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Maybe so...I suppose I was just surprised to see Bogart playing one though. In almost every movie I've seen him in he played the cynical man who still had a heart deep down. Here, he was just straight up evil. I came away cheering for the father who eventually got the upper hand and his acting really outshines Bogart's in this movie. And I've nothing against movies with truly evil villains, Richard Widmrk in Kiss of Death is one of my favorites but I guess I was just expecting more nuanced characters. When the mother and father and kid were alone in the upstairs bedroom, couldn't they have tied a few sheets together and escaped out the window? They'd be able to run to a neighboring house and call the police in time before the daughter got home. Two of the men were downstairs, the third was in a separate upstairs bedroom. Creep(2014) Surprised no ones mentioned this. It's dark but so funny, everyone I've gotten to watch this movie loved it. I was just watching the episode "Ethels Birthday" from season 4 and Fred mentions he's been buying Ethel birthday presents for 26 years. So assuming she was 18 when they married that would make her 44. She could've been a year older or younger when she married but I have a feeling she married young and it just kinda makes sense because later in "Ethels Hometown" we discover she was quite popular with the boys, so if she had waited any longer she wouldve likely married one of her hometown sweethearts instead of Fred. My theory on how they met was he was a kind of war hero passing through Albuquerque and she was smitten with his veteran status, mature age, uniform, and the promise of whisking her away from her little town and into the Big City. She probably had aspirations like Lucy of making it big in show business and saw the potential for Fred to provide her the means to do just that. I would love to find the time to read his autobiography some day, do you recommend it for those of us curious about all the goings on behind the scenes of ILL? Is it any good? I was just about to ask this same question, happy I'm not the only one wondering. I can't help but notice the obvious age gap between Ethel and Fred whenever I watch ILL. I don't mind it really, but it makes you wonder in the back of your mind how that partnership happened(in the story). And it makes it so very hard to figure her age out, whether she's closer to Fred or Lucy or right smack in between. I always figured Ethel was in her early 40s and Fred was in his early 50s, although he looks much older than that really and she looks younger than that but some people just age faster. Does it ever go into how Ethel and Fred met and married? I remember in one of the documentaries I watched about Desi and Lucy that the studio execs were very against casting Desi as Lucy's husband because he wasn't white. But Lucy stuck to her guns and wouldn't accept anyone else. So as far as the studio it must've been pretty controversial but I'm not sure about the audience on the whole. Seems the show was an immediate hit though, so Lucy and Desi showed that it really couldn't have ever been anyone else but Desi. I truly can't imagine enjoying the show so much with a different casting choice. Yes I'm really curious if their relationship was the first of its kind on TV, what with the husband and wife being from different ethnicities. It's hard for me to see them as interracial, though technically maybe they are? I just see Ricky as someone who speaks Spanish from a different country, but I have to admit I dont know much about Cuba's history or genetic makeup. One thing for sure though is it offers a lot of material for the show. It just wouldnt be the same without the slight language barrier. I always Crack up when Ricky gets so exasperated he starts ranting in Spanish, and Lucy jabs at his pronunciation of words like "experience" "expensive" and "dont". I've been searching for a good documentary on Lucy and Desi online for a deep dive but haven't found much. Maybe I'll eventually find a good book that will give me better insight into their life and times. Haha yes, my kids are definite fans now! At first I didn't remember the show that much and didn't know if my kids would get this kind of humor, especially since it's black and white and there's a lot of dated references but took a chance buying the first season and they were pretty soon begging me to show them more and laughing hysterically throughout. So I just ordered season 3! Last winter we went through the whole Little House on the Prairie series and they loved that too. I'm so exhausted with the new stuff these days and honestly I pine for the "good ol' days" where things were more wholesome and less cynical. Great to hear it only gets better after season 1! I'm used to series' going downhill after so many seasons or just getting milked to death when it should've ended a season or two before. Season 1 and 2 have a few episodes that i noticed were a little lackluster but we've still enjoyed every one of them. I just ordered the third season of ILL and looking forward to spending the rest of the cold, grey, Midwest winter with a new series to get us through. BTW, as much as I've always loved Hitchcock and seen just about every movie by him, I don't think I've ever seen Alfred Hitchcock Presents. I used to own several books that were collections by him of short stories titled "Stories not for the nervous" and "Stories to stay awake by" and so on that I loved as a teen. But I'll have to check out AFP, since my family loves Twilight Zone, that sounds very promising. I'm in my mid 30s so not that young anymore but I've always loved black and white movies and I want my kids to appreciate them as well. I hadn't watched ILL since I was a preteen at my grandma's house and had forgotten how funny and wholesome the series is. My kids(9 and 11) have been wanting to watch comedy together and I honestly can't stand a lot of the new stuff so I bought season 1 and 2 and we've been binge watching all the episodes and laughing our butts off! They adore ILL. I'll probably buy season 3 soon, but I'm not sure when the show starts to "drop off" and I hate the feeling of sensing the seasons are starting to decline so let me know if it's worth getting season 4-6. I also own the full Twilight Zone dvd collection and we've watched and rewatched that series since my kids were very little and we all love it and know all the episodes by heart. I have several Hitchcock movies: Rear Window, Vertigo, Dial M for Murder, The Birds(my kids' favorite Hitchcock so far), as well as a few 40s noir films like Double Indemnity and Night and the City. I'm working on building my classic dvd collection up slowly. I don't really see it, and I've been binge watching this series with my kids the past week. I love his character actually, only too bad in real life he was an unfaithful husband. I know a few truly cluster B and narcissistic people in my personal life and I'd be happy to trade them with Ricky lol. I hate woke crap too but I didnt get too much woke vibes from this. In fact, hearing it might be woke is what kept me from watching it until last night. Its not a super memorable movie but I thought it was ok. That all you got? Love how revealing it is how cult-like you guys are when someone wont drink the koolaide. Its like scientologists who go after people who leave their "church" with every bit of vitriol they can muster. Keep showing them true colors! Nothing says "Trust the science" more than "You cant sue us if something goes wrong." Being called anti-vax should be considered a badge of honor. Yep thats what I was thinking too. When I look back on the movie, I dont think about the action scenes at all, I think about the dreaming and characters becoming stuck in limbo. The husband and wife screwing up their own minds by experimenting with going further into their subconscious until they cant even recognize reality anymore was very touching and stayed with me more than any other part of the movie. I keep thinking that if this had leaned more into the psychological thriller genre and less into the action it would've been that much better but I'm admittedly biased because I dont generally like action movies anyway. "Seeing her and Marianne Cotillard in the same scene is like seeing a girl next to a fully grown woman." Pretty well sums it up. The difference between Ellen and Cottilard is astonishing on every level. She just didnt "fit" into the movie or offer much. I remember watching it for the first time and being confused at the kiss scene between her and Joseph Gordon-Levitt wondering if I missed something, was she supposed to be a romantic interest? Overall, she was fine, her role was minor enough to overlook the flavorlessness of her acting but I definitely think they could've cast a better choice. Thanks, I honestly thought ethan hawke was just in a lot of hair and makeup to look like the dad. I see now he is the translator from saving private Ryan. They look pretty similar to me!