White man playing Jesus?, not historically acurrate

"No, you're wrong. "

Are you sure? Are you absolutely 100% positive about how right you are and how wrong I am? Are you the authority on theological thinking?


"Hell is a place of torment because it means separation from God. "

Sounds like this 'God' of yours is on some crazy, self-possessed narcissist trip. That's what I think.


"Sin separates us from God and if we go to Him with sin on us after our life on Earth, He must be separated from us."

Again, it sounds like God is not willing to accept that we think for ourselves and not for him, or her. Maybe if God were as loving and forgiving as he likes to think he is, he should find it in his heart to accept us as we are now, and help us through our turmoil as we enter through the pearly gates. Must there be fire and brimstone?


"He tried to tell us. He tried to help us. We choose to sin."

What separates help from brainwashing? Perhaps God wants to help us when we need it, instead of when we think we need it. Everyone needs help from God, yet he seems to be not answering. Maybe God has no influence until he can get his hands on our souls, and can then show us how much he truly loves us, and accept us as we accept him all at once. I'd like to think of God as more of a friend than a dictator. One who wants to see us succeed in the name of ourselves instead of him.


"But God made a way - Jesus was perfect and never sinned. He was so perfect, He could take all the punishment for our sins and bring Himself back from that punishment."

Why is God so interested in punishment? Why does Jesus feel the need to save us from God? Is God, in actuality, an evil dictator who is more interested in the ultimate praise to him?

Again ... what if God has absolutely NO influence on this world, which is why he can't come in and make things better? What if, when we die and go to heaven, he cures us of all these preconceived notions of right and wrong, and we all become at peace. Maybe that's what God's love is?


"All it takes is accepting the gift to be redeemed from your sins."

It's a gift to be dictated by a ruler we can't see? That's not a gift. That's communism. Isn't it anti-american, and therefor anti-christian to be a communist?


"But for many people, it's easier for them to just say things like, "Maybe Jesus wasn't the Son of God." rather than turning from sin toward God. If you love your sin more than God, it's not a choice you're likely to make."

Maybe for many people, they are happier without the whole 'fire and brimstone' threat hovering above them. If God was SO bent on having a Six-Million people brigade on his hands, wouldn't he have made us aware of him in the first place? I would actually believe that the buddhist Siddhartha was more the son of an ever-loving God than the Christian Jesus.

In fact, the true, unadulterated and pure message of Jesus was not that different from Siddhartha himself. Perhaps they could be derived from the same story? Or perhaps they were friends? OR perhaps they were the same person?


"Either way, Jesus is there, arms wide open."

That's what my theory was. Both Jesus and God are there, arms wide open, through thick and thin, and will love us regardless of the decisions we make, no matter how horrid they may turn out to be. When we die, and we go to heaven, maybe Jesus and God will be standing there with their arms open and will welcome is in, and say something like 'From here on, there will be no more suffering. Only peace and bliss. Welcome home.'

There is something to live for. There is a God that I would love to encounter. A god that is willing to take ... say ... a murderous psychopath. A person who is just wired wrong from the start, and when said murderous psychopath dies and goes to heaven, God and Jesus welcome him in with open arms. "You will suffer no more" ... and that psychopath's soul is taken to a place of peace and bliss.

That's being there with open arms. Not this whole 'God gave us a chance and we screwed it all up by choosing sin.' That all seems judgmental and power-stricken to me.

You obviously do since you posted on this thread.

I agree. White people have a habit of saying "who cares what color his skin was?" because he is always depicted as white. Nobody minds when Jesus is a white guy with blond hair and blue eyes, but when anyone suggests that he's anything else people want to end the conversation immediately. A white Jesus? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, yet supposedly rational people believe it.

Seems like you have a prejudice against Roman Catholics.
I have 10 years of "RC" education in a parochial school which I took very seriously. We were never taught anything about the physical description of Jesus. The Gospels certainly never had that information, and I have never heard of any document RC or anywhere else that does.
This is strictly my own opinion: I think the tradition arose to demonstrate Jesus' divinity which distinguished him from the human beings among whom He was born.

"I love how black people try to claim Jesus as one of their own, as if the race of the Son of God actually matters. Do you think if he was alive today he'd listen to rap and call you "brotha"?"

Well white people have have claimed Jesus to be a white, blond haired, blue eyed man for many centuries to the extent that even considering the notion of Jesus not being white is deemed ridiculous.

And for the love of God, stop saying Jesus was a Jew. A Jew is from the tribe of Judah, who had eleven other brothers that in time had tribes of their own. This is known as the 12 tribes of Israel (Israel being the new name of Jacob). Mary, the mother of Jesus, was from the tribe of Levi which will make her a Levite not a Jew.

This will make Jesus a Levite as well, as he did not have a biological father. Jesus can also be called an Israelite as well because all the tribes of Israel came from the children of the man named Israel/Jacob.

All Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews.

And for the record, Jesus would most likely resemble an Arab from Egypt or Palestine, than a European or an African. But that is based mostly on logic, not fact.

Go watch the movie Zeitgeist. I think you can watch the full movie on google video.