What are incels and also are they necessarily bad people?
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That’s because all us straight guys are jealous of your fabulousness.
Seriously though, do you think there’ll ever be an end to it? Here in the UK, no-one really bats an eyelid anymore (apart from the odd knuckle dragger).
its probly the same in most western countries IRL, the internet just amplifies the knuckle dragger factor
shareSweet talker 😏
Yeah, IRL I find that people are pretty cool generally. I’m lucky to have faced very few instances of outright bigotry in my day to day. That’s not to say I haven’t heard horror stories from friends, but personally I find that society in general is pretty accepting these days.
Hence why it’s so fucked up to see the amount of venom spat out here towards LGBT people on the reg. I came here initially for the same reason I assume most do, because I’m a movie lover who loves discussing movies. I’m in no way a social warrior but I’m also not a coward who can back down or acquiesce when I see blatantly bigoted, factually incorrect bullshit being flung by bullies who think an open forum means a free pass for hate speech. Hence I find myself often on the defensive when all I really want to do is chat about movies, like the name of this site suggests I should be able to. I can imagine a person of colour or even a woman might feel the same way when I see countless disrespectful threads about them too. And the moment you stand up to them you’re labeled “woke”, like not being a prejudiced ass-clown means you must be part of some nefarious movement trying to brainwash society. Jesus H Christ on a bike!!!
I’m getting a BIT better at ignoring it, but yeah, some days it’s a lot!
Equally fun and interesting is when some one discusses, let's say women, with real facts and statistics that some don't like, the poster is slammed and labeled a woman hater. Why are facts considered hate talk? That is very unreasonable.
shareExample?
shareI posted a rational logical video of a feminist shooting her feet off, and that means ima woman hater. Not even remotely true. Just stating simple facts like "more women file divorce than men", stating well known, easily findable facts, people think it's a knock on women. It's not. It's just how things are. I've posted many real facts about relationships, so that means I hate women or am incel or something. They are internet strangers so they mean nothing to me, but it is a questionable reaction to real life truths, that should cause people to pause. People react strangely to truth. It's really becoming a problem in the world.
shareEveryone needs to bust his nut. When you don't you act like an asshole.
shareJust use the hand.
shareThe corollary is that you have to bust someone else's nut too. Nothing more healthy than watching some broad stumble into the wall because she can't walk her thighs are so wrecked.
shareNot everyone is a sexual prowess man. Some just nuts in 2 secs. Different people do different things. One is not necessarily better than the other.
Sex is for procreations first and foremost, other side effects are just luxury.
Involuntary celibates are guys who are having difficulties meeting women and hanging out on message boards complaining about women. I don't think they are bad people since it's not unusual to have relationship troubles. I just got a little mad when the US Secret Service put out a report identifying incels as a terrorism threat. I don't want the government running covert surveillance on sexually frustrated males posting on message boards since there are bigger threats to the nation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/4/16/18287446/incel-definition-reddit
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Well, some of them might be dangerous.
But I would say that most of them aren't terrorists.
As a general thing, my understanding is that the mostly harmless people in the online incel communities bring out the worst in each other, in a disturbing way. Many of them are just regular guys, a bit shy and nerdy, but who'd be fine if they'd learn a few basic social skills and engage in a bit of grooming. Others need more help, they may be on the autism spectrum or have issues that could improve a lot if they were discussed with the right licensed professional, some are so deep in the closet that Mr. Tumnus is begging the White Witch to come and get them out of his cave, and a few might be real psychos.
The thing is, that when they get together they don't urge each other to seek professional help, or to learn basic personal grooming, social skills, or anything else that'd help them appeal to real-life sexual partners, they tell each other that women are evil and that "nice guys" like themselves have no chance, and that they should live lives of anger and despair and futile rage against attractive women, and maybe end it all in a mass shooting. The thing is... a couple of these guys actually gone through with the mass murders, and probably a fair amount of stalking and threats. In my area, it was Elliot Rodgers killing 6 people and himself, and that's why the FBI is expressing an interest in these guys.
It looks like Elliot Rodger had been taking meds since he was fifteen. He was going to therapy and the doctors recommended a residential treatment center. He apparently stabbed his three roommates to death before his shooting rampage so he should have been committed. He was taking xanax and that can lead to psychosis/violence. I think there needs to be a way for the government to get the crazy people in mental institutions BEFORE they kill somebody.
https://www.independent.com/2015/02/20/elliot-rodger-report-details-long-struggle-mental-illness/
https://www.addictioncenter.com/benzodiazepines/xanax/symptoms-signs/
It's irresponsible to label all incels as dangerous when it's not unusual for young men to gripe about a lack of sex/love. It reminds me of Don Lemon incorrectly labeling conservative white males as the greatest domestic terrorist threat. It is usually men from all backgrounds who start shooting at people but a few women have gotten involved.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/11/01/cnn-don-lemon-comment-white-men/1843131002/
https://www.insideedition.com/women-who-kill-americas-most-shocking-female-mass-shooters-42142
I haven't seen anyone specifically advocating violence against fellow citizens on an incel board myself. But if people are advocating violence there, or in white nationalis groups or any other group, the FBI damn well out to have a look.
Aa for Incels, I described them as varied and mostly harmless above. Touchy, aren't you!
We refer to ourselves as Dungeon Masters. :-)
shareDamn right!
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I have a wisdom score of 19 right here.
shareMan, we loved D&D growing up!
We had the pewter figurines, little cardboard tunnel and castle walls, crazy maps we’d draw up during classes at school when we were supposed to be studying😄
This was all during the early 80’s ‘Satanic Panic’ era and Metal was the music of choice so we had to be quiet around the folks about all of it!
Wow! You kept it a secret! Lol that satanic panic era was so absurd.
shareI still have my modules, dice and Dungeon Master Guides 35 years later:)
Oh, I could have been transporting drugs and guns across state lines during those days, my parents were going through a bad time, I got away with everything back then and I had two Christmases and Birthday parties👍
It was best to keep Metal and D&D away from my parents though!
It’s good that you kept them! I unfortunately only have a few modules and the DM guide left. My complete Conan collection I also sold to a relative in my 20’s. 😔
shareYeah, sometimes I wish we all still played, those were the great, Nerdy, mysterious times of our lives lol
The foreclosed houses on the blocks were ‘haunted’ (we went into several looking for some Scooby-Doo adventures!) exploring the back end of the spooky wooded park with an air pistol and reading Lovecraft and war gaming was fun stuff…I was sort of goofy when I was a kid🙃
That’s not goofy. That’s how kids are supposed to grow up. 👍
shareThat sounds awesome!
I am fortunate enough to be in a AD&D campaign with old friends right now. We've been at it for going on 4 years now (5?) and we are using a combo of 1st and 2nd edition. So all of our old books are out: Player's Handbook, DM's guide, Deities and Demigods (worth $$), Monster Manual, and Fiend Folio. 5 hours, pile of dice, pile of joints, stacks of maps, every three weeks. And now, just as back then, someone always goes off on their own, making the party wait on their fucking "mini adventure" to play out.
That sounds really fun, I wish we still did D&D adventures over here, it’s all a bit silly but very fun👍
My
Brother in law and I tried to start a play group but nobody wanted in:/
We don't feel silly doing it. We aren't doing voices nor wearing wizard hats (well, our DM does some voices for certain NPCs). We are just kicking ass and feeling like conquering warriors ... and totally unaware of how silly we look.
Our party (now 5 players) is around level 11 and currently adventuring in the Elemental plane of Earth (had to use Oil of Etherealnesss to pass through leagues of solid rock before finding the huge cavern we sought). We're chasing a Chinese demon we accidentally released a few months ago.
I like to hear all that, it is a great game
shareBy the way, don't you find it a little odd and also morbidly fascinating that in here, almost no one so much as said "yes I think that overall they are bad" or "no, they're not all bad at least not all and not necessarily", and what does this say not only about human nature but matter of incels and other related matters? (Officially guilty offenders here or there, as a result or not etc, not withstanding.)
shareMaybe because we all know dating and sex is systemically rigged against unless you are among the top 20 percent. Women are valued as sexual beings and control sex as a commodity.
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