Totally unbiased Psychologist says "women are lonelier than ever as they struggle w expectations"
I don't trust him though. He is a filthy MAN. Know what I'm sayin'? MEN! Right?
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Yeah! I mean noooo! I mean, whatever you want to hear really.
shareWhat expectations ?
expecting the rich, taller, confident, attractive man to want her back.
guess what: we have wider selection available to us because of our attributes. what makes her special TO ME??
modern women are delusional SOMETIMES.
Often, really. :) Speaking from experience.
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[–] 123Guy (3983) 16 days ago
expecting the rich, taller, confident, attractive man to want her back.
guess what: we have wider selection available to us because of our attributes. what makes her special TO ME??
RICH?...TALL?...CONFIDENT?...ATTRACTIVE?...MAN?...YOU QUALIFY AS NONE OF THESE THINGS. NOEMOJI
Its simple math. 90% of women want the 1% of men. That doesn't equal out.
Fairytale fails, on the meds they go.
90% of women think they are in that top 1% of women. So they don’t think their demands are outrageous, it’s just what they deserve.
To be fair that is partially the fault of men. We’ve all gaslighted women into thinking they are better looking then are. The internet has only magnified this, and they conflate this attention with real interest.
truth 1000%. internet, likes, instagram, onlyfans, mass media.... what a mess.
as a guy, i don't see how it is our fault. we are attracted to the types we are attracted to... and that's it. If I was dating a 4, she could be the most beautiful girl TO ME, and I wouldn't be lying. Me telling her she is beautiful shouldn't mean in her ears she is a 10, but a 10 TO ME. I wouldn't be gaslighting, just honest how I felt.
It's good to have a positive self image, but we all need to keep it real.
Watched a thing talking about there is almost no upside for men to get married now: woman has your kid, then gets paid to take your kid away and trade up to a new guy with divorce, taking your money. That's quite a gamble for men: Maybe she WON'T divorce me. Stats don't paint a good gamble there.
Beauty is the eye of the beholder, that’s totally legit. Actually it’s probably ideal for most people to find someone that you would overrate vs the rest of society.
But that isn’t what I meant. Im talking about when’s she’s a 4, and you know she a 4, but you still think she’s doable, or there might be an opportunity, so you play the role, and tell her she is beautiful, make her feel special etc. until you either get what you want, or you lose interest. I think this leads to women over valuing their worth on the dating market.
ah, understood.
shareJust so you guys know, those girls don't really think they're beautiful, they've looked in a mirror and know the ugly truth. All the "I'm beautiful and self-confident" idiocy on social media is an attempt to build self-confidence, like a young man putting on a show of bravado and trying to act tough, because he's afraid.
But now that you know that, don't think that it means that these girls are ready to settle for a jerk like you! For one thing, men outnumber women on dating sites by at least 60:40 (if not 90:10), and they know they have a shot at men who are a bit out of their league. For another, a lot of young women really *have* grasped the fact that they're better off single than with a jerk, so they feel quite free to turn down all the jerks.
So the new reality for straight guys is that if they want a relationship, they can't afford to be a jerk! Not even to the unattractive girls.
The second half of your post illustrates problem pretty well. Yes Men outnumber women on dating sites. Yes women get attention from guys that are a bit out of their league. But that doesn't mean the men are settling for them either. They will have their fun with them or move on, or just keep looking for something better, but they will still play the role and them that they are beautiful, and special etc. Men may be easy to catch, but they are hard to hold on to.
This leads to women that think they have a higher value than they do, and they end up unhappy because they think they deserve the guys that are out of their league. All women have insecurities, that is a given. But I don't think most of them know the ugly truth, because the answer is never to do something different, it's to blame men, or the dating scene. How often do you hear that there is no one out there, or Men aren't shit? Yet the numbers are in their favor on the dating sites.
Also disagree on the last point. Too nice is boring, you have to at least have a little bit of an edge to you. Pick on them playfully, it keeps them on their toes.
What is too nice? What do you mean by edge?
There is this stigma that guys need to be jerks to have women interested in them. I don't think it's true. You can be nice, and exciting. I'm not going to assume I know what other women want, but I know I don't want a doormat. I don't want that in anyone I'm dating. But there is a big difference between being assertive and aggressive.
Re the "women don't like nice guys" thing: FYI there are only a few women who find genuinely nice men boring, mostly that complaint comes from straight male assholes whose pathetic attempts to fake niceness have been seen through. Seriously, sharing "nice guy horror stories" is big among young women on social media, have a look if you want some real insight into heterosexuality, the kind you don't get from straight men lying to each other!
And once you do that, you might be able to grasp my main point, which is that many young women are no longer willing to put up with jerks. They'd rather be single than be in a relationship that doesn't meet their needs.
No the complaint comes from guys that are genuinely nice to woman, only to get passed over, or friendzoned, while she moves on to some asshole. Very few women will actually tell you that that they have toxic dating habits. They may not even be aware of it. But what they say that they want, and what they actually end up with are two different things. And any straight guy can tell you that the less that they care, the more successful they end up being.
Thanks for the update from social media, but I doubt you are getting much honesty from there either. And if you don’t have any first hand experience, you should probably look beyond a single echo chamber.
I can grasp your point, it’s just wrong. Women still like the jerks, and despite all the options they have with social media/the internet, they are more single and alone than ever. You can’t have more options, end up with worse results and continue to blame men. At some point they need to take some accountability
You've never listened to a woman in your life, have you.
shareSure I listen, but that doesn’t mean that they are right. When they are wrong, I care enough about them to tell them the truth.
You may think that you are helping them by telling them what you think want they want to hear, but that doesn’t help anyone. There is no learning, and no growth that can happen when you don’t take any responsibility
Sure, women can't possibly be right about how they feel or what they want out of life!
Here, read some of these, stories from women showing how they feel about "nice guys" and whether they like being treated badly. Turns out some of the "nice guys" are actually the ones treating them badly!
https://www.boredpanda.com/creepy-nice-guy-stories/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
Accurate.
shareWatched a thing talking about there is almost no upside for men to get married now: woman has your kid, then gets paid to take your kid away and trade up to a new guy with divorce, taking your money. That's quite a gamble for men: Maybe she WON'T divorce me. Stats don't paint a good gamble there.
You're not buying a refrigerator and wondering weather to get the warranty!
the "thing" you were watching was no doubt penned by some bitter incel whos never met a woman , or the woman left him for being a cold hearted asshole .
Well... no... it was based on facts and real quantifiable statistics.
Not really sure why any one would bother with anything less than facts, but to each his own I guess.
Feel free to look things up on your own and find facts.
According to a wide range of studies I've looked at, all people regardless of gender are getting lonelier, so I'm no sure why gender is always so pointed in these discussions.
sharePeople need to pull themselves together otherwise they will fall into a depression. And if they fall into a depression they will go to Torquay and open a hotel.
Lol does Torquay need more hotels? If so, I see no downside here. Summer is around the corner and loads of people would love to holiday there.
share"...all people regardless of gender are getting lonelier"
In a round-a-bout way, this is what I was sorta getting at when I made this parody post.
A lot of people seem lonely and alone these days, it’s good to be available to make yourself helpful to our Brothers and Sisters. I leave my office door open at work and I keep the lights on, anybody is welcome to enter and chat.
Some come to bitch and moan and I understand that, I always listen and understand their frustrations.
Some folks come to ask advice which I don’t always have but I know the right people to send them to.
We should try to do the best we can for others, we might be all they have.