really odd to encourage people to stop talking about a movie here.
Maybe at the lunch table at work it might get old, but this is a movie forum!
Wow, you really thought RO was the worst?
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Do you know what forum you are posting on?
Corny dialog, gaping plot holes, continuity errors galore, and just generally bad writing. Wrong venue to play with the audience expectations with the postmodern meta commentary. Horrible attempt at trying to be intellectual while selling stuffed animals at the same time. Some parts were competently made, so 3/10.
And they had him trying to steal an escape pod. Doesn't make any sense when compared to TFA.