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'I Loved You Once In Silence'


for some reason, even though I hate Venessa's singing in this movie, I just love the movie version of the song better than on the obc. I think just because the orchestration is so much simpler that it is more dark and personal in the movie than it is on the obc. On the obc it sounds like this lavish broadway melody and the tune and I never thought that the dark beautiful words and tone of the scene fit the music that was happening. But in the movie it feels right. I also like how Lancelot joins in to sing it.

does this sound weird to you or do you agree?

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I do completely agree with you here, its much more beautiful here without the big broadway orchestration neutralising it

Perfection in darkness

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I totally agree. In the film, "Loved You Once In Silence" fits in with the dramatic plot and the simple orchestration (guitar) adds a touch of sadness and poignancy to Guenevere and Lancelot's decision to part ways for the better good and for Arthur. I have heard the Original Broadway Cast- Julie Andrews, Richard Burton, Robert Goulet, and their "Loved U Once In Silence" is not as good. Vanessa Redgrave sounds dark, sad and beautiful. This is my favorite song in all the musical. It's so heart-breaking and beautiful.

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Every song Andrews has ever sung gets pushed through her filter and pooped out as another perky Julie Andrews song. She couldn't find sensuality (that Redgrave did) with a dictionary and a gallon of lube.

Camelot (the movie) is excruciating mainly because Jack Warner treated it like it was Gone with the Wind and he was Selznick. Cukor sleptwalked through the making of My Fair Lady and it won Best Picture and people still like it (go figure... I hate it.) All Logan had to do was point the camera at Lerners sly, poignant script. But nooooooo! They went *beep* overboard on "up to the minute" production design which, looks positively crappy and stupid today.

Harris looks the part but stage-whispers every freaking line unitl you want to strangle him. Only William Shatner would have done worse with it.

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Oh, onepotato2, your post made me laugh. Thanks !!

I have to agree re Julie. I've just rewatched "Camelot", and in the very first scene of Guinevere arriving in the litter I found myself thinking "I wonder why they didn't get Julie Andrews for this part?" ... about fifteen seconds later, it was bloody obvious why. Vanessa Redgrave was beautiful and like honey in all sorts of ways, and you could readily believe that both Richard Harris and Franco Nero would be smitten with her. I had moments throughout the movie of wishing she'd been more capable as a singer, and other moments of admiring how they'd wrangled phrases or even whole songs into shapes that made them more achievable for her, but overall I was very glad indeed they weren't being shaped by that cat's-bum prissiness that Julie Andrews seems to have whenever she's trying to be serious.

I really agree with you about "My Fair Lady" as well. It's a monumental disappointment that they could take such a witty comedy of social observation and make it so turgid and slow and capital-w Worthy. Though in this case, I really wish they'd cast Julie Andrews, who could have done that role quite well, for the most part; she certainly would have been streets ahead of Audrey Hepburn, who I think was appallingly bad in that role. She couldn't sing, she couldn't handle the accent (she not only didn't sound like a genuine Cockney, she didn't sound like a genuine human-being for most of it) and she couldn't act the part or handle the comedy, so what the hell was the point of casting her ? Yeah I know, they cast her with the box-office in mind, but it's still really painful to watch.

And as for Harris, well, you summed it up for me: he didn't act the part so much as stage-whisper it. He looked good in the role, except that his blue eye-shadow constantly reminded me of my sister when she was 17, and used to wear blue eye-shadow and white lipstick and vinyl boots. Also, during his Shatner moments, he frequently looks at the camera, as if he's speaking directly to us, but his sightline always goes just slightly to the side of the lens, which was a ploy that just didn't work and actually annoyed the crap out of me. It made me want to wave my hands and shout "Oy! I'm over here!!"


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Well some of the problems with Harris' performance is the dang close ups...of which there are too many and too close....Logan had way too many in Paint your Wagon too....musicals should rarely have closeups especially in singing scenes it is just too much...one reason My fair Lady is superior to Camelot is because George Cukor was a director of taste who didnt feel obliged to show us everyones nostrils or tonsils....If the camera hadnt been 6 inches from his face the makeup wouldnt have been so obvious either

as to the original post...although i prefer Julie andrews as Guenivere, this is one song which I believe is presented in a superior way in the film, without all the orchestration

It is not our abilities that make us who we are...it is our choices

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Of course, Vanessa Redgrave didn't have to perform the song live on stage, unamplified, to an audience of thirteen hundred people eight performances a week, and STILL make it work!

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after your comments mylesag... I am going to start watching it again right now.

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Jane Fonda also loved Vanessa Redgrave and admired her for being an outspoken and passionate woman about social issues. Jane wanted to name one of her children after Vanessa (source: Jane Fonda autobiography). She was good friends with Redgrave in the late 60's too.

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Hey, at least they'll burn with all the interesting and fun people... I mean, how great is Heaven gonna be with all those religous wackos who don't know how to cut loose and have a good time? It'd be like going to a playground witha kid who's afraid of going on the swings and makes you stand by his/her side the whole time...

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Julie Andrews was a great singer and probably would have done a better cockney in My Fair Lady. That being said, Audrey Hepburn blows all other Elizas away with her "lady" performance in the second half. No one can touch her. Even Julie would have looked like a moose next to Audrey. Audrey was simply THE lady and that is it.

As for Julie vs. Vanessa, again, even Vanessa would probably admit that her voice is technically nothing compared to Julie's. That being said, Vanessa has dramatic acting chops that Julie can't even begin to have. Julie's songs in Camelot are beautiful, but not showing much in the way of emotion or character arc. Vanessa's interpretations are more memorable for the wide range of emotions her songs go through. By the time Camelot gets to "I Loved You Once in Silence," her voice is absolutely heartbreaking.

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To me this song says, "We flung wide our prison doors" (We slept together), and now we have to deal with the consequences. Was it worth it?"

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