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WoW this woman was put in a impossible position. As an aspiring actress having to sleep with that dirty old man Hempf just to continue her passion and talent is already sucking life out of your soul! As portrayed in pill addiction!
But what Stasi did on top is unimaginable just because her Director/BF is Doing a Little Something. JUST an Article. Ratting out like school kids in no real need is no comparison to Stasi Jail. The desperation on her face is well acted 'to get'. We don't know how many hours she refused a testimony. Maybe 48 already. Dreyman mentioned she is gone unknown for days shortly before returning. Beginning of movie is explained how they psychological break people to gain the information they want when first refusing. The surrogate interviews are really clever build up. Anyone would have. And that was actual real life. No fiction. Most all had IM status. Everyone spying on everyone. Some took it more serious than others of course, just wanting out of jail in the first place! That was the real terror. Friends, colleagues, neighbors no-one can be trusted with thoughts.
Most important for police is always to find the actual weapon. Without it making each case severely weaker. It is like that technically legally. Accept it! OJs alleged glove didn't fit his hand. Of course hands can swell with fly stitches (/artificial injections), working out with Hand-Trainers e.g..... but the bloody gloves didn't fit. Soo...
As long as they don't find the unregistered typewriter matching article letters font found in his (hidden) possession there is to weak proof for a real court case. It's just Words by another Person with no real proof. Accusation vs Accusation. He is a public person. Not just in DDR but at very least of significance in BRD, latest by his article. This makes him a 100% Proof-Case or 0 not at all.
Of course Stasi would have kept on surveilling him for the rest of his life if the Wall hadn't come down short after.
You should have a real deep thought what Wiesler did.... for approx 20 yrs!
Even if you have zero knowledge what everyday life in DDR meant it's clearly shown in first few minutes. Wiesler was one of worst. HE training new recruits even dirty tricks of psychology torture.
They threw innocent ppl in jail for years, ruined careers of family e.g. just for not praising Socialism and staying submissive to a small Socialist Clique benefitting!
That art couple gave him for the first time in life an escapism in his grey, dull life! Usually this happens at the age of 8-12 with music, foremost later movies, books, theater! World Art was banned in DDR! It was not portrayed full front on like Black Swan but you get the drift on a 1.5 million budget!
Weasel Wiesler only belonged in their own Stasi Jail holes! Not to be compared with G7 luxury jails including Gyms, Courts, TVs, PlayStations, Libraries & Co.!
For Wiesler to gain a minimum of sympathy he shall have died in a scenario saving the Actress, who was the biggest victim!
He didn't even deserve that dedication. It was most stupid scene ruining movie Dreyman meeting positively Former Culture Minister just to finally get he was observed for years prior the 2 raids! Like WTF! Hence his adored Actress Girlfriend plus Mentor Friend committing suicide due to these Socialist Career Assholes!
If Dreyman didn't even got that after years, impossible he knew the real circumstances/intentions of the ppl surveilling him. It could only be hourly and they were not present when certain sentences got exchanged. Fallen asleep more than once in this dull concentrating.
Just despise on a personal level at his (new) Supervisor to not even get the next unjustified promotion. Nothing is known to Dreyman why he wasn't fully exposed. It could have been just lucky circumstances zero to do with him actually. But he clearly knows these guys robbed him plus the world of his 2 most precious people in life. So the dedication stinks ass. 🦨
It's a daring story that needs to be told!
90% Hollyweird movies are all the same. A regular guy gets in a situation fights a thousand bad guys and therefore automatically gets the prettiest woman of the country. *yaaaaawn*
It's a shame how much DDR injustice got swept under the rug. Honecker was granted Luxury Asyl in Chile, and that's it. The terror which was inflicted on 20 million 'regular dudes' was real life! The movie is grey, dull and depressing as it should!
You don't need to be German to take a good look. Socialist Propaganda is on the rise everywhere... all while Socialist States are pure hell holes! Without an exception!
Last but not least:
Utter remarkable for a young film-makers first project on a 1.5 million budget. Only similar achievement: Blair Witch Project.
And this topic to see the light you have no idea how many obstacles from government.
So if you wanna watch Spiderman or Transformers go ahead and do so. But movies like that are way more satisfying and necessary for real brains! Of course you shall be in the mood for and not on Spaghetti In House Date Night with a new Romance. Romantic Comedies are a thing as well as Political Thrillers/Historic Dramas without a million gun shot chases. Pathetic actually.
Very subliminal. Very artsy.
A low budget film has it's limits. Plus it's a fictional story. Contrary no Socialist (SED nor Stasi) real life case is known. You know afterwards ppl wanna be the celebrated media heroes. Yet silence. Look at today's Left-Wing Brood, it's the worst doctrine. PPL running ahead for that ideology have no righteous life, no sense for common normalcy nor justice. Very own gain is all. Even Wiesner is on the low-key pissed his old mate he backpacked throu study grades got promoted ahead of him.
Weasel Wiesner should have died instead the poor Actress being worst off of all.
I found it hard to believe as well with the introduction of the movie and how he wrecked innocent ppl lives for approx. 20 years!
Encounter with a young boy in an elevator where multiple Stasi Agents lived as the prostitute revealed. And citizens around are so aware openly talking about them that even kids repeat. Using kids to expose parents was a well known basic tactic he also had to teach new recruits. And since parents knew they were very cautious with their kids. This scene would have never happened in 80ies, maybe 60ies!
The art talk wasn't all that. I was expecting way different for such a dramatic change of mind-set.
He got insight on true love in mid mid-/late 40ies. Yes but I'm sure they had not just preferred access on prostitutes but first and foremost fitting women for marriage. After all no woman seeks a career in prostitution but wanting to have a good status man and family. Portraying these dudes as single meaning woman opposite also staying single. Not accurate in 80ies, esp socialist countries! This society trend just started earliest in 90ies with ppl having way to high expectations on media stars. And then Internet searching forever for Miss Perfect.
The only 'plot hole' was the weird scene of Minister Hempf in a German theater after Unification. Yes sadly it was like that: basically no-one paid for their terrorizing and destroying thousands of innocent citizens. Not even Honecker!
But the convo was so weird Dreyman initiating as if they were positive friends despite him being responsible for his real good friend/artistic hero committing suicide! Plus forcing his girlfriend to fuck him for her on-going career. Ultimately her death as well; putting her in a shameful position she can no longer enjoy life.
Surely, IF... there would have been negative accusations and he is no more welcome to his theater productions!
But just asking why he was never observed is DULL! After Stasi physically searched his appartment in his presence it should have dawned him he got surveilled for weeks, possibly months ahead of this raid! But TWICE plus his girlfriend (he adored so much!) rather dying in shame after she had to confess the secret typewriter!
Sure he had no insights what all was specifically going on... but after these massive Incidents how could he even ask him that ridiculous question? And was he really expecting a honest answer? Least I had expected! It wasn't even protecting cover for pokering knowledge out of the former minister. He was really truly surprised! Like WTF?!!
ABSOLUTELY should have dedicated his book to his girlfriend and not a total unknown Stasi Officer, having no idea how much he really hid on purpose. He could have been only partially surveillanced or way more than 2 dudes put up on him not really connecting the dots of art talk. Or falling asleep more than once in hours of such boredom! While his girlfriend paid the ultimate price for just pursuing the art of acting in a shit-ass Patriarchat, Socialist on top! All these Stasi dudes were well off. Even working as mailman afterwards sniffing their nose further on in other ppl private business! Wiesner was not a good man. Weasel pun intended.
Just seen the movie first time. Movie sure got it's weaknesses for usual light evening entertainment but the questions you post the movie answers itself just by watching once with attention! Also other posters explained already.
Besides I also take a movie for what it is. A story needs to be told. The point of the movie came across. Dull grey Socialist Terror State which tolerates no other opinion than Left-Wing Propaganda!
The young filmmaker came fresh off University and had a budget of 1.5 million. That is NOTHING! He won established actors for that movie project, who were willing to take on these roles for much less than their market price. Because they felt it was important that this movie sees the light of day and general audience gets some education on this swept-under-rug historical topic!
The only other movie under such circumstances to slightly compare is "Blair Witch Project"!
This is as raw as it gets! Bigger accolades than 90% Hollyweird rubbish on 100+ million budgets and marketing behind for artificial success!
I didn't like the end much as Wiesler never came across likeable. He is a ass-kissing slime-ball weak type of male I loathe to death! His change is not relatable just listening to a couple everyday chatter after all these years doing way worse things like seen in the beginning. Constantly throwing ppl in jail, breaking ppl souls merciless interviews just for having a different opinion or making one jokes on a socialist leader. Yes I know that particular case was his Supervisor. But him as well would have acted so on streets. It was well portrayed he was the force on Stasi career when they were younger recruits. Charmers and Good-Lookers climb ranks. And Wiesler had zero.
LMAO you def need a lesson in hierarchy!
No-one follows 1000s of personal wishes of personal beliefs of 25.000 little service woman as billionaire CEO.
How many people worked on that film? And just as much personal opinions!
There was nada about such a line. I would say it myself for just a cent! It's a pure small talk line to be aware of weirdo freaks. In normal times before every odd one out thinks he's the Common King and the world revolves around him! The smallest minority of Trannies are highly agressive in appearance and shoving their beliefs onto everyone else. That's why I personally dislike them. There is zero decency towards them. I don't like ppl like that no matter whom they share their own personal bed with! I couldn't care less.
No normal woman including Rosie O'Donnell would overdress in Pervert High Heels and Titty/Ass Silicone like that. If they want to be a woman wear female Sneakers and Yoga Pants instead of that Tranny Leather Latex Darkroom Crap! It's a Travesty in the Name of Women what these oversexualized Males do - PUBLICALLY!
The day they demand to enter female rest-rooms is the day when normal Lesbians like me have zero tolerance!
No law can make me clap for that addtl thread towards real women! And for whatever many reasons most ppl rather distance from that folk.
Yes somewhat the movie isn't build up right.
It's unrelateable. Her actions are not wise. Walter was the way better man. Victoria got treated horrible and she was def. not!
Main problem however are a) that horrid nasty Trash Millenial Jonah and b) his father letting him be so spoiled antiauthorian! They are not likeable and the antagonists of the movie!
In Annie's shoes it's like she has a 13 yrs old Boyband crush. They portray mid 30 yrs old women like if they hadn't prior love life experience with good for nothing men. Labeled desperate to marry over 40 but then throwing a real good man like Walter away for a teenage projection of a total unknown male.
The movie fits no cliches which we despise so much. But seeing that I rather take the cliche movie.
The radio call was in no way portrayed for 2000 women writing an unknown man far away. That kid was highly annoying and self-absorbed from start and it grew ever worse with every second Screen-Time! Frankly no elementary school kid would want any other new woman around. Also esp that age not other sex classmates as his one only friend in 1 1/2 yrs adjusting to a new neighborhood. The babysitter was the icing on top how unsympathetic this Father-Son duo actually is. From all the tales of women in office about their lousy husbands Sam would be the crown.
She thinks Walter sounded to old but biblic old-ass names like Samuel and Jonah not?! And she couldn't come up with her very own nick-name? LOUSY back firing she is even lamer with her lame Anne/Annie name! What Annie had to offer but a rather pretty face? Rotten on the inside!
Sam's only likeability is due to the situation about his early unexpected loss. That is all about him. The situation. Not him. I didn't see nothing but huge alarm-clocks about him talking utter shit and nonsense, worst with his spoiled brat baggage! Def no rockstar artist aura nor brains/talents!
I loathed that brat!
The main reason this movie is unrelateable and unlikeable.
However a elementary school kid is mainly the more raw, not so much lying reflection of the parents. Plus anti-authorian raising led to the Trash Millennials Catastrophic Society!
I would have smacked that kid a dozen times in those 90 minutes. The sex talk was as 🤢🤮 as a mirror reflection as Sam and Jonah are!
No babysitter else wanted to put up with... but a gothic psycho freak minding strictly TV for few dollars ignoring the screaming. There were so many aspects why Sam and Jonah were the unlikeable antagonists. A anti feel good movie portraying how bad ppl win in the end in a rotten society now.
Walter and Victoria were the way more likeable characters and got screwed over for nothing. For all Annie judged Walter under a microscope, she would have several break downs a day with the Sam & Jonah combo. The situation was utter pathetic when she gave back her engagement ring. She should have met just the spoiled nasty kid acting up again being mean to the other women there without knowing who he was and later finding out when Sam appeared. Backing totally off ending up alone for playing Walter like that like a 13 yrs old admiring far away Boyband Members.
The entire idea was crap. What's romantic for 2 strangers standing on top of a windy cold Skyscraper for them to fall head over heels in love?!
Even if it was based on a real old movie - like WTF!
Also the expectation of Jonah flying there when there was no Rendezvous set up at all. That kid was horrendous to bear. A real pledoyer why kids need to be raised authorian! Trash MiIllenial Overpopulation Scum! 🗑️ 💩
However it was filmed that Jonah went there in the morning and it was not filmed that he just went up with zero wait in line. That's as little the deal as late in the evening when closing hour actually just passed. So of course there was no line anymore. That's the least about the movie that would bug me. Everything was so unrelateable, not likeable and the 2 most normal likeable people got screwed over badly by a rotten spoiled kid and his narcissistic quest of the perfect Dream Mom like ordered from a Marvel Comic Merchandise Section!
I'm a woman and the genres romantic comedies/drama is of course my main favorite!
I don't like one Tom Hanks movie. They all suck different somehow.
Sleepless in Seattle and You Got Mail has a interesting synopsis for watching the movie but the outcome is sheer horrendous to suffer throu. Totally anti climax and while Meg Ryan's face comes across likeable... in both overhyped movies her actions and attraction to Tom Hanks are absolutely not relatable/understandable.
Pretty Woman, Ghost, Dancing with Wolves are epitome movies.... and then you have such utter crap! It's not even soothing cheap evening TV relief. You are just angry for days afterwards which wrong society message Hollyweird did even in best 80s/90s days. 21st Trash Millenium is of course unwatchable!
Homosexual people don't automatically like Trans, Queer n all the pathetic rest weirdos!
There are Butch and Femme Lesbians like Malely Male Bear Gays and Girly Girl Gays. Some like all, some only like their own range and some only like rather the opposite appearance.
Why should I as a Homosexual not express my likes and dislikes?! There are lots of villains in one's own community.
I don't need no script to spit truth. A junkie, a flasher, a chainsaw murderer are also not 100% vile rotten ppl.
Actors and esp lil unknown actresses have nothing to say on their script given lines. Rosie was happy to cash a first cheque and break even Hollyweird. If you can't spit what's written acting is the worst career choice to seek. It was a nice range. And if Hollyweird weren't Jew-owned another group would have fitted right into.
I should like these late 80s / early 90s days when the world was in it's grandest shape!
Divorce was rare, no smartphones, entertainment epitome - no retarding Pokemon, Teletubbies, Shitney Spears, Tschassdin Weeeener, Kim Asshole & Co CRAP.
No Trash Millennials ruining it all! However that kid was one of the very first Trash Millennials prototypes! 🗑️💩
I don't get the praise on Tom Hanks nor the characters he plays. It's Hollywood marketing and everyone falls trap like Emperor's New Clothes fairytale! No one can tell truth plain sight like it is. I would never fall for someone over such a RANDOM radio convo. The only sympathetic part was that he was a young widower raising a 8 yrs old now on his own. But whatever else he said was of no true likeableness... esp the Sex Stuff!
His assholeness was best portrayed over the more truthful mouth of his son. A brat I wouldn't wanna choose to be around for just 1 minute on my own free will. See his babysitter. Who would hire a unrelated gothic psycho?
I am the main audience for romantic comedies. But I felt only sorry for Walter and Victoria. Normalcy in self-absorbed narcissistics.
That kid, his father were the real antagonists, also Meg Ryan's character putting Walter on a scale while adoring someone she doesn't know at all. Frankly Sam was way worse than Walter comparing bigger picture. Plus Sam has that totally spoiled antiauthorian kid on his ass for the next 10 yrs as venomous package dictatinh his father's life and of course will command the new woman like the general of the house.
To judge a woman for not having the most perfect laugh or teeth or whatever is what has become of this fake world by 21st Trash Millenium! As interior designer she would have been a way better match to an architect as some media propaganda blablablaaah whore.
Of course laugh was a bit artificial as dating is awkward and everybody feels more or less uncomfy. That's not determining a person's moral, character and worth!
Forgotten Aspect:
After first screening I somewhat could live with the thought that well the unpleasant movie must be based on a true story. At least loosely.
That's why it's got no high polished feel-good characters and well people suck in so many layers as they do in real life. Assholes all around.
Maybe out of all family stories of the 9/11 victims this was the most intriguing background-story for Movie Potential! And it was good that it was not marketed as a 9/11 victim perspective movie as really the only good part was that reveal. Without that surprising twist def. 0/10!
However I specifically googled for it now 2nd time around and shockingly it wasn't even that! Total fiction! My Gosh... 😳 🤯
So it's even more 21st Century Trash MiIllenial Digital Waste! 🤕
Why would they?
Esp the 2 toxic male students have a very loose left-wing socialist student 'career', mainly partying up for sexually abusing girls.
And for the girl well, unbelievable story-writing that a 11 yrs old girl who witnessed her mother getting shot in the face by 2 dark-mixed steerage scum would out of any career choose esp helping such jail-birds! The law system already way to mild not executing all these money greedy kill-robbers!
A proper career story-writing would have been medicine to cope with her traumata. Her father is the only decent human in the entire movie! A real hard-working job, real parental care and making everything possible for the unthankful daughter.
And just at 21 all of a sudden she acts ups like 13 - for a random scarecrow dude she has known for days instead of years. Then she's all THAT surprised she's just not a ONS or OMS what's always the danger just in her age range/college days. Idiotic what she saw in him. Unrelatable.
Your mother being killed is quite a different tea then a older sibling suiciding himself or in a traffic accident.
I live near a bigger forest! Fast internet full signal in village for 25 yrs as well as all other surroundings villages!
However if you drive by car 5 minutes into the wood to a popular lil swimming sea and there are always several other people around for leisure walks over entire day you already have hardly signal there! Wandering few more minutes deeper inside the woods you lost def all signal!
Generation Trash Millenial 🗑️ 💩 is fukkin reletubby-retarded and lost all reality to reality!
The film is pop culture sensation on the rise of internet and if you haven't watched in cinema at night Autumn/Winter 1999 it's rather pointless just watching later in living room over a shiny spring/summer day! KNOWING PLOT before watching. Esp when having no connection to nature/woods in big city steel sterility!
Still it was a genius brilliant idea - esp creating the first myth hype on internet spreading as cheap marketing - by film students on low budget. The 100 million gross says it all!
Anything unique epitome 80s/90s than any soulless digital 21st Millenium Trash!
Those bag packs were massive. It wasn't really explained how long they originally planned the trip to Rustin Parr's House or whatever they were even actually heading! It was burned down for decades in the reality of 1994!
You would assume to not camp in a unknown wooden terrain (with criminal history) over night without some kind of rescue management. But they brought tent all along from start. I found it irritating how fast on Day 1 they started so much arguing and being scary frustrated! It should have build up way more believable. The cast of 3 was unlikeable from start so a lot drama was lost... first gaining their sympathy!
Surely locals do get in the wood for recreation, jogging, walking dogs on the daily. 50 yrs nothing happened of that kind anymore? I read somewhere that you have to stay overnight for the witch to shift reality. Making them walk in circles. Time-travel.
But what did the all those many young kids in the 1940s do all alone in the woods without parental guidance for at least more than 10 hours? I mean most kids are totally bored done on a 1 hour wood trip! And you surely don't start a leisure breathing walk at 8pm!
But for young film students pulling THAT off. Hats all off!
Strange not hearing anything about them anymore afterwards. Usually being sought after directors/producers with triple million budgets.
It was different. Groundbreaking. Not sure how it would have succeeded made 5 yrs prior. Internet myth marketing was surely the boost above 20 million! So much chatter yet no-one knew what the fukk this is all about! Pop culture!
I rather have anything clever on low budget exploding like this than James Bond, Star Wars, Avatar or the entire Marvel Superhero Shit with a crazy bat-shit triple-million budget and top-to-botttom main stream media marketing literally forced upon you and still hardly making gross!
To me it marked the end of the 20th Century entertainment epitome! Everything became un-original, boooring and soulless in 21st Trash Millenium! 🗑️ 💩
Alice is real easy to satisfy!
Instead of picking a young David Beckham, Brad Pitt or George Clooney she would lay down to these unfriendly grunge punk losers! Both had a unpleasant rapist feel from the start. I was never afraid of a witch. Just the real live terror of 2 steerage men and far off from civilization! I never thought about getting so deep in the woods that you don't find the way out anymore for 3 days. So I'm extra precautionary since this movie. Same with Diving after 'Open Water'. I was just 19 and starting to explore the world! The movies themselves are actually rather boring but that subtle real live horror that could happen to you as well instead of 'IT', 'RING' or 'Freddy Krueger' is a lesson and spooking you enough!
When I saw the thread I thought it was about who was standing in the corner? Mike or Josh!
Never ever expected this. Alice is the destructive cheap part of the female representation! Status Quo: 7 billion overpopulation! Root of all current major problems on Earth!
What kind of animal-hating asshole is you?!
The whales were actually the best sub-plot in a senseless 1.000th invasion movie with overlong fight scenes where in the end Good wins vs Bad!
The movie is lacking creativity. Shame for all that burned production money. Not a big fan of artificial, digital 21st Trash Millenium Movies anyway! A lot bothered me but def not the "Treat Animals Better" visuals for our egoistical, fame-sick, money-greedy Trash Youth! 🗑️ 💩