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Jon knew that he quite possibly wouldn’t return to Winterfell.
So to me, it does seem more logical to leave Ghost at home to protect Sansa.
… while of course, in truth Ghost probably didn’t come along for budgetary reasons.
Yes, I know that Jon Snow’s looking for allies.
And of course I watched the episode, I never visit any GoT-related forums until I’ve seen the latest episode.
I simply doubt that the White Walkers will wait all the events you’re laying out (plus the combined Lannister-Rest-of-Targaryen-army marching north) to launch their attack.
That’s why, when Tyrion said: "Help her to defeat my sister, and together, our armies will protect the North", Jon replied: "There's no time for that. There's no time for any of this!"
However, I won’t discuss this any further. In a few weeks, we all know if your predictions came true (except for the last bit which refers to Season 8). Moreover, with you talking about "actual productive posts", while at the same time, lashing out at everyone who doubts your vision, you don’t seem to meet your own requirements.
So, feel free to beat me up now, I won’t post anymore in this thread.
I think Varys isn’t as well-informed as he used to be, maybe due to the fact that Qyburn took over at least some of the "little birds", maybe because he was in Essos for a long time, which probably made it hard to keep his network up. Nowadays, others seem to have a clearer idea of what’s going on:
– While Euron obviously knew that Yara’s fleet on the way to King's Landing, Yara was caught with her pants down. (Almost literally, if Euron had arrived a few minutes later…)
– Cersei apparently knew that the Unsullied were going for Casterly Rock, so CR was more or less deserted because the Lannister army was marching towards Highgarden… as far as we know, Daenery’s party didn’t have the slightest notion about that.
– And then, there’s that weapon that Qyburn to fight the dragons. It was built by "the finest artillators and blacksmiths in King's Landing", so at least a fistful of people were involved. If Varys’ spy network would be as good as it used to be, he surely would know about that waepon by now.
Oh, so asking the Lannisters for help is enough to beat the army of the dead.
Stupid me!
»How big is Westeros though? Can she simply fly over within a few hours or will it take days?«
In S07E01, Jon said: "There's a thousand miles between us and Cersei", but we don't know if that’s the exact distance or more a figure of speech.
When Arya left the Inn at the Crossroads in S07E02, one of the other travellers said: "200 miles to King's Landing".
Both statements indicate that there’s [i]roughly[/i] a thousands miles between Dragonstone and the Wall, too.
We don’t know how fast the dragons can fly, and we don’t know how much a Westerosi mile actually is. For example, Wikipedia says: »The "old English mile" of the medieval and early modern periods varied but seems to have measured about 1.3 international miles«. Since GoT takes a lot from the european mediaeval times, a Westoris mile might refer to measurement – and, even more likely, a "mile" might not be a strictly defined as it is nowadays.
However, it’d say that even on dragonback, it’d be a matter of several days. One way.
As I’ve said in another thread, Tyrion probably thought there’s a lot of gold in Casterly Rock, because he didn’t know that the Lannister mines ran dry. And a lot of gold is handy when you’re in war.
A personal vendetta could’ve been a part of his thinking, yes, but all the others in the room – Olenna Tyrell, Ellaria Sand, Davos Seaworth – didn’t disagree, so they must’ve thought that taking Casterly Rock [b]is[/b] important.
While I can imagine that Sansa takes the power because she thinks she more fit to rule than Jon, I can’t imagine that the joins with Littlefinger. She said it herself: "Only a fool would trust Lord Baelish."
4: Don’t forget that Tyroin probably doesn’t know that the Lannister mines ran dry.
Tywin told Cersei but there surely wasn’t a public announcement.
If you image that Tyrion might think that CR is still full of gold, the decision to take it acutally makes sense. After all, Tyrion has learned all his life that gold equals power.
It seems to me you forgot a little something in your plot.
Hint: Starts with an "A" and ends with "rmy of the Dead marching south".
»I wonder if the scrolls the archmaester assigned Sam to copy were related to the white walkers.«
My thoughts exactly!
Giving him that seems like a punishment in order to keep his face, but in fact giving Sam what he asked for as a reward.
Hopefully, you didn’t forget that Podrick Payne accidently killed Sansa while practicing sword fighting?
;-)
Thanks!
So, "burned" is the older form. Seems to be appropriate in GoT context. :-)
»the High Septon doesn't have nearly as much power as the Pope did back in the day - not even the high Sparrow and his "faith militant" goons.«
The High Sparrow [i]might[/i] have gained that power, over time.
However, getting burned to ashes was kind of a deal breaker.
(And geez, I think I’ll never get this straight: Is it "burned to ashes" or "burnt to ashes" in English?)
»Even in Westeros they would label him crazy.«
Not necessarily.
Bran could do something like he did when he met Edd, i.e. telling him that he saw him at the Fist of the First Men. Maybe he could say to Jon: »So, you lost your virginity in a cave, huh?«
;-)
… but of course, it [b]is[/b] better if there’s someone to confirm the story at the tower.
Who’s protesting?
Who’s banning?
I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about, did I miss something?
*lol*
Good idea! You oughta be a marriage counselor!
»an accurate sense of how much time has passed is not the genre's strong suite«
Which doesn’t surprise me.
If I’d write a fantasy novel, I wouldn’t want to check if every idea that I have in my head fits to the time that it takes to go from point A to point B on horseback or on foot. I mean, if you write a contemporary novel, it’s easy: You want a character to go from A to B by car, you check Google Maps and within two minutes, you know how long it takes. You want him to travel by plane… well, for some routes Google Maps helps, too, or just enter "flight duration pointA pointB" into Google’s web search, and you’ll get an result that’s close enough for you to lay out the timeline of your story.
But if I’d had to calculate the time for every movement of every character in a fantasy world… I’d probably just stop writing at some point because I’m fed up with it. After all, I’m writing a novel, not a travel guide.
Well, there ARE theories that the Mad King goes mad [i]because[/i] of Bran taking another trip to the past (just like it happened with Hodor). I don’t think so, but – who knows? We’ll see…
The OP is talking about when it’ll be revealed to the people of Westeros, not to us.
The way I see it, only Bran CAN reveal it because no one else knows. It’d be real bad writing IMO if they give Bran the vision about this big secret, and then a nursemaid suddenly comes up saying: »Oh, I knew it all along! Would’ve told you earlier if I’d known that you people don’t know.«
And I think he WILL reveal it, in some way or another. Either because he feels that Jon should know, or because his tongue slips.