The worse are the double ads that play after another. Like enough already. I just want to watch the video.
--Michael D. Clarke
yeah.... they've worked up ways to make adblockers not work also. maybe in the near future a newer one will work. meanwhile, way pay for all that free content. oh well. got my finger on the SKIP button after the countdown
shareTHOSE ADS ARE HOW THE CREATORS GET PAID...NO ADS...NO VIDEOS.
shareThat’s their problem, not ours. It’s not our job to pay them. My job is to keep my computer free from the viruses and spyware that they are trying to install on our computer.
While we are we on the subject though, YouTube has no problems letting smaller channels create videos for free until they get popular enough to be deemed worthy of ads. They also have no problems demonitizing people as a punishment. But I’m supposed to feel guilty about running Adblock on my own computer? Fuck out of here.
LMAO...NO ADS...NO VIDEOS...WE ALL ENJOY WELL MADE VIDEOS...THE MAKERS NEED TO BE PAID...IT IS OUR PROBLEM...IF WE WANT CONTENT.
shareThat’s total bullshit. YouTube became a business worth 29 Billion even with everyone running ad blockers. There is no real threat of the videos stopping because of ad blockers, there isn’t even any evidence of it, since the Platform is still growing. It’s just corporate greed.
shareTHE BETTER THE VIDEOS THE MORE THEY COST TO MAKE...ADS PROVIDE REVENUE TO THE CREATORS...SURE IT STILL WORKS IF SOME PEOPLE SKIP THE ADS...BUT IT DOES NOT WORK IF TOO MANY PEOPLE DO IT...I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOUTUBE CONTENT CREATORS...MINUS THAT AD REVENUE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO MAKE VIDEOS FOR YOU...MOST NOT IN THAT UPPER TIER STILL HAVE DAY JOBS.
shareSo your friends have day jobs, and their videos aren’t monetized, yet they are still doing it.
Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument of no ads, no videos.
THAT ISN'T WHAT I SAID AT ALL...WHEN DID I SAY THEY ARE NOT MONETIZED?...WHY ARE YOU BEING SO INTENTIONALLY DENSE?
shareI KNOW A COUPLE OF YOUTUBE CONTENT CREATORS...MINUS THAT AD REVENUE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO MAKE VIDEOS FOR YOU...MOST NOT IN THAT UPPER TIER STILL HAVE DAY JOBS.
LOL
share" YouTube became a business worth 29 Billion "
the ads pay the content creators , its very simple.
you justify it how how you want but at the end of the day you are stealing from the creative people who make those videos , no two ways about it.
Yep, and you can keep simping for a business that just sees you as a source of revenue. They won’t give a fuck when your data gets compromised in a breech, or when their spyware affects your computer
I think I’ll protect my own interest, and I won’t feel a shred of guilt about it.
you could do that by not visiting the site at all
I would think that would hurt them even more. Is is just about ads? Don’t views, liking and subscribing, general traffic to site still help? I’ve never heard a content creator suggest this as an alternative.
But again my own interest are my priority, so I will just continue to watch, and block ads when possible.
Yeah I'm not following your argument. People need to get paid in order to keep doing whatever it is they do, in this case it's producing content for YouTube. Running ads on their videos is how they get paid.
Maybe one day we'll live in a post-scarcity, Star Trek-like society where financial compensation is no longer a requirement and we can all pursue our likes and interests, ad free. But for the time being we're stuck with ads.
Also, YouTube premium is about $15 a month and gets rid of all the ads while ensuring creators get paid. I've had it since it rolled out and it's totally worth it.
I HAD YOUTUBE PREMIUM ONCE...IT WAS COOL...I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AGAIN...I ALSO WANT MORE MONEY...SO...I WILL PROBABLY KEEP WATCHING ADS.
shareLOL I want more money too, lot's more. I've actually been thinking about getting rid of Premium lately since I haven't been watching YouTube as much lately.
shareALI AND I HAVE A LONG SUBSCRIPTION LIST WE HAVE BUILT TOGETHER...LOTS OF MOVIE,RETRO,RESELLING,TOY AND MUSIC CHANNELS...WE SPEND A FEW HOURS EVERY EVENING CATCHING UP ON OUR VIDEOS WHEN HER HOMEWORK IS DONE...SOME CHANNELS HAVE BECOME SO MONUMENTAL TO US...WE OWN ALL OF THE ANGRY VIDEO GAME NERD'S WORK ON BLU-RAY...WE USE REDLETTERMEDIA AS BACKGROUND PROGRAMMING CONSTANTLY...BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THEM ALL MULTIPLE TIMES....TODAY IS MONDAY...NEW HACK THE MOVIES...I LOOK FORWARD TO MONDAY ALL WEEK JUST FOR THAT VIDEO.
shareMy argument first and foremost is that it’s not my problem how YouTube pays their content creators. Im just there to consume a product, I’m not obligated to do anything. My own internet security, and viewing experience are my priority.
They don’t need to get paid at all. If that were the case, YouTube would start paying people based on what they produce, and not how popular they are. There are a lot of people working their asses off on YouTube, and they don’t even make money from it. No one is entitled to get paid, and again it’s not my problem.
That sounds like a bit of a contradiction. If the ads are so important to the content creators, then why are you allowed to pay to block them? If I block them I’m somehow hurting content creators, but apparently 15 dollars make it’s ok. Lol
That sounds like a bit of a contradiction. If the ads are so important to the content creators, then why are you allowed to pay to block them? If I block them I’m somehow hurting content creators, but apparently 15 dollars make it’s ok. Lol
They don’t need to get paid at all. If that were the case, YouTube would start paying people based on what they produce, and not how popular they are.
A percentage of the monthly fee goes to the content creators, in lieu of the ad revenue they would have normally received. This is distinctly different from using an adblocker. Therefore, yes, $15 fee makes it ok, and that distinction should be abundantly clear.
I prefer the current model where creators are self-employed and generate income from ads and sponsorships. We seem to disagree on this, and that's fine.
Im just there to consume a product, I’m not obligated to do anything.
just like when you see all those apples outside the grocery shop on display in racks - you're not obligated to go inside and pay for them are you ?
they should have put them inside , behind the counter, if thats what they want
That’s a really bad comparison. In fact I’d say it’s comparing apples to oranges.
Apples are a physical product, and they have a price tag. I can look, touch and smell them, but if I want to eat one, it has a price to pay. There is no way to compare it to watching YouTube videos.
Also the fact that you are trying to compare it to theft is laughable, because YouTube is a free website, and even if it wasn’t, it’s not the same thing. Try again.
so exactly the same as when you torrent a movie then ? - not a physical thing .
you arnt entitled to that product unless you pay the price.
the price in this case is watch some adverts , or sit through them not watching
It’s definitely closer to that, since there is no physical loss, but it’s still not the same. A torrent is an illegal reproduction.
A YouTube video is the official source, and there is no implied payment, unless it’s a movie or something. YouTube is implying that adblockers violate their tos, but its bs, because you don’t need to agree to their tos to watch videos, and there is no indication of what videos have ads, so we could choose not to click on them.
So all it would take is youtube to pop up a little message saying
"Yes , we do want you to watch the ads , thats the deal , click here to proceed " and you'd change you mind?
That is what they are doing now, which is what I assumed was the reason for the topic. They are trying to block ad blockers. You get a pop up for 2 videos, and then it attempts to make you turn it off.
shareyeah they've made it pretty clear what they want .
It was a shock for me too , i was using a blocker which they've now outsmarted , i wasnt as guilt free about it though . I'm in two minds wether to persue other methods
They can’t claim ad blockers violate their tos when you don’t need to agree to their tos to view the site. Their tos only applies to your YouTube account. Until they actually prevent you from accessing the site without an account, like what Facebook does, they can’t enforce this. There are already work arounds, and some ad blockers are adjusting.
shareALL VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE CAN HAVE ADS...AND ALL CREATORS WITH OVER 1000 SUBSCRIBERS AND 4000 HOURS OF CONTENT ARE MONETIZED AND GET PAID THROUGH AD REVENUE.
shareThat’s literally a cut and paste of the first result on google when you looked it up.
https://www.simplilearn.com/youtube-monetization-tips-on-how-to-monetize-your-channel-article#:~:text=Prove%20you're%20following%20YouTube's,need%20at%20least%201%2C000%20subscribers
And you’ve defeated your own argument again, since you just said that any video with under 1000 subscribers, or 4000 hours of watch time aren’t even eligible. That information isn’t even even available until you click the video. I don’t think videos have access to channel watch time at all.
Also not every video that falls in to that range is monetized. YouTube demonetizes videos based on content, and also uses demonetization as a punishment. Have you ever heard a YouTuber refer to rape as grape? Or suicide as deletion? They trying not to get demonized The only way to tell is when a video is demonetized, without the author crying about it is to click the video and look for ads.
Here is an example. 1.5 million subscribers, and there are no ads on their videos.
https://www.youtube.com/live/8a_lMA4L_PU?si=_3nVArZI_pH21b-E
So no, not all YouTube videos are monetized.
I DID NOT SAY THAT ALL YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE MONETIZED...I SAID ALL YOUTUBE VIDEOS HAVE ADS...OTHER THAN YOUTUBE CALLS...ONLY CONTENT CREATORS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA...GET A PIECE OF THE AD REVENUE...I LISTED THE BASIC BEATS...NOT THE WHOLE LIST...BUT YOU ARE BEING INTENTIONALLY DENSE ABOUT EVERYTHING.
shareHere is another cut and paste just in case you try to edit it.
ALL VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE HAVE ADS...
That policy change says that YouTube can monetize any video, or does not say that it will monetize all videos. The article is 3 years old, so if they were doing this, it would be obvious.
But since you brought it is this policy is nothing but corporate greed, and another reason to block ads.
THREE YEARS AGO THEY STARTED....WHICH MEANS BY NOW THEY ARE ALL OVER IT...JUST BECAUSE THE CREATOR ISN'T ABLE TO MAKE MONEY ON THEIR VIDS DOESN'T MEAN YOUTUBE WON'T.
CORPORATE GREED IS OFTEN SAID WHEN JUST SMART BUSINESS IS THE ACTUAL EVENT HAPPENING...YOUTUBE IS A BUSINESS...THEIR GOAL IS TO MAKE MONEY.
SO YES...BLOCKING ADS WILL TAKE NICKELS OUT OF YOUTUBES POCKET...BUT IT ALSO TAKES NICKELS OUT OF THE CRATORS WHOSE VIDEOS YOU ENJOYS POCKETS AS WELL.
You are trying to argue something that is easily fact checked. No, they don't run ads on every video. You claim is false.
Corporate greed is is often said when a corporation tries implement anti consumer practices at the expense of their user base in order to squeeze out a few nickles from them, when they are making money hand over fist. I'm obviously a fan of youtube, and I want to see it do well. But it's already a business worth 29 Billion, and it's growing. So why should I be ok with them ruining my user experience in order to get a few more pennies out of me? Unless you own youtube stock, I don't know why anyone would be cheering on these anti consumer practices.
Here is monetized video to let you know exactly how I feel about a 29 billion dollar corporation losing nickels.
https://youtu.be/14K6KtBlusY?si=KGbWGXfX4NVJlIKO&t=47
NO...EVERY VIDEO IS FAIR GAME FOR ADS...AS IN EVERY VIDEO COULD HAVE ADS...AS IN YOUTUBE HAS THE ABILITY AND RIGHT TO THROW ADS ON ANY AND EVERY VIDEO....SO YES...EVERY VIDEO HAS ADS...MINUS THE ONES THAT YOUTUBE DEEMS UNWORTHY OF ADS DUE TO CONTENT OR WHATEVER.
LMAO...SO...ARE WE GOING STEADY NOW?....OR WHAT?🤔
This. There are ways to generate revenue without built-in ads.
shareThere is no use arguing with him, he likes two things a lot. Shitty generic studio movies, and tedious corporate greed.
The problem with the ads on youtube is that often they are very long. I’ve had ads with two hour runtimes popping up in the middle of a 20 minute video I want to watch. There is no way I’m not going to skip long ads like that. I grew up watching commercial TV and watch it to this day and the ads don’t bother me because each one is 15 to 30 seconds long. But there is a big difference between that and a two hour advertisement or even just a 20 minute advertisement.
shareI SKIP AD MYSELF ON THE REGULAR...IF IT IS A CONTENT CREATOR THAT I FEEL SERIOUS ABOUT SUPPORTING OR I AM JUST NOT IN A HURRY I WILL LET THE SHORTER ADS PLAY THOUGH.
shareI hate those damned things. Only place my ad-blockers work is on my PC. I don't have them for my tv's Roku or my phone, so I try and mute them or skip them as fast as possible. The ones I hate the most are the ones I can't skip. I'm not ready to pay $10 a month to make them go away just yet.
shareTry blocking all the ad servers on your firewall settings. Works perfectly for me.
shareI use ublock origin. I haven't seen an ad on Youtube in years, apart from the advertisements that Youtubers do for their sponsors within their own videos. I just skip over those. Ublock is also doing a great job of getting around Youtube's ban on ad-blockers.
shareI was using ublock. Seems like this is a gradual roll out as it was blocking fine on some systems while failing on others. But Eventually they all stated failing to work on you tube.
shareI'm watching Youtube videos right now without any problem. Youtube has been trying to stop ublock, so I guess there have been periods of time where it hasn't worked before ublock gets updated to counter it, but it's working for me right now.
It's possible it might stop working entirely, but hopefully not. At this point I'm going to refuse to pay Youtube just out of spite. I really dislike how corporate the internet has been becoming over time, and I feel like a line needs to be drawn in the sand. So hopefully Youtube's efforts to crush ad-blockers will fail.
I was puzzled why it was working fine on some of my computers and not others - all with same blocker. It eventually reached them all over a months time.
I'm wondering if it is cookie related in someway, but don't care enough to deep dive that.
This is what pushed me into the arms of Spotify.
shareya but Spotify also has ads... in fact it seems they would purposely blast the ads at a way higher volume to destroy your ears
shareMy Spotify is ad free.
sharedo you pay?
shareI get it free as part of my Sky subscription.
shareoh nice. im not that much of an audiophile to care about spotify. if i need music its for the gym and i use youtube
shareI have a portable Marshall amp, which I take the the Beach Hut in the summer or on the patio of the Kingshed pub at the bottom of my garden.
I can then listen to whatever I like at my leisure; some of my playlists have 24 hours of music, so I never get bored.
yaa thats great i know lots of audiophiles who love it its all about your interests and even paying for it wouldnt be bad if someone a music lover. for me im not but i do pay for youtube
shareinteresting. I guess in that way, I use free music.youtube.com with ad blocker and never see ads
shareIsn't there a fee to pay for no YouTube ads??
shareI just open the link to anything I want to watch in a private window - no ads.
share