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It is done all the time. Every film or series about historical personages is heavily fictionalized. No writer knows what they were saying or thinking or doing all the time, or their motivations. And the producers want to sell their product, So they cast attractive actors. How many people do you think would have watched this series if Victoria and Albert looked like they did in reality?
Victoria is a sort of fairytale based on a time, place, and actual people with some reality and actual history thrown in. It is based on a novelization, not a historical biography.
I am enjoying the series for what it is.
I did find the episode that dealt with the Irish Potato Famine and how the Reverend Traill dealt with it heartbreaking. My husband had family that fled Ireland because of it. Rev. Traill, too, is based on a historical character who happens to have been a several times great-grandfather of Daisy Goodwin.
Even documentaries have to of necessity to make some assumptions about what their subjects said and thought, not having been present.
No, she is not! But she certainly is a klutz.
It was refreshing that the rapport between Sophie and Langdon was not turned into a romance.
It wasn't necessary to the movie which was interesting enough without that.
I don't either. It's fiction based on those old ideas, many of which have been debunked or for which there is no proof. People also need to inform themselves about the difference between truth and fiction. The film is not promoting anything, just telling a fictional story based on a novel. So many people get riled up over nothing.
There was no stupid 'hook-up' culture in the time in which this movie is set among observant Jewish people. Esther and Judah were engaged or would have been if Judah had not been sent into slavery, and upon his return, been caught up in chariot racing to revenge himself on Messala and later, the search for Tirzah and Miriam.
Although the film ends after the Crucifixion and the healing of Judah's mother and sister, it can be concluded that they married. The book, which few have probably read, makes that clear.
Seems like you have a prejudice against Roman Catholics.
I have 10 years of "RC" education in a parochial school which I took very seriously. We were never taught anything about the physical description of Jesus. The Gospels certainly never had that information, and I have never heard of any document RC or anywhere else that does.
This is strictly my own opinion: I think the tradition arose to demonstrate Jesus' divinity which distinguished him from the human beings among whom He was born.
There is no physical description of Jesus in the gospels.
The Kyrie was part of the Latin Mass although the words are Greek. It is still a part of the Mass but in English. And, of course, there are many versions in chant.
I love the wedding scene and this version of the chant.
William Petersen was Walker who was gunned down. William Sanderson was Lippy, the piano player who joined the wagon train. He was still there in this series.
,,,especially after the viewer is shown the visions that are passing through Call's mind.
The Irish boy, Sean, after having a premonition about crossing the river being bitten to death by water moccasins and his brother too overcome by grief to be able to sing a song from home that Sean loved at the graveside.
Clara Allen tearfully telling July about the loss of her three boys and how if July doesn't want baby Martin, she would take him, but if he does, to take his baby and leave before she becomes too attached. That always brings the tears to my eyes.
July trying to summon from Elmira some interest in life when he finds her, telling her of the death of her son Joe and the birth of baby Martin. The poor man loves her so, and all she thinks about is that Dee Boot has been hanged. Then she runs from him again.
Dish on the porch watching over Lorie as she grieves at Gus' coffin. He loves her so much and it is not reciprocated.
The death of Deets killed trying to rescue and comfort the little Indian boy, the carving of a saint that the Mexican cook had made for him, telling him that she would protect him, falling from his hand, and later what seems to be his ghost leading Pea Eye to Call.
The look in Newt's eyes when in spite of the horse and watch that Call gives him, he realizes that he is not going to admit that the Newt is his son.
Call finally giving vent to his feelings and weeping at Augustus' grave.
"Man have tears in them, same as you." Clara Allen to her daughters when they ask why July Johnson is crying after he finds out that Elmira has abandoned their baby with Clara and run from him again.
I know this thread is ancient but....Barry Sadler probably drew from a book by Joseph Gaer "The Legend of the Wandering Jew" published in 1961.
The Casca" series was published in 1979. It draws various incarnations of the legend into the one book. Cartaphilus is one of the incarnations.
In real life, Nick would not likely have risen to a leadership position, but this is a fiction horror story. It requires suspension of disbelief.
In the world of The Stand, Nick, even though an unbeliever (when he owned his unbelief, Mother Abigail chuckled and said something like "It doesn't matter; He-God- believes in you." was chosen by God through Mother Abigail.
Nick was empathic and could communicate without words He had ESP, was somewhat innocent, and in spite of his mistreatment, was basically a good person. He and the innocent Tom who also had a disability formed a strong bond, and Tom accepted him as a leader.
The Stand has been remade as a CBS All Access mini-series. I can't imagine anyone but Bill Fagerbakke as Tom Cullen, but he is too old now. He had a childlike appearance and was able to portray Tom's innocence, which was of use to the Boulder group on Tom's spy mission as his mind could not be read. In real life, Tom would probably not be recognized as a hero, but in the world of The Stand, he was one.
Never cared for Nero; he had a smarmy look to me.
Nicholas Clay in Excalibur was the ideal Lancelot. I never saw the Broadway version, but just by his voice Robert Goulet must have been a great Lancelot. He also had a French surname.
I remember that song ("Fie on Goodness!") and the fact that I had the 33 1/3 record of the Broadway production before the film came out. I'm pretty sure I still have it.
Loved Robert Goulet as Lancelot. He had a golden voice.
Arthur's final good-bye with Guinevere and the reprise of the song, "Camelot" still bring the tears.
I watched it on On Demand for the first time in years this morning. Saw it for the first time in 1967. I cried then, too.
Watched it on On Demand early this morning, first time in many years.
She certainly didn't deserve Arthur.
On the way to her wedding her voice and behavior indicted that she wanted to experience more of life and men before she had to marry. She was ripe for trouble. I think she came to love Arthur, but he was so caught up in his idealism which he wanted Guinevere to be a part of, that he became almost a living icon to her. She needed more attention than he spared for her even though he loved her to distraction.
He, a king cuckolded by his beloved wife and best friend, was so generous to them, even in his humiliation.
The last scenes of them together as they say good-bye forever are heart-wrenching, as is the reprise of the song "Camelot".
I am of the generation that was young during John Kennedy's tenure as president, and Martin Luther King's activism, a time of idealism and hope sadly lacking these days. This film and song have those associations for me.
To me this song says, "We flung wide our prison doors" (We slept together), and now we have to deal with the consequences. Was it worth it?"