Self Defense? (SPOILERS)


Okay, what Alexander did to her friend in the past was despicable and 100% rape, and by no means am I sticking up for the guy, but she had him handcuffed to the bed and was going to start cutting him and torturing him, possibly even killing him. Had he not burned the body, don't you think killing her would have been classified as self-defense? Burning the body was what did him in. His friend would have seen him handcuffed to the bed and the police should have been called immediately. The zippered pouch with all the scalpels and scary stuff was right there as proof. Anyone agree?

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She would have got off scott free, just like in real life.

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well she hadnt actually done anything , so yeah.

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except she's dead . Free! , but dead

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I thought the exact same thing. She drugged a dozen guys and then was going to tortured a guy handcuffed to a bed, they should have called the police right away. I do not understand why they did not.

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How were they calling the police when they were all passed out?

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When they woke up the next morning. When his buddy went up and saw him handcuffed to the bed with a dead girl.

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What he did was murder, not self-defense. He had to smother her with that pillow for quite sometime. He was able to subdue her and didn't need to kill. But he could've probably got off since there's no video of just how long he stayed on top of her when the threat was pretty much no longer there. Which is why I really don't understand why they'd end up burning the body it just didn't make sense to me, rather than report it. I guess its just to show these guys as being so immoral and thinking they can do anything.

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But even if he subdued her temporarily, he was still handcuffed to the bed, he could not have kept her from being dangerous to him for the entire night like that. One wrong move and it would have been over for him.

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They were cheap sex toy cuffs that he could easily break out of. Thats how he got out of one of them.

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And yet he was stuck in the other one all night, until his friend found him.

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The thing is, in spite of everything, she was just going to scar him.

It's bad, of course... But murder is not an equivalent response to a scar.

And the funny part was that he had just killed her, but he's still so much in his own world that his worry was "Anastasia will be disappointed" and "what about my job".

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Yes, I had the impression she was about to carve the name "Nina" all over his body. I think she announced something like this before getting close to him.

The point here was, in my opinion, that for people who consider group rape to be fun, it would be easier to just kill a stripper and get rid of the body than having to explain to their spouses why a stripper was invited to the party in the first place. For sociopaths just a quick way to avoid an inconvenience, so to say.

A little over the top, yes, but matches and works with the rest of the movie.

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While the situation could be defensible, it’s risky. As the predicament is set up, going to the police would expose the scandal, trash the groom’s image and jeopardize his entire future. That’s what drives them to try to keep it quiet and dispose of the body.

But this shouldn’t come as a surprise with a plot this contrived and nonsensical. The terrible writing and character interactions don’t help.

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***While the situation could be defensible, it’s risky. As the predicament is set up, going to the police would expose the scandal, trash the groom’s image and jeopardize his entire future***


ITA, but it would beat life in prison! :-/

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yeah great solution , if you're fine with doing another murder becasue it would make things convenient

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Because that's how it is in real life. Most people would dread going to the police and take their chance in court, even if they were in the right.

If a crime happened without any witnesses, there is very little chance the perpetrator would turn themselves in, even if it was accidental.

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Also, was the ending sort of being on the verge of anti-vengeance? Like, maybe the movie was trying to say that as horrible and wrong as those perpetrators indeed are, revenge is not the correct option and they should've been arrested and jailed instead?

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