‘Damn! I thought I was the only one who knew how to make one of these!’
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/steven-spielberg-reaction-to-indiana-jones-dial-of-destiny/
I don't think old Stevie is a trustworthy source of opinion for judging works of his lifelong friends like Ford. He also said that he had watched The Force Awakens multiple times when it premiered because it was that good... Oh, and he directed Crystal Skull, that must tell something how out of touch he is.
shareHot take. People who make movies love movies, even if they're ahit. They just watch them differently.
shareWouldn't you think they watch them with a more critical eye because they make movies themselves and can pick out all the faults or overanalyse what they would do better? When you see somebody do something you expert in, and it's not very good, you do pick out all the faults. You can't help it because you know it intimately, and can see what others don't see.
I've heard some film makers dislike watching their old stuff after it's finished with, and beyond the haze of filming and editing room.
He's complimenting it because he's an exec producer, and the Hollywood types usually stick together and don't crap on each other, especially before release.
Same with Jim Cameron and the god-awful Terminator sequel movies, he always stuck his "seal of quality" badge on.
I thought dark fate was awesome.
shareLooked like junk so I never bothered. I'm not even going to give it a chance because even if it tries to be fun (which I doubt it attempts to be fun) in a "switch your brain off" kinda way I'll know for a fact it'll keep insulting my intelligence so the frontal lobe will keep activating trying to figure out why is the movie so dumb.
Die Hard 2, that's dumb and fun.
Dark Fate just looks dumb.
You haven't even seen it. Your opinion isn't valid.
shareDoesn't matter. When you know you know.
I'm not even judging you. I like loads of crap you may hate.
I haven't seen The Room. I'm told it's hilarious. I just know it's going to be a boring ass fest with a few funny moments that we've all seen before in YouTube compilations. Literally 3 minutes worth of funny in 1 hour 30 mins plus of bore-fest.
Dark Fate is ass, you enjoyed it, fair enough, don't attempt to shame me into seeing that tripe, the trailer looks tripe, reviews tripe, word of mouth tripe, it looks dumb and the makers are not smart enough to make it fun.
I won't attempt to strong-arm you into seeing something you think is tripe that I love.
Quid pro quo.
Spielberg was also the executive producer for JURASSIC WORLD: DOMINION, which was absolutely atrocious and went over budget by 100%.
He’s WAY past his prime.
Spielberg has old man noodle brain. I just read that now he regrets having edited the guns out of ET. This guy don't know what the hell he likes or doesn't. He even feels bad now about having started an interspecies war against sharks.
shareHe followed George's idiotic lead for Crystal Skull and those ridiculous ET changes. He lost his edge and backbone long ago.
shareWell, he wouldn’t badmouth the movie at this point so who really knows what it’s going to be.
I hope it’s great, the cast and director are really good.
Remember what Spielberg said after he saw an advanced screening of “Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace” back in 1999?
“I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE IT AGAIN!!!”
He was probably laughing his ass off, and humouring George.
"Oh George, welcome to the stinker club. You were untouchable for almost 2 decades now, and it's time for you to sample a bit of backlash"
He probably saw the one with the redone ending that didn't involve killing off Indy and having Bitcherella Fleabag take his place.
shareTo this day I still vivid remember before Transformers 2 release, Spielberg said it's the best movie from Michael Bay.
shareSpielberg is full of shit.
Raiders is a fluke.
Raiders is obviously not a fluke because Spielberg has made at least a dozen bona fide classics. But he has had his fair share of clunkers.
shareRaiders is a total fluke.
It was made quickly and on a mid sized budget.
The result is far above anything else they have ever made.
You can see the difference between Raiders and its big budget big ideas sequels, where both SS and GL really could do what they wanted.
The rest of SS filmography speaks for itself: it's Spielberg, with all the good and the bad.
Raiders is something else.
Quigley Down Under was made quickly on a shoe string.
Spielberg can't fluke multiple classics.
i think george lucas had raiders mapped out pretty well before he even told speilberg about his idea
shareNot really, he had the general idea and a few plot element, but Kasdan translated it into Raiders.
sharei won’t argue but i remember seeing something posted that was a translation of the discussion about raiders, i think topher grace posted it at the time, and george had the beats there and kasdan just connected the dots and wrote it out in long form. my mind could be favoring george cause i remember losing faith in kasdan after force awakens and some comments he and his son made. it’s all a feint memory now.
shareYes you are correct, but that to me is just a general idea.
If I remember correctly, even the ark was not in his idea, but brought in by Kasdan.
But for all of them Raiders was a fluke. It happens, it's a magic combination that the makers themselves cannot explain nor replicate.
They are all great filmmakers with many successes, yet Raiders was lightning in a bottle.
I agree with you. As much as I liked the other Indiana Jones movies (that Skull movie doesn't exist for me) none of them were anywhere near as good as the original. Unfortunately, George never made a good movie ever again. To his credit Spielberg had some good and a few almost great movies afterward, and Kasdan made some good films, but none of them ever made anything like Raiders ever again.
shareHear hear!
shareIt's amazing that George made both Empire and Raiders one after the other. They are two of the greatest films ever made. He was never going to top them.
shareYeah, he was in top form.
He definitely lost it right after. Why?
Maybe he got too much freedom?
He focused on other stuff?
He was simply lucky to make that one two?
I think he amassed too much power and was surrounded by yes men. Also, he separated from his longtime collaborator Gary Kurtz. I have heard that it was Gary who kept George grounded and always advised him that no matter what he was writing that he had to keep the writing realistic.
shareSounds exact.
shareHe still was able to write Temple of Doom, Last Crusade and Willow. So, it wasn't like he went completely bankrupt.
Although Temple of Doom is brought down by Kate Capshaw's incessant screaming. However, I think that that was more Steven Spielberg's fault than Lucas. On set Spielberg fell for a hot piece of a$$ (and she was HOT) and I think he was too mesmerized by her to notice the screaming was too much.
Last Crusade, while being very good is brought down a bit by what they did to Marcus Brody's character, and that is in no way an insult to Denholm Elliot. He was a fantastic actor and did great with what they gave him. He was genuinely funny in the role. It was just a bit too much comedy in an otherwise serious movie. However, I'm still glad that he had a large role in the film.
Willow was fun but it suffered from being a bit too Star Wars like. It was as if George took the same recipe that he had for Star Wars and just planted it in a medieval setting.
Then he got to The Radio Land Murders... I hear that he had been working on that since prior to both Star Wars and American Graffiti! I think that that movie marked the end for him as a creative writing force. Yeah, after that he did the prequels, and the prequels had some good ideas in them, but they had either, already been discussed, or already used in his Star Wars movies, or were taken right out of the Dune novels.
I guess that that's a wrap. LOL
Movies are a collaborative affair. Harrison Ford played the lead, Spielberg filmed it, Lucas had the ideas, Kasdan put them all into a script, they all storyboarded it, John Williams scored it, Douglas Slocombe was cinematographer, ILM did the special effects. The rest of the cast. The casting director who put the supporting cast together. The set designers, the crafts people who built the sets, costume designers. The craft service people who made the sandwiches.
Every great movie is a fluke, and a collaborative affair.
Except when it's bad, then it's all on the director.