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The 'abandonment' was actually briefly explained in the beginning.... but even that made no sense.
After the big fight which the Na'vi won at the End of Avatar 1, those remaining humans who weren't killed were mostly sent back home to Earth; WHERE THEY BELONG ONLY! So far so good logical.
However (somehow [idiotically]) there are also still humans tolerated around in that planted military/science colony instead of burning it all down.
It was actually narrated that a baby born on Pandora couldn't be sent back in those transfer bubbles to survive the long space travel, so Spider had no chance/choice going back. Mother either returning to Earth without her baby as a Single Parent or is dead like father Quaritch.... we must assume by here! Quite ridiculous to assume human shitass brats aged 0-5 would survive in that foreign environment with oxygen survival mask n all without a (adopting) parent looking after him each 2 seconds! Alright but even if you can accept the screen writing until here.
BUT now it gets totally contractory ridiculous which insults your intelligence!
We were shown very few (not even hundreds!) space-ships arriving, scaring the shit out of Jake, Neytiri and entire Tribe. Not even knowing a Quaritch Avatar Resurrection was on board! This assuming for pretty much at least a decade (due to brats' age! Esp. Spider if Avatar brats develop faster!) there was no more human settlement AT ALL!
Next shot we this huge full operating Military Base Colony with a gazillion of ppl knowing each step they do plus a highly respected female General running stuff tight there and in full control. Granted by Quaritch's arrival saluting her in honor without even badmouthing behind her back/trying to gain her rank for himself.
Those 2 totally colliding story-telling angles made no sense AT ALL! The General Authority/That Colony must have been constant progress over many years. The normal usual human invasion.
If Spider rather wanted to live at the Na'vi tribe could have been done like with Jake or that Sigourney Weaver brat Kiddy, Kirby, whatever... - everyone spelling her different! If not he would have been way more integrated in his human colony! How can an entire military-science colony just not care about that kid around, presumably first-born (only born) Pandora Baby?! Running back n forth 'with the Enemy'? He was a Golden Key even way before Quaritch arrived. A/That General wasn't dumb!!! Most dumb to portray Quaritch needing to capture him and he gets brutally tortured to reveal a bit of Navi infrastructure! Like WTF?! As if he wouldn't daily clown around the human colony to re-gain oxygen n all! As if a 6, 9 ,13 yrs old wouldn't have done Blablablablablah his daily adventures all the time by himself for all those years! And most basic info they want out of Spider was known latest with the Big Battle in Avatar 1. Also with everything Dr Grace and her Science Division had done in re-search.
So yeah whenever seeing that Lil Pisser automatic brain-aches throughout the entire movie: "WHO THE HECK WOULD EVEN BE YOUR MOTHER?!" Dr Grace or Unknown Female Soldier - both totally unrealistic! They go for an angle in Avatar 6 that Quaritch raped Dr. Grace for a PG-13 movie.... yeah! Nothing off limits by now!
Spiders actions were as trash egoistical as typical human. Best visibly during entire lenghty Whale Murder trying absolutely NOTHING before days later morphing into Superspiderman taking on an entire war ship with a 100 soldiers on board! Saving his satanic Avatar-Father was upmost psycho trash moment! Just for another needless Avatar 3-8 sequels! Avatar 2 was already pointless other than a cheap cash grab from a degenerated 21st Trash Millenial Youth, totally corrupted by media!
Yes in reality it is horrendous!
Reality is horrendous!
7 billion overpopulation and 4 billion are teletubby-retarded Trash Millenials! Earth could be paradise if everyone started in his own mirror instead of stupid herd mentality. Who needs dumb kids to constantly look after?!?? For about TWENTY (!!!) years instead of 6-9 weeks like most superior species! Nothing positive on CHILD MADNESS! Zero. Nada. Least for one own. But the Biggest Picture of Mother Earth/Natural Balance is indiscussable!
Those fictional brats sucked over the top. Surely it was cringe! Just another Eeeewwww!
The original Na'vi Portrayal was elaborate and wise. Way beyond our elite as portrayed with Dr. Grace! They should have stuck to that pattern and not incorporate retarded human children behaviour. Dull Jake may be the Father, but they are raised in Na'vi Surroundings by entire tribe. The lenghty mobbing was almost unbearable and a insult for each adult with at least even average IQ.
Trash Millenial youth have no role models. Heck they ever cheered for Shitney Spears as if she was Michael Jackson & Prince & Whitney Houston combined! We don't even get started on Tschassdin Weeeener and Kim Asshole. This movie feeds into their ongoing degeneration. On way more levels than plain in sight. Dumbest generation of all Times will make sure on WW3. Destroying 5000 yrs of progress. Back to stone-age. A bit natural tribe like just without all the fancy stuff and real spirit/IQ.
Be glad for EVERY Minute on a good movie! Esp. by those ticket prices!
Why are most movies nowadays just 90-110 minutes? Weak sloppy work ethic! Trash Millenials!
For most movies ppl want everything explained in each and every detail instead using a bit of own imagination and be creative for own pleasure. Just look the need for Movie Boards Discussion. 95% ppl ask dumb questions which were even answered in the movie or at least strongly hinted! Ppl still watch Grey's Anatomy... what Season 14?! A Football Game? A Book? What's the problem watching a movie for 3, 4 or 5 hours?!
I'm forever grateful what Kevin Costner did on the brink of his own personal bankruptcy not pressing/rushing Dances With Wolves in 108 minutes 'standard'! The pressure from the Hollyweird Studios must have been unbelievable.
On this note: Yeah Avatar 1 is totally overrated. It was just an OK movie. Should be somewhere in the big mid-range field in the Encyclopedia of All Movies Ever Made. Avatar 2 is way worse. Same movie. Just in turqouise. If you liked that wimp Jake (wooden Worthington), he's an even bigger wimp with a bunch of brats. The plot-poor movie wouldn't be any better in 90 mins. There are nice turqouise shots as eye-candy. The water animals are the best sub-plot aspect of this movie.
For truly enjoying the natural landscape the TV screen is to small. Story-wise it's not worth an addtl cinema dollar.
People fall for hype just cuz there's hype. No own free will.
Watch the big reveal of her father will be Quarritch in approx. Avatar 6, 203X. After Spider dies Quarritch, we and a whole bunch of others will find out Kiddy, Kirby, whatever is his daughter! Therefore she will ultimately save Pandora from any further human invasion FOR GOOD!
Quarritch will therefore ultimately see the light and will in the end destroy the human colony! Returning to Earth reporting to government that Pandora is not conquerable. Earth Population will change it's ways in role model living by the Na'vi.
There I predicted it in January 2023 if the fictional story-telling will continue to be this lame.
Is this the SAME James Cameron CREATING the genius groundbreaking unique flick Terminator 1 & 2?!!! OK Titanic was limited story-wise to Based on a True Event plus there were already multiple good movies produced to fully appreciate his just another version. In colour. With overblown focus Romeo DiCaprio and Juliet Winselt.
The way bigger mystery is who the heck could even be Spider's mother? There were no significant females in the early colonization days aka Avatar 1 - OF COURSE! Dr. Grace as unique biologist scientist expert is believable but the rest were of course Marines to primarily conquer. Only best soldiers to be selected on hard survival modus. Which women would volunteer to fight superior Aliens on Mars as Pioneers? Which women would get herself in the situation to be pregnant/give birth/raise a child in such a environment where you would be dead after 10 seconds when your breathing mask fails for numerous reasons. Just imagine our degenerated Teletubby brats!!! Doing nothing but dumb retarded shit for at very least 16 yrs. Which highly intellectual woman with a grande mission would want to look nearly each second after a unneccesary brat?
Each time that lil pisser Spider had a scene this was all I could think about. How unrealistic! Whom they wanna present as mother we never got introduced in Avatar 1? Dr. Grace would be just as Lame as an yet Unknown Woman. Lame Lame Lame!
It's called milking out Audience Money!
It's Größenwahn to announce after the Success of Avatar 1 that there will be 4 (6?) sequels and past months I heard increasing numbers 6 (8?). Sometimes it's got reported it was calculated from start to have several prequels depending how well the movie will do.
Has that ever been done before marketing-wise? I never heard of such Narcissism movie-wise? Maybe on 21st Hollyweird Marvel Supershit Puberty Movies.
I only paid for Avatar 1 and that was before the Total Overblown Hype started. I'm not often at the Movies and it was a lucky unknown pick then in it's first week. Had not heard anything of it before but had the best short descritption of all 8 running movies that day.
If the 21st Teletubby audience is that retarded to swallow, then let them have their crap!
How many good movies were made in the 80s/90 with a budget of very few millions with a real intriguing plot, charming actors and clever dialogue instead of soulless, lame digital crap!
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If using fantasy names make them memorable. It was no problem with Neytiri. They should have used variations of 'Ney-' and then smth. Easy spelling. Easy recognizing. Ney-Ray would have worked - without or with a subtle 2 second mentioning that Jake's father/brother was named Ray.
Which adult wants to see mobbing teenagers to that dragged extend?! I knew smth like a shark would be appearing seconds before that sharkie thingie appeared. The Sea Clan I liked overall better than the Tree Clan. What's next? Fire Clan... Earth Clan.... Cloud Clan??? (Warrior Cats... anyone)?!??
But Sea-Kids were even worse! Ridiculous compared to such spiritual lifestyle! Should have at least man'ed up in private to their Chief Clan Dad when Tooth Kid took the sole blame almost being eaten by a shark. Made no sense either if they can tame and submit dangerous animals like dragons. First I thought their Sea-Rides were the equivalent of sharks. Well.
CHILD MADNESS DISEASE... I will never get how most people choose own worst LIFE-destroying Googoo-Dadaaah bullshit without being held a gun to their forehead! 7 billion overpopulation, animal extinction, endless wars and ultimately invading other planets. Hopefully Trash Millenials will at very least seek out some inspiration watching those god-awful brats in the merciless mirror to practise safest sex possible! Well PLUS THE 'human' HUNTING CRUELTY / Animal Torture aspect! Other than that a waste of Hollyweird Budget!
P.S.: Spider was visually the best looking character. To bad his character was full trash as well!!! Lil Pisser! Whenever a scene came up with him I always automatically thought Who the hell would even be his Mother? Colonel doesn't look like a affair guy. Women on Pandora in early days?
Watch they will make Kiddy, Kirby whatever also his biological sperm daughter as the big reveal in upcoming Avatar 6-8! There I said it in January 2023! Predictable shit! This will develop worse than Terminator. But it'll be done as dumb General Audience pays for everything propaganda instructs them.
I'm def out of Avatar! Only paid for Avatar 1 and def not for any more! I paid for Puss in Boots 2 actually yesterday. Avatar 2 was the bonus afterwards. Go support Puss in Boots 2. A worthy sequel.
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I loathed those kids. Generally I loathe brats but having to put up with 4 for 3 straight hours makes your head vomit!
The Original Avatar was a surprise cinema visit. It was OK. Not justified the media hype that followed soon after.
I wanted to watch the Sequel as it was that long worked on for anticipation fuzz and I liked the idea of a Water World and how great it would look like... allegedly by propaganda.
Usually I don't spoil myself movies. I had no idea it was mainly about Jake's bunch of puberty kids. Worse than a kid is a kid interacting with kids in their retarded Teletubby language. "Bro...!" I was about to smack 'em dead in telepathy! I was really happy when one died! Hope he stays dead! But I highly doubt that I will watch any further Avatar sequels. Movie didn't progress much at all besides the introduction of another 'race' of Na'vi. (Well and those Trash Kids noone needed... just like our Trash Millenials!)
Movie started and got advertised by James Cameron even years ago with Quarritch Resurrection as Second Effort to invade huge parts of Pandora but turned out it was merely only Personal Revenge plus a new robbery-focus on 1 (?) whaling ship that no Na'vi ever noticed before?! Those whales have that close bond with the Na'vi and not telling them their unnatural violent threat, rather isolating their own calb who just lost his mother for trying to desperately fight back that foreign enemy in group power? We later see what 1 adult whale by his body size could do. Imagine 20-30! Whales also know how to create waves/rough sea in group dynamic! Making zero sense!
Back to humans showing the progressed colony (setting up new buildings and technical progress) under now even a General instead of 'just' a Colonel as highest present Authority. So why were the Tree Na'vi so surprised when they spotted new Starships landings as if they hadn't seen in 12 yrs? It must have been constant exchange back and forth in all those years. Surely increasing over the years. It would have been just easy to portray that one huge arrival with the General along with the Colonel and a few thousands more after many years of absense.But no. Quarritch was truly only out getting Jake and not gaining land. Na'vi defended before Jake their territory. I have had always the biggest issue with this wimp being the Hero Leader. Turning utter ridiculous. Jake just cowardly running away - while doing so - only buying human invaders more and more time arriving in legions... after everything that happened in Avatar 1?!?? Ridiculous! In the beginning I was hoping for a better plot or at very least way better dialogue. Sure sealed in stone it would be the same lame conquest-story outcome. Good ppl win over the bad ppl.
The best part of the movie was the Friendship of the Sea Na'vi with the Sea Animals. The whaling scenes was the only worthy powerful sub-plot and it was almost unbearable to watch the EXTEEEEENDED hunting scene. But I do hope it fits it purpose for the dumb common audience to re-sonsider treating animals way better. Esp obese eating 'choices' and what hell we have created for farm animals switching from 95-5% vegetarian-meat omni-diet 180 around!
The rest of the storyline is basically like Avatar with endless fight scenes! (How many times were all those friggin kids captured and how badly protected by a hundred soldiers on deck for just easily untieing them over and over again - even by other young kids?) Traumatically overdone it just pisses you off. THAT entire movie could have been told in 45 minutes, still focusing 30 mins on Waterworld Introduction. Everyone who claims they loved anything but the blue-green water scenery is lying to themselves and all around. For planning 6 or 8 movies while producing 10 years THIS.. TRASH (there - I said it!) ... this hopefully will backfire BADLY!
Back to the kids. I quickly figured out that the main plot son is wearing a tooth around his neck. And that Sigorney Weaver Kid was the one Tree Na'vi clearly recognizeable by hair/face/- looks plus constant behaviour. But up to 8/10 of the movie I couldn't get her name (all their names actually!). Sometimes she was called Kiddy, then Kirby, then whatever.... while now reading online it was intended to be Kiri! Really?!??
I did mix up oldest son with Jake and vice versa in a few scenes thou. It didn't even matter. Didn't really like anyone from the bunch but Neytiri.
Yes Valentine got the biggest objective picture which most egoistical steerage can't fathom!
Factual Ticker of Horror: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
We are extincting our Animal Kingdom! The Black Rhino was the last prominent to got fully extinct. By 2050 even most prominent species like Giraffes, Elephants, Tigers, Gorillas will be gone. Extinct forever. With what right are we taking up all space for dumb kids?! Cats are superior and able to survive after 6 weeks. Trash Millenials hang on BFF Mama's skirt up til 30.... and beyond! 🗑️ 💩
1 Billion Human Population is Natural Balance and should have been politically regulated since decades instead of going totally bonkers over the flu! This is knowledge at least since mid 80s when I was a kid and population was 4.5 Billion. Worst unnecessary generation ever born and even after abortion rights women fought so desperate and hard for thousands of years from Mother Slavery Doom! Throwing away your best years for Teletubby talk and pissed pants!
News Flash: Everyone will die anyway.
What is 50, 60, 70 yrs anyways in the blink of the universe? No-one knowing anyone beyond their grandparents in the 18th, 15th, 12th century and what they contributed positively to earth instead of struggling to survive with way to many kids inheriting the same destiny. It's only 1% on the IQ Pyramid that matters beyond: Working some minor shit, Sleeping, Eating, Fucking, Letting Them Be Entertained.. on endless repeat!
And for the worst kin, a total retarded youth of 4 billion sheer most massive OVERpopulation we are exploiding this Wonder of a Perfect Planet! Elites should have just done without Hollywood Prophecy as with many massive stunts! I know Trash Millenials had camped outside for some damn free calls while I wouldn't have even given a fukk. Nothing is free at all. I hardly carry mobile phones / spionage device around anyway, just for mainly obscurity anyway like checking out Kim Asshole on the minute!