The future is female?


There are 6 females and 4 males that make up the bridge crew.

What happened to all the men? Did they all die in WWIII because of the mandatory draft for men only?

First episode was decent, but as always it was preachy and woke.

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yeah, it will eventually turn into liberal woke diversity.

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It is a LOT less woke and preachy than the other 2 turds (no, not an Amber reference)

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The predominantly female cast was definitely woke but i didn't feel it was too preachy or heavy handed. Not like Discovery which was unwatchable Or Picard which felt very preachy in season 2. So far i'm enjoying it. The stand alone episodes and tone of the show feel more like classic trek.

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Its not to bad so far, just noticed an inordinate amount of women on the bridge. If we are going for diversity and inclusion then it should be equal.

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As far as diversity
Two white males (one an Vulcan)
Two white females
One black female
One black male
And whatever Ortegas is supposed to be. Hispanic? (Would not be surprised if she is a lesbian not it is not stated so far)

No asian leads. Male or female. No Hispanic males. No disabled males or females. So far only straight characters. No LGBT that we know of yet.

So while the 6 to 4 female to male bridge crew is unusual for most TV shows, the percentage of women in the human population is 49.74 percent. So not that unbelievable and this is supposed πŸ™„ to be the future so it may be possible women will eventually outnumber men worldwide πŸ€”. So not bad as far as so called woke shows these days.

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Number One is lesbian. La'an Noonien-Singh is bisexual.

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Was that stated in the show? When?

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S1E8, there was one line and a definite "look" between Number One and Ortegas. Not exactly "stated" but definitely "there."

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It could be the case that both Ortegas and number one are lesbian, bisexual or neither. Some fans have implied that Chapel is bisexual as well but until it has been stated by the producers, writers or in the actual show, I have no idea.

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Discovery was totally unwatchable. What a piece of crap.

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I watched for a while thinking it would ease back on the wokeness, find it's footing and get better but i just couldn't take anymore. Nonsensical pretentious woke garbage.

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It was far from preachy and, for myself, I would not even say it was woke. For me woke, in reference to gender, means that it has to bring attention to the idea that women are treated worse than men or that it is more difficult to be a woman than to be a man.

I have watched the first three episodes and none of them do this. There has yet to be a line where a woman says something like "You don't think I can do this because I am a woman" or a male character comes off as overtly sexist.

Gender has yet to be a part of this show. Unlike say "The Orville" where they had a culture, the Moclans, that forced a male to female gender transition to all females. The Moclans, believed women were physically and mentally incapable of fully participating in the species' warrior culture.
Long story short a female officer on the Orville who grew up on a planet with stronger gravity than most planets (so she was stronger than most people) was used as an example of a female who was strong. I felt this was 100% woke as it was bad writing because it was used to show that women are physically strong but her strength came not from her being a female but from the gravity difference.
The Moclans were written in such a way that it was clear that they were a stereotypical representation of men who think women are worthless. While I agree that these types exist making the me the obvious villain in a show is not going to change their minds. It is not like they still have that attitude after seeing women be successful in SO many things but a TV show where that type of thinking is proven incorrect using exaggerated methods is going to change their minds.


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I think you've become so jaded that a mere presence of a couple more women makes you scream cringey things like "woke".

No, this is not at all "woke" as you claim because that is not what woke means. I'm a liberal Democrat and even I too find things "woke" sometimes. Because this is what is woke -

when things are not subtle but shoved in your face and then smeared all over your face so you "get it" which the writer/director/others think otherwise you won't understand or don't get. Why? Because they're stupid and idiotic and just because they are of low IQ, they think everyone needs it explained like this. Who are such people? People like Donald Trump and many other idiots of such low IQ that they need to state the obvious thinking it just hit them so everyone needs spoon feeding like that.

e,g, Supergirl, Batwoman with dialogs like "a suit is perfect only when it fits a woman" etc. In such shows, men are neutered to the point of being useless and explicitly stated and shown that way followed by explicit dialogs that repeat it and then more dialogs that state it again, genders that are changed or skin colors and then instead of just being subtle and showing such things are not relevant, major statements are made about the skin color so you "get it" as to why and then more things are done and shown explicitly like you're an imbecile. Women are not shown equal but overpowered and it is stated repeatedly that they are strong women and others are not. This is a swing of the pendulum to the other direction where 5'4" 110lb women can thrash a swarm of 6'2" 220lb men easily because she is "strong". Instead of relying on what they might be good at such as brain skill and strategy to compensate for physical weakness to take the opponent out, they resort to impossible physical strength feat in a show of "strength" because otherwise the woman is "weak". Nevermind that even weaker men can be thrashed by stronger women but no, they purposely take physically weak women and choreograph them to thrash strong men thus neutering the whole setup and men just to shove a physically strong woman in your face. Then women try this in real life and get beaten up badly.

That is "woke"

ST:SNW is not woke. In such shows, you CAN have more women than men and it is no issue because there is 0 reference to their being women leading to any advantage or disadvantage. They just simply do the job and show subtly that they are qualified and capable and it is all about the work and working together and not that a single lone hero always rescues the team and it happens to be a woman or diff skin color etc. like in ST:D or ST:P.

ST:SNW is very neutral and well made because it truly shows subtly that you can be anyone and if you do the job well, then you're good for that part. That truly is progress.

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Hilarious, that you use Trump as an example of wokeness. You haven't been paying attention.

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I'm not saying Trump is woke at all. He's an unAmerican weak traitorous pos. He's the modern day Benedict BackStabbing Arnold.

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But he gave us $2 a gallon.

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Didn't realize Presidents job is to set gas prices. Lol. You should look up how oil futures works and how speculative trading is what sets gas prices. You don't really know how things work but are so sure about Trump $2 gas. He's a cheap moron.

Reality is he cost us million lives while taking the vaccine himself.

He's a hypocrite idiot

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Low inflation no wars

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Trump gave High covid deaths, America became laughing stock, high illegal immigration, looted the country playing golf at his own resort and getting us to pay him playing golf, instability in allies relationships, economic upheaval with no improvement of American lives etc.

He was a disaster.

Biden is far better by all means.

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if you like the mafia

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CNN:Why Biden may want to take a page from Trump's OPEC playbook

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/06/business/gas-prices-opec-biden-trump/index.html

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I don't mind a crew of females as long as I am the only male. Hell, I rather they have large breasts to go along with it so I can work properly.

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everyone likes big boobs.

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I work with mostly women. Which is odd as hell considering it's a warehousing job. Basically you can't talk about anything. You just learn to keep your mouth shut. Future probably is female. I don't care. Men are a barbarian only race for the most part. We'll be important again one day. A couple world wars to go, another dark age, and then we'll be off fighting four legged rage apes on alien worlds.

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Who cut your balls, mate? It was embarrassing to read.

What those t american pink hair woketars dont understand is that there are other countries in the world beside USA. And they are not ill with woke-decease. They dont follow its insane rules. And when majority on men in USA will turn into woke-submissive betas like you - they will attack US and there will be no one to protect it. They will just scream wrong pronounce and purple haired american soldiers and they run away crying. screaming from being offended. Then those countries will set their own rules and all those woke idiots will just follow it. Because when they will yell - they will be put in prisons and keys will be thrown away.

That is your "female future".

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I tell ya. If it's anything other than white/male, some idiot-ass is complaining.

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Oscars so white would like to disagree. And so would Survivor.

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And so would Australia.
I just remembered that we had a "White Australia Policy" that was in full effect well into the 50's. Can you imagine the amount of crying that would still be going on if the US had an official "White America Policy" all through to the 50's . 60's and was only fully abandoned in the 70's.
The vast majority of Australians born in the 60's would have grown up and would be well into their teens before seeing a PoC IRL (not including aborigines that is). My primary and high school was 100% white (not even any Indians) and I myself was nearly 20 before I saw my first African (be it African or African American) IRL and I distinctly remember staring at their hair for what was probably a rude amount of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zb8yLammA0

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