Glad it ended when it did and the show was spared of the whole woke/diversity nonsense that is plaguing so many shows and movies these days. It wasn't until around 2014 that things would really kick into high gear with the woke agenda ruining things. Thankfully it didn't happen and we ended up with one of the greatest TV shows of all time.
I completely agree. It was about 2013 that I started to notice certain shows and movies trying to play it safe. By 2020, it was all over.
Yes, something definitely happened in 2014 that unleashed all this stuff into the mainstream.
Other shows that ended right on time:
Dexter
True Blood
True Blood was very woke — it was just ahead of its time, before wokeness became a defined cultural force. Back then, it still had a certain charm and intrigue. It was woke, but not yet the suffocating, in-your-face ideology that would later dominate everything.
shareWokeness emerged from a confluence of social forces. It had long existed in academia and was beginning to spread throughout culture, but several key factors accelerated its rise. Obama’s administration played a major role by implementing DEI policies in the government, which then spread to other industries. Meanwhile, online spaces — particularly Tumblr — became breeding grounds for this ideology, shaping a generation of teenagers who carried it into every aspect of society.
In this environment, wokeness began to infiltrate Hollywood, influencing films and television as early as 2013–2014. However, it truly gained momentum in 2015 with the Oscars So White controversy. After that, it kicked into high gear and then exploded in 2016 as a reaction to Trump and the alt-right.
2016 was the day of reckoning for wokeness. our society will never be the same again. now men are allowed to compete in the olympics against women. I feel bad for anyone born after 2020.
shareIf you don't like it, you can always go back to your little shack in the Ozarks and drink yourself to death on Moonshine.
shareNobody likes wokeness
shareNaw, YOU don't, Mr Bigot. You got issues that can't be solved hiding under a rock.
shareWhy do you love wokeness?
shareWokeness is a cancer — despised by everyone. At least everyone who matters. Its supporters are irrelevant, their feelings don't matter, their opinions don't matter, and they themselves do not matter. They should be cast out, marginalized, stripped of influence, and turned into the pariahs they deserve to be. Their ideology — along with the entire rotten edifice of woke culture — must be dismantled piece by piece and consigned to the dustbin of history. We need to go back to sanity and bigotry, to build a world where the Wokes and their "anti-racist" diversity pushers have no voice, no rights, and no power — cast out into the wilderness to live in the shadows like rats. Like the vermin they are.
share"Sanity and Bigotry"
shareYes, like it was in the 1950s. That's what we need to go back to, a time of segregation and a no civil rights or equality for minorities. A time when racism and bigotry were accepted as normal. And we lived in patriarchal society where women knew their place. Sanity and Bigotry. Thankfully with Trump now in office, and a right wing Supreme Court, we have begun dismantling affirmative action, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and ultimately civil rights.
shareit's so funny how you fucking retards always bring up ozark as like the obvious idiot show and somehow people who complain about this would love ozark. no, ozark was a woke show. women were way too prominent in it leading everything. the show was idiotic and boring. even without any woke bullshit it would still have been a shit show.
shareFor some reason Better Call Saul survived also. Maybe the groundwork was already done during Breaking Bad.
shareYes that show also avoided it too.
shareWhat ? with Saul's high powered female lawyer partner who was better than him in every way making the little white man look stupid
and the bad guy - Sauls brother , a crusty old white man abusing his power and having a weak ass pretend disease.
So woke man!
They makin us whites look bad!
they trying to replace us!
{blah blah more persecution complex whining etc etc }
Kim was a multidimensional person with weaknesses and her story was touching to follow. This wasn't some Mary Sue who is unrealistically perfect and flawless in every way just because of women's empowerment.
shareBy "woke", do you mean "every movie that doesn't have a white, straight man as the main character"?
shareNo, Blade is not woke, Predator 2 is not woke, etc.
Please try and keep up.
Blade would be woke if you're talking about the 1998 movie.
shareNo, Blade is not woke, Predator 2 is not woke, etc.
Oh you mean the movies you used to like before the internet told you that a monster called Woke was letting black people and women take white mans roles?
how stupid are you to think we just got brainwashed or bandwagoned on this anti woke trend. what do you call it when 90% of the shows coming up has a female lead and often all the males are fucking idiots? it's annoying constantly seeing incompetent men and men deferring to women in stories because you know they wrote it that way on purpose for a political agenda. otherwise you're supposed to write about what you know and what you see in real life. would stories be interesting at all if they werent realistic? even in a fantasy, people walk on earth. there's gravity. people have morals like loyalty. when you write it so a woman is in charge and all the men idiots, it's like having everyone be amoral in a fantasy story. just because there's magic, it doesn't mean removing realistic human interactions is acceptable.
sharesoo . A world where women are not subservient to the men in charge is as alien as a world with no gravity.
you wish that's what i said so you can have an easy lay up. where did i say women had to be subservient to men? you mean a world where most leaders are actually men isn't realistic? there's a big difference between being subservient and following a leader. 99.9% of men are followers too. it just so happens 99.9999% of women are. it's fine to have some stories where women are leaders but not 90% of them and especially not when in that story, every leader is a woman. you read that whole paragraph and picked out that one thing you made up in your own mind so you can be right instead of trying to rebut any of the points i made. think about it for a second, what does that actually say about your own intellectual capabilities and the foundations of what you believe are true? maybe you're actually wrong since you can't rebut anything. a lot of your type only go on this fuzzy feeling of being right and get all emotionally riled up but you can't go through the logical steps to work out those thoughts. you can never know if you're right or not if you can't debate the issue with another person. this is the foundation of western philosophy.
share>how stupid are you to think we just got brainwashed or bandwagoned on this anti woke trend. what do you call it when 90% of the shows coming up has a female lead and often all the males are fucking idiots?
This isn't my experience at all.
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I'd say its the latter tbh. The militant mysogenist bigots have tried explaining it ad infinitum.#
Nobodys listening to the arguments in either direction at this point.
If the OP deigned to explain it would be all the usual buzzwords
Box ticking
Agenda
Propaganda
maybe mix in claims of white guilt and possibly "great replacement"
if presses to elbaorate further will say that Ellen Ripley is not woke just these modern women and claim that all the old favourites they liked before they were brainwashed get a pass because they are "well written"
I see the op went with Wes Snipes & Danny Glover in this case.
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I see you've pre-defeated (read:mentioned) all of the arguments people make that definitively prove blacks and women can be beloved franchise leads
Hardly , my point is that blacks and women can be beloved franchise leads.
and that writing off all the ones post Ripley & Blade as "not well written" is ludicrous.
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Ah well , you do your thing and I'll do mine.
I'm able to watch the new movies without getting all outraged and boycotting them and ranting about "woke!!" on forums , and as you say - you're free to do that , just doesn't sound like much of a good time to me .
I just enjoy the movies
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you're so fucking biased that you explained the crux of the problem but can't even see it yourself. assuming misogyny then refusing to listen to arguments and assuming you're automatically right. criticizing women doesnt have anything to do with misogyny. try using rational arguments for once.
shareWhat are you talking about? The woke nonsense went mainstream BEFORE Breaking Bad aired; when Hattie McDaniel won an Academy Award.
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if this show was made today, walt would've been a white woman. jesse a black woman. gus would be a chilean woman. hank would be a woman. salamanca a woman. etc etc. oh wait it would've been cancelled before female gus ever showed up because the show would've been dogshit.
shareYes, the approach to writing the show and its characters would be totally different today. As would any classic film or series, which is why things made prior to the woke age should be preserved and cherished, as you will never see that quality again.
shareIf this had kept being made until now it would turn out that Skyler was the mastermind all along and Walt would become her little neutered sidekick.
Also they would hire a young-ish POC female whose eyes are bizarrely far apart to be a girlboss in some capacity.
Then, due to terrible writing because of hiring staff based on their ethnicity and gender instead of their actual talent, when everyone says "Breaking Bad sucks now" they'd call us racist misogynist man-babies.