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For one, she wasn't his wife.
if you notice when he tells her and the son to go away and not come back, where was the intimacy from the "wife"? Where was the goodbye kiss? He's just told her that the thing he warned her about that would happen, has happened and she has to go.
Sure, they live in the same house, but I got the impression he gave them some place to stay after her boyfriend tried to kill her son, and he was fine with them staying for as long as they needed, and he became a father figure to the boy.
He already explained they don't have a physical relationship.
He's a self employed draper, invited to peoples homes to do his work, i.e. less out in public where he might not pass such close scrutiny.
Does he need to provide a Social Security Number to be a draper? He certainly would if he worked for someone else.
He's trying to stay under the radar whilst still blending in enough to be just another person.
You can't compare previous Terminators to the REV9.
For a start, this is no longer Skynet, its Legion.
In every single encounter i've just seen, the REV9 is trying to kill its target, yes it throws some people around that get in its way, but actual threats, its killing them, and every time it gets near Dani, its trying to kill her.
Whilst im no big fan of Disney Star Wars, the claim they are not remotely close to profit seems hollow.
Disney also own ILM as part of the deal, and they keep working and keep making money.
Well wasn't the character properly divisive for people in TLJ?
Finn tried to sacrifice himself to save what remained of the Rebels, and Rose stopped him, other than that, she had pretty much no influence over anything that occurred in the movie, and was clearly a character JJ didn't write.
So he's left with the conundrum of "WTF do I do with a character that didn't get anything right in the previous movie?", so he kept her in long enough so she would be spotted by her "fans" so she wasn't entirely sidelined, and then basically forgotten her.
I don't think you can be so dismissive about peoples reactions to Rey.
It wasn't that Rey was female that was the issue for people, it was the fact that Rey was super awesome at everything that got up peoples noses.
The OT was as much about the journey of Luke for him to become worthy and good enough to fight his father and win.
In Star Wars, it would have been laughable for Luke to take anyone on with a light sabre, he was barely coping with those training drones, yet Rey not only needs no training, she wipes the floor with Kylo Ren in their first encounter.
She flies the Millennium Falcon better than the guy thats owned it the longest, even though theres absolutely ZERO to suggest an orphan being abandoned on a planet would ever get the chance to train to fly like that.
The fact Rey is a female is utterly irrelevant to peoples problem, it took Luke 3 movies to become a Jedi, Rey basically achieved that before her first movie was over.
I'm all for putting women in better roles, Leia is a good example, but Rey is not.
Its clear the message of empowerment came before the story.
The story should always come first.
"Then Attack of the Clones comes out and everyone complains about the love story."
Nah, ah. Thats not what they complained about.
This is what they complained about.
"I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere!"
There was no boycott, in the same way there was no boycott of Captain Marvel.
All those guys on Youtube thinking they've got more power than they actually have, and they urge everyone to boycott..... and then go and pay to see the movie they've been slamming all year because they need to make more videos to keep slamming it, because gotta get those sweet, sweet views and subscriptions.
I'll see this movie when its a bit quieter, but it'll be on a cheap night, because I was so disappointed in The Last Jedi, i'm not giving anyone any more money than I have to.
But its the final movie in this trilogy, there was never a danger in it actually outright failing, it'll make a profit and Disney will consider themselves lucky it didn't go anything like Solo.
It will be interesting to see how this movie fares in comparison to the other two though.
But the day anyone actually bothers to take Midnights Edge, World Class Bullshitters, Nerdrotic and The Quartering seriously, is the day we've lost our collective minds and like to be directed by others.
It did $700million less than Force Awakens.
Most modern sequels 99.99% of the time do more money than the previous movie.
Marvel is a good example.
ergo, The Last Jedi lost $700million.....thats almost Captain America: The Winter Soldiers total box office it lost.
So The Last Jedi lost $700million, Solo outright flopped.
And you think Star Wars will continue on the same route?
Ok then!
I think if anything, Disney from this moment going forward will treat Star Wars with a bit more dignity and care.
They ain't stupid, they will be having meetings to figure out why it lost its way, where they felt it started going wrong, and what they can do about it for the future.
They'll look at Marvel as a beacon of how to get things right, they'll note that Kevin Feige was instrumental into getting the direction of the MCU absolutely right, and they'll ask what was it he did that Star Wars didn't.
They'll soon realise that where things went wrong was allowing Rhian Johnson full control to do whatever he wanted for The Last Jedi.
They'll realise that what made George Lucas' movies work, was that each trilogy was mapped out and planned in advance. Quite simply, Rhian Johnson would not have had the freedom to do whatever he wanted if he were in a position to direct any of the OT or PT movies.
Its quite obvious to me that what Johnson did, derailed what JJ had in mind for his movies.
And you had Kathleen Kennedy helming, who was more interested taking Star Wars in a direction it had no business being (the force is female etc). First and foremost, she should have been ensuring that the core audience was onboard, but she appeared happy to foster an atmosphere of antagonism toward the core audience, which i'll never understand.
Its almost as if, Disney and Kennedy thought that Star Wars was utterly bullet proof where they could do whatever it was they liked, and the audience would be there for them regardless.
Once the dust settles, Kennedy will be gone, and they'll go into some proper planning.
This trilogy will remain canon, but they will likely set the next trilogy far into the future where they don't have to reference it.
I'd hold off on calling the "haters" stupid.
Sure, its only done $25million less than TLJ on opening weekend in the US, but its next weekend that will show the longevity of TROS.
If it has as disastrous a 2nd weekend drop like TLJ did, TROS could conceivably do less total box office than TLJ.
You can't really factor in China, its never really been a market for Star Wars because when the original trilogy came out, i'm pretty sure only pirated movies were shown and not in their native tongue.
Star Wars has never been the phenomenon in China it has been in the West.
Rogue One. Sure its not part of the trilogy, but it reminds me of more hopeful times when Disney were getting stuff right.
Irrelevant. If the movie was crap, WOM would have killed it off in its second weekend and it would have continued its drop.
Therefore the conclusion is that WOM was good and that is why people went to see it.
Theres little to no chance that this doesn't at least make $1billion at the box office, its the end to a trilogy, and as far as the Star Wars story/franchise goes, it has more importance than Rogue One or Solo, both of which would have changed nothing if they had not been made (for the record, I Love Rogue One!).
Theres enough curious people that will give in and see it.
However, Star Wars is in a position this Christmas where it doesn't have the Box Office to itself, and has potentially some VERY strong competition.
Now, I have absolutely no bloody interest in Cats, but I can assure you, the female audience is there for it.
Jumanji: The Next Level starts now, and if that plays anything like the previous movie, theres no reason to suggest it won't do a billion. Whether Cats has it in it to do that also is anyones guess, but Star Wars won't be the only choice this Christmas.
And therein lies its problem. If it in any way has a second weekend drop like The Last Jedi did, or drops siginficantly on its opening weekend in comparison to either TLJ or TFA, the competition Star Wars faces means it might only just hit a billion worldwide.
At this point, critic reviews are irrelevant. There is such a disparity between critics and the general audience that if the same WOM that harmed TLJ gets to Rise of Skywalker, then its entirely possible that the latter just fails to hit a billion.
I'm still confident that it hits a billion though, I think personally it will do slightly better than TLJ, but not by much, and when you consider that Rise of Skywalker is likely to be that much more expensive to make, it needs to do more than TLJ for Disney to not consider it a failure.
Sorry, thats not how "word of mouth" works.
If there was disappointment to the degree you're suggesting there was with Force Awakens, it wouldn't have done over $2billion, because WOM would have neutered it.
The Last Jedi was wrecked by WOM. It did great in its opening weekend, but as soon as WOM got out after that opening week, it dropped massively (I think its the biggest drop for such a high opening movie), so your Force Awakens example simply doesn't work.
To further show your example holds no water whatsoever, Force Awakens opened to $247million opening weekend, The Last Jedi was $220million opening weekend.
For there to only be a $27million difference between the two, doesn't suggest people were universally disappointed with Force Awakens, if they were, you would expect a much bigger dent in TLJ opening weekend.
To further show that you're not quite on the money:
Force Awakens Second weekend:
Friday $49million
Saturday $56million
Sunday $43million
The Last Jedi Second Weekend:
Friday $24million
Saturday $29million
Sunday $17million
If TLJ was really so great, it wouldn't have plummeted in its second weekend, if Force Awakens was so disappointing to people, and it affected TLJ's box office, we would have seen more than a $27million difference in those opening weekends.
Because if they didn't sell the rights off so cheap and released internationally themselves, it wouldn't matter what it did in the US, a movie doing "so-so" in the US isn't a barrier to a sequel if the profits are there internationally.
Youre quite wrong there.
The Golden Compass did very well, but New Line screwed up.
They presumed the US box office was going to do mega business, and sold off the international rights too cheap.
In the end it did so-so business in the US but did excellent overseas, but New Line didnt get to see any of that because they sold the rights off.
That is why they didnt do a sequel because New Line screwed up, and Warner Bros shut them down because of it.
The box office that was $700MILLION off Force Awakens?