All of the charges were misdemeanors on which the statute of limitations had run out. But they could bring the charges if there was an "underlying crime" which would turn those misdemeanors into felonies.
What was the underlying crime?
I see you're struggling with accepting Trump's 34 felony convictions. Where did you go to law school? Here, have a tissue. π§»
shareYeah, I can't answer the question, either.
PS: Those 34 counts were all misdemeanors on which the statute of limitations had run out. They're claiming an underlying crime that makes them felonies instead of misdemeanors. What is the underlying crime.
See? I'll even give you a second chance to answer the question!π
He's a pos that doesn't have the answer. That's why he can only respond with attempts at ridicule and ad hominem attacks.
shareAw... You're really upset that the orange shitgibbon is now a convicted felon. Here, have a tissue. π€£ππ»You are very stupid. Be honest. How much money have you sent to Trump?
shareIs that all you can ever respond with, that is, this repetitive loop you've ensnared yourself with, you fuckin' deranged idiot? ππ
shareI am deranged. So what? At least I'm not as stupid as you. Explain exactly why you worship Trump who is a 34 times convicted felon? Be honest. How much money have you sent to Trump?
shareSo you admit to being deranged. While you're at it, why not admit to being an atheist in bed with the Roman Catholic Church, which makes so much sense? After all, it was instrumental in smuggling post WW2 Nazi war criminals into South America.
shareI am an atheist and I don't believe in any of your gods. So what? Why does that trigger you? The rest of your comment is just pure bullshit ππ©
shareAn admitted, deranged atheist. Isn't that similar to "a convicted felon"?
Btw, I don't believe in "gods", you fuckin' ignoramus.
https://i.postimg.cc/765XGgnk/triggered.gif π€£
Explain exactly what you mean by comparing being an atheist to a convicted felon? Your stupidity and gullibility is astounding.
Why are you worshiping Trump who is a 34 times convicted felon? Be honest. How much money have you sent to Trump? You know Trump's private jet doesn't refill itself. You claim to be a good Christian so why do you worship Trump who thinks religious people are stupid? Trump is a known athiest and he is definitely not the messiah you claim he is.
Point out to me where I claimed to be "a good Christian" you lying pos. And alleging that I claimed he is "the Messiah" is the ultimate in false accusations.
For that matter, I don't worship Trump, another presumptuous, false allegation. I've always seen him as the lesser of two evils, creep.
But as I've consistently pointed out, this is the style of those of your ilk. You can't argue logically and with truth, so you resort to cheap, lowlife tactics such as this. The entire Democratic Party is in desperation mode. The ultimate irony and smackdown will occur in November if it finds itself defeated by a "convicted felon" in the White House. π
π€£ππ»That's a nice little rant you have here. Have a tissue. Feel better now? I know it must be uncomfortable for you to be so stupid and continue to worship a 34 times convicted felon. I can't wait to see what Trump's next 3 trials will bring. Keep crying, Goober. I need your tears to salt my french fries! π
https://i.postimg.cc/765XGgnk/triggered.gif
Oh, because I referred to your completely false allegations in a mostly civil manner as untrue, it's considered to be "a rant." You just reinforced my argument, dumb shit. There are other posters here that can see through your deceitful shit, just like I can, and like millions of other Americans that can see that what just happened to Trump was just plain un-American
And btw, fuck you and your veteran status. I normally respect it because I grew up in a military family, my dad was a 2-tour veteran of Vietnam and I also had an uncle who died at Normandy. With you, I don't give a shit. I also don't give a shit if you refer to this response as a rant. You're a chickenshit, ass-kisser who thinks of one of the worst presidents in this country's history as Commander in Chief, when he clearly doesn't deserve that mantle.
Keep sniveling, Goober. I would be upset too if I spent my life worshiping a 34 times convicted felon. Haha! Now go fuck yourself. Just so you know I didn't read one word of your latest rant. You spent lots of time creating your post to no avail. You are a retard. Seek help.
shareSure, liar! That's why you're reacting to it so vehemently. I was able to face your garbage and respond. Why couldn't you, coward?
shareIt blows my mind that people like you exist. All the while reading your comments I just wonder to myself if you're a grown up? Are you a man or a woman? What's your background? What kind of parents did you have? How were you brought up?
I'd be really curious to see a psychiatric evaluation done of fucks like you. Every so often I run into a loser like you shamelessly hurling your vile insults and displaying such a level of smugness and arrogance... all in anonymity of course... and then you tell the other guy to seek help!
I don't know, maybe you have some redeeming qualities in real life but if you're anything remotely close to how you conduct yourself on here then you're just a straight up piece of shit. I just thought you should know that.
You are just another stupid and gullible Trump supporter who worships a convicted criminal. I almost feel sorry for you. Did you send money to Trump? I bet you did. But Trump needs your money because his private jet doesn't refill itself. π€£ππ»
shareWell I hope you're just a kid... lot of growing up to do pal.
I am not a Trump supporter but I do support him in this witch hunt and in the presidential race if the alternative is what it is. Vivek would have been my first choice and I might even put RFK above Trump yet.
You keep on saying "statute of limitations". But I don't think you know what that means.
https://www.newsweek.com/has-statute-limitations-run-out-stormy-daniels-payment-depends-how-you-count-opinion-1789338
Do you care what the crimes were? It's easy enough to read about it and there are several other "what were the crime" posts here. If you claim you don't know, then you don't want to know
shareWhy do you think the statute of limitations had run out when you have no idea what the limitations were?
Trump's crime was fraud. Get used to it. https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/P3TKA175
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.05
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the second degree
when, with intent to defraud, he:
1. Makes or causes a false entry in the business records of an
enterprise; or
2. Alters, erases, obliterates, deletes, removes or destroys a true
entry in the business records of an enterprise; or
3. Omits to make a true entry in the business records of an enterprise
in violation of a duty to do so which he knows to be imposed upon him by
law or by the nature of his position; or
4. Prevents the making of a true entry or causes the omission thereof
in the business records of an enterprise.
Falsifying business records in the second degree is a class A
misdemeanor.
Thank you.
shareThat's a clerical error, which is a misdemeanor. They sliced it up 34 ways, "dressed it in a tuxedo," as Trey Gowdy said, and called it a felony. You still don't know what the underlying crime was.
I just looked it up, and falsifying business records in the second degree is just a misdemeanor, not a felony. Why are you and most others here pretending not to understand this? There had to be an underlying crime to make them felonies. I'll help you -- Some people are saying the underlying crime was election interference. But they didn't prove that as intent. The judge actually told the jury they didn't have to believe the underlying crime to convict on the 34 counts. That's why some people are saying the judge basically gave, as instructions to the jury, a "road map to conviction."
It's so crooked that they'll win on appeal -- maybe not the first appeal if it goes to the NY court of appeals -- but that's not the point. The point is so Biden, the MSM, The View, MSNBC and CNN can repeat "convicted felon Donald Trump" like a mantra. They think that'll make people not want to vote for him. I think it'll likely harden his base and the anger of the people who could see this trial was crooked.
The polls ought to be interesting! ππΏ
Yes, we know it is a misdemeanor. The prosecution spelled out what the underlying crime was. Were you paying attention? The link I posted spelled out why it was a felony, did you read it?
It is the judge's job to give roadmaps to conviction and acquittal. That is how the judge assists the jury while they do their duty as citizens. Your post is extremely naive at best. I have a hard time believing you are so stupid. It is easier to believe that you are trying to mislead us instead.
Naw, the point to this whole thing was to just convict another stupid criminal who thought they were above the law. Remember, if they can do this to Trump. they can do it to everyone else who violates the law.
The link I posted spelled out why it was a felony
Trump was convicted of 34 felonies so you are stupid because you worship a criminal. What happened to the law and order party you Trump supporting morons claim to belong too?
share§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
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It reminds me of Bugs Bunny explaining to one of the other characters, "And you know it's true, because it is a fact." Ranb would then swoop in and say, "See! That proves it!"
Trump should have hired you as his attorney because you think you know the law more than the prosecutor . Trump was convicted of 34 felonies and that will never change. You are dumb and that sound you hear is everyone laughing at you. π€£ππ»
shareNot the ones who are trying to answer the unanswered question in the link. They realize there was no case.
Alvin Bragg did what he campaigned on. First, he had a laundry list of crimes he promised he wouldn't even prosecute, but by gum, he was going to get Trump. So he did, and people who hate Trump so much they can't see the obvious just call anyone "dumb" when they ask a question they can't answer.
Here's other questions you can't answer -- why was "Stormy Daniels" allowed to go into so much X-rated detail when it didn't have anything to do with the case? Why were all of the prosecution's objections sustained, but all of the defense objections overruled?
Don't tell me -- I'm dumb! That's your answer. π
Good grief -- you don't even know what an answer is.
Okay then. Keep wasting your time with worshiping Trump who is a 34 times convicted felon. That's why you're dumb.
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[β] Destinata (2739) 2 hours ago
Why were all of the prosecution's objections sustained, but all of the defense objections overruled?
Well, the state decides what the laws are. Sucks to be Trump.
shareAnd that's a bit of truth.
We used to be a free country where laws were written by our elected representatives, and signed by the elected president and judged by the courts to see if they were constitutional.
NOw? NOw the state just decides shit and changes shit and makes up shit, to get the end result they want.
Statue of limitations ran out? Just say some words and pretend it didn't.
NOt sure what the underlying crime is? We don't need to know, it could be one of three possible crimes, just vote guilty.
Is "decides shit" the words you use in place of "writing bills and passing legislation that is signed into law by a governor"?
Tell me more about this statute of limitations and why it is an absolute that cannot be worked around legally. I think you read some BS on a stupid website then forgot that it might be BS.
I knew what the underlying crime was. I posted a link above. You can go on telling us you're too stupid to understand. It's fine by me.
1. No, I understand the concept of statue of limitations from when I studied the bill of rights in high school. It was a tool of tyrants to bring up charges from many years ago, that would be difficult or impossible to have a fair trial about, and put people in prison, supposedly for the crime, but really for the political reasons of the tyrants.
2. ONly so much of that shit I can stomach. Please cut and paste the bit where the prosecution specifics what the crime is.
So? NY has their own statue of limitations. Tell us about that and why Trump was immune, or not.
I have already posted what the underlying crime was, in this thread, up above. I really think you're just jerking my chain now. Unless you start to make some better sense, I'm just going to ignore you.
1. Because the statue of limitations ran out. That is why they "folded" into a bigger charge.
2. I get it. It is hard to admit that the prosecution that you are supporting so hard, never specified what the crime was. Makes it really hard to defend.
" when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."
and what was the other crime Trump was intending ?
The link I posted spelled out why it was a felony, did you read it?
Ive just read it , it said this:
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A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
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So what is the "another crime" that DJT intended to commit or conceal?
It came out at the trial. Election interference.
share"Election interference."
Then the Manhattan DA, Biden's campaign and maybe even Biden himself are guilty of that because that's what that sham trial was about. Talk about a conspiracy...sheesh! π But it seems to have had the opposite effect, increasing the possibility that Trump will get reelected. It's the typical, hypocritical, pot-calling-the-kettle black bullshit with the Democrats.
Fine by me. Who is going to push for prosecuting him?
Trump washed his hands of pushing for any prosecution of politicians for anything at all when he backed down like a little bitch from his promise to put Clinton in prison.
I think GOP voters are less likely to vote for Trump now. At least one poll says so. But polls are a poor indicator of who will win, like in 2020. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-verdict-makes-significant-number-154708393.html
Oh, so Trump was "a little bitch" for being merciful and just by not using his power to try to jail Clinton. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth again. According to your twisted thinking then, anyone involved in the prosecution side of this case is "a little bitch." Ok, I can accept that, especially when it applies to Robert De Niro. π
shareYes, Trump was being a little bitch for not following through with his promise to put her in prison for her crimes. Why should Trump be merciful to a person that was characterized as a criminal and caused the death of Americans?
Did Clinton actually deserve Trump's mercy?
LOL!
shareHe tried to pay off a hooker to keep quiet and he used all sorts of trickery to hide it, which was fraudulent. If he had just paid her off and wrote it as a straight business expense, it wouldnβt have been illegal.
Despite this, I think the convictions are going to help Trump politically. This will galvanize the Republican voters during an election year where Democrat voters arenβt really that fond of Joe Biden.
Dumb shit! You fell for it. It was repeatedly mentioned during the trial that NDAs (Non Disclosure Agreement) otherwise referred to as "hush money" by the media in this sham trial, because it's more salacious, attention grabbing. Also mentioned was that they're not only legal, but also commonplace in the business world.
shareThe underlying crime was either to subvert and violate federal campaign finance limits (what Michael Cohen was incarcerated for and admitted), unlawfully influencing the 2016 U.S. presidential election, committing tax fraud, or any combination of the three. That was easy... I can't understand how so many morons here have gone off on tangents instead of answering the question.
If DJT would be more forthcoming, we may get a clearer picture, but he has instead pled not guilty with the pretense of this being a kangaroo court. He's always a victim, even though this is a relatively minor charge (particularly compared to the other cases!) and nobody would fault him too much for such white collar victimless crimes. He's shameless and doesn't know the value of redemption.
Hope Hicks, his special assistant, I believe it was, testified that Trump said he was glad the Stormy Daniels thing came out later instead of on the heels of the Access Hollywood tape in October 2016, which would result in his electoral defeat. He's such an idiot. All he had to do was pretend to all around him, particularly the women in his employ, that he was ashamed of his actions in 2006 and can't hurt Melania. If he did this, the "underlying crime" would be non-existant and Hope Hicks could be a witness for the defense, even, in a misdemeanor charge. Instead, he is so prideful, boastful and entitled, he can only think about how his actions will affect his bid for the presidency, meaning the felony charge of falsifying the records to unlawfully influencing the 2016 election was warranted and pursued by counsel. He's right that he would have lost, too. Anti-porn Evangelicals would rightfully abandon Trump in favor of Hillary Clinton, a proud Methodist Christian, who walks a narrow, righteous path. He cheated, or attempted to cheat, in both 2016 and 2020... now confirmed.
Pfft, I'm sure he'll be an upstanding candidate in 2024!
"The underlying crime was either to subvert and violate federal campaign finance limits"
Really? what is the campaign finance limit?
The DA was able to prove to the jury, using the testimony of former Trump loyalists (particularly Michael Cohen, who already served 36 months jail time for his part of the crime) that DJT admitted on a number of occasions that he just doesn't get elected in 2016 if the Stormy Daniels story got out. He barely got elected to begin with, and by all accounts didn't think he would. Nobody did.
What this means is that when Cohen wrote a check for $130,000 of his own money at Trump's direction to silence the porn star, it was the equilivant to writing a person-to-person check to a presidential candidate for that amount. Other testimony helped build a case that the accused even acknowledged that this carried him over the finish line. The limit for such a donation is only a few thousand dollars. It can be unlimited using PACs (Political Action Committees) which is usually how big donors help fund campaigns, but that is certainly not what Cohen did.
All this, and then the falsification of records to hide these expenses, also means that Trump and co. knew they were engaging in fraud, and didn't want anyone to know the nature of these "legal fees."
I'm a center-left Democrat, and while most Biden supporters are celebrating the verdict, there really is no reason to get excited. It tarnishes the Executive office. It's a blemish on American history. And it's perfectly clear that Trump is actually campaigning on this issue because he knows his cult (and many of those on the fence) have a victimhood and inferiority complex which he hopes to exploit. Everytime he says "unfair" and "rigged," the crybaby tantrum voters feel like he's a kindred spirit.
Really, though, he's using everyone to be his whipping boy... the same as he did with Michael Cohen. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. He doesn't even care about Melania and his family, otherwise he would have said, "I paid off Stormy so Melania and Barron wouldn't find out" and the case would've never went to trial, and most probably Cohen would have avoided prison, too. They may have only got charged with misdemeanors for falsifying business records.
I have never heard this logic applied to hush money ever. (ie that it is equivilent to a campaign donation).
iF this is a... crime that was invented just for Trump, then it is unfair.
I just said that Trump is likely playing the legal system to his advantage as a high profile campaign tactic. Otherwise, he's off the airwaves. His rallies don't make news anymore. His bullying, fornicating, and corruption shock no one anymore. He's transparent. He's the rigger. He's after himself. He didn't even testify in his own defense, nor his wife, nor anyone to suggest that the hush money was anything other than a path to victory. Any rebuttal witness to counter Hope Hicks and David Pecker, especially himself, would likely result in a hung jury. He didn't try a plea deal to confess to misdemeanors, because then the press coverage is over after a couple of 24hr news cycles.
He wanted to be arrested. He wanted a lengthy high profile trial. He wanted to say "rigged" and "unfair." He wanted sympathy from usually unlikely voters with prior criminal entanglements. He wanted big headlines. And he wanted to blame the whole thing on "crooked Joe Biden."
The Biden campaign is wise to all this, too. It's the reason Hunter Biden films himself snorting cocaine with a hooker, and has pending gun charges. The Republicans are "trying to kill" him. Poor Hunter! The Biden's can play the same game too, but without actually diminishing the Executive office. Hunter's trial is up next. DJT expects loyalty, but he can't get it because even those close to him don't actually respect him or his narcissistic ways. Hunter, meanwhile, will obviously fall on a bullet for the old man, because they are people of love, character, values and personal & professional sacrifice.
Those are the kinds of people who should be representing Americans in public service, whether in high levels, or as civil servant "Deep Staters." lmao
My question was about the justification for the felony, ie that it is equivilent to a campaign donation, and whether or not ANYONE ELSE has EVER been held to this... interpretation of ... ... what? the word?
I have never heard of this... concept before.
Let me ask you, if this is UNIQUE to Trump, would you still support it?
Because, making up a new legal concept, just to have an excuse to railroad a political enemy... That's BANANA REPUBLIC time, that's CLOWN WORLD.
That would be a complete violation of his due process rights. And the rights of all of his supporters to have a free and fair election.
This response is completely irrelevant. What don't you understand? I laid it all out. It's strategy. "Banana Republic" is the GOP talking point of this election season, not the Democratic Party talking point. I'm a Democrat.
In order to use this term... someone has to face penalties. It's not President Joe Biden railroading a political enemy... but the MAGA campaign that you, as a voter, are apt to support will lap that shit up and ask for seconds if your reality star candidate says the "Biden's Deep State" is out to get him.
You seem to think that I worship at the altar of DA Alvin Bragg, and I need to stand firm on his righteousness. Or the judge. These guys probably have more in common with Trump than they have with President Biden. Bragg is only nurturing his own ambitions to convict. He'll probably be in the history books, bigly, as the most famous District Attorney of all time! It was obvious that the Trump legal team wasn't actually going to contest the charges, despite their plea, because they *want* the show trial and eventual "guilty" result as a campaign platform.
I want to talk more about Hunter Biden's gun charges. Guns, guns, guns. Democrats love guns. Me too, as a former member of a Naval Weapons Department. We need them because Trump wants to take our guns. Republicans are "trying to kill" Hunter. He should be allowed to protect himself against crazy MAGA.
1. Trump did not control the dems to come up with novel, never before heard excuse for a prosecution.
2. I agree teh dems and their media allies are using the tabloid elements of the Hunter Binded case to distract from the real question of the case, ie, why did all of those foriegn businessmen give millions and millions of dollars to the Joe Biden's son. BUT, that the dems are using sleazy tactics, does not mean that Trump is too.
Corbell, again?! Why can't it ever be Keelai or someone?! You do realize we're not actually having a conversation, right? I'm just laying everything out for the lurkers who want a glimpse behind the curtain of our political age. I have no interest in discussing civics with someone with such a simplistic worldviews and rampant guillibility. Imagine conceptualizing Donald Trump as a person averse to using "sleazy tactics." I nearly spit my coffee all over the laptop I'm using (which was gifted to me by Hunter) when I read that.
So... the Hunter Biden "influence peddling" story? As a Democrat, I love it! I especially love how reeking of desperation it is, and how it will reflect so poorly on House Republicans in a historical context. Hell, I'll even link to all the whole timeline, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Oversight_Committee_investigation_into_the_Biden_family) as there's no way to perse this without coming to the conclusion that it was all political theatrics. Much ado about nothing. I'd certainly call it a "novel prosecution" if I ever heard one, albeit one that didn't and couldn't possibly result in making him or his father a CONVICTED FELON of a white collar persuasion. Do you remember when the GOP tried to hold Hunter, a private citizen, in contempt of Congress for agreeing to testify, but only if it was held publicly and on-the-record? :Bellylaugh: Oh, I ache! Disgraceful! Rigged, I tell you.
Plus, everyone knew Joe Biden was retiring from public and political life in 2016, as we all expected and welcomed the ascendancy of Madame Hillary, the pandemic slayer. I bet she would have been on the phone with Anthony Fauci to navigate the situation as soon as that first case of COVID hit King County, Washington. Probably knew him personally and had dinner with his family. She probably could have saved my favorite buffet-style restaurant, Sweet Tomatoes, from going out of business along with so many others, and hundreds of thousands of lives.
Do you know what you'd be saying when she did?! That she and Fauci weaponized the Department of Health and Human Services to win reelection. lmao
1.The statue of limitations is a law clarifying the RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRAIL. By trashign that, you are AGAIN, moving the DEM PARTY even more into the anti-human rights position and Tyranny position.
2. Why did all those foreign businessmen give Hunter Biden millions of dollars?
like Corbell said , thats a real stretch and certainly a minor technicality hardly worth bring to court given the so many other ways that exactly the same thing could have happened and been legal / ok
If he'd have used this PAC it would be OK
If he said it was for his wife it would be OK
If he used his own money presumably it would then not be a donation , and be ok?
Seeing as he paid Cohen back how was it a "donation" anyway?
If Donald had been a better fraudster he might have gotten away with it. Or "it would have been OK" in other words.
if the Don was a democrat then no one would care.
shareNo one?
You know when you have to say things that everyone reading knows that you know isn't true, it's not the burn you think it is.
Its really hard to tell what they think is true though .
Some of them claim to "know" that democrats did a secret deal with China to cause a worldwide pandemic to make Donald look bad
... and 2020 rigged
... and Hunters briefcase contains Marcellus' soul.
Lock her up!
Set him free!
Data from the National Institutes of Health shows that the agency and its scientists collected as much as $710 million during the pandemic over two years. This is a staggering amount. Until now, the institute concealed this information, but Anthony Fauci, one of the leading infectious disease experts, will now have to explain.
dems still believe the 2016 election was stolen
Joe said he would lose the 2020 election by chicanery
Hillary said Russia will hijack the 2024 election
Obama said that our elections are unhackable
"dems still believe the 2016 election was stolen"
you cant possibly think thats true!
ask any dem on this site what they think about 2016
its true, its true!
Mueller concluded that Trump won fair and square.
#Trumpwon
He sure did. Not a single person on any side is disputing that.
(despite what Hilary may have said in the past)
yup, I am just glad that Mueller also investigated the 2020 election. oh wait, did that happen yet? what about the chicanery?
shareHillary. 'What Happened?'π€£https://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/dp/1501175564 Not unlike O.J Simpson's, 'If I Did It.'
shareShoulda called it "How I managed to lose to a Chump"
The underlying crime was either to subvert and violate federal campaign finance limits (what Michael Cohen was incarcerated for and admitted), unlawfully influencing the 2016 U.S. presidential election, committing tax fraud, or any combination of the three. That was easy... I can't understand how so many morons here have gone off on tangents instead of answering the question.
Throw mud and see what sticks eh?
which one of the three was it and in what way was that law broken or concealed?
"Throw mud and see what sticks eh?"
Yeah, that's how it played out. A great movie and accurate depiction of the world we live in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJFAwMWE5uw
Thank you lemminGPT.
shareIt was never identified. The judge let the jurors make up their own minds on what "crime" Trump may or may not have committed while appropriating the expenses for tax expenses. He didn't even require them to agree on what that alleged crime might be.
Assuming it was true, if they can "trump" up a single misdemeanor clerical error into 34 felonies against THE PRESIDENt OF THE UNITED STATES, imagine what they could do to you or me.
they will just kill us instead of wasting money for court on us.
shareYeah, the judge allowing the jurors to make up their own minds on what crime Trump may or may not have committed is really the prosecution proving its case beyond a reasonable, isn't it? π What a farce!
Re the jury, a very insightful, worthwhile watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=094ALihcXWQ
To answer you directly, though:
The underlying crimes that Trump was trying to conceal were: violation of federal campaign finance limits, violation of state election laws by unlawfully influencing the 2016 election, and violation of state tax laws regarding the reimbursement.
Trump could have moved to allow the jury to convict on a misdemeanor, but they did not. I guess they wanted to go for a clean acquittal and not have any guilty charge in his criminal record.
I don't understand the crime either. I read the list of charges. None of it made any sense to me. It is ambiguous and kind of stupid. I didn't even know there was a law for whatever the courts said that Trump did.
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