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Everything. Likeable, well-rounded characters, the plot, good adventure and romance, everything.
Book, 100%
The film was a real slap in the face for me, especially after having such great film interpretations of the LOTR books. It seemed very unfair to have this travesty representing such a wonderful juvenile novel.
13 isn't the only number to be seen with fear. The Chinese are terrified of the number 4. In their language, the word for the number 4 is very similar to their word for "death," and they view it as extremely bad luck in many situations. You won't find a 4th floor on most buildings, many house numbers don't have a 4, and you rarely hear of it in everyday talk. I have no doubt the Taikonauts of today don't have any of their rockets or missions given the number 4 either.
It probably would have suffered the same fate as "First Man," with crappy Canadian and British actors faking being American and having no emotions, all the negative stuff about NASA being shown firsthand, and depicting how crappy the lives of black people were by comparison while the govt. "wasted" money on space travel. Oh yeah, they probably would have made sure the astronauts didn't have flags on their insignia.
Eliza actually had a very murky background. She was found near a river as a child and ended up in an orphanage. She has no memory of her past, but there were a lot of hints towards it. She was mute from the start. Eliza also liked water a lot, and wouldn't take showers. She always took baths to stay clean.
[spoiler]It's hinted that she is some kind of "mermaid" of sorts, but you only really get it when the creature puts his hands on her neck, and the "scratches" open up and are revealed to be gills. So all this time, she had been running around with improperly formed aquatic gills. It might also explain partially why she was attracted to the creature in the first place: she was also from a water-breathing, human-like species.[/spoiler]
I don't think it had anything to do with his background or politics. The Academy had actually kind of ignored him up until this point.
Normally good films like this are overlooked by the Academy because the people involved aren't popular enough. In the case of "The Shape of Water," it was a similar scenario to your average Disney or Dreamworks film winning the Academy award for Best Animated Film: there simply weren't many good choices out there. 2017 was a very dry, dull, and crappy season for films, even by the Academy's low standards, and they frankly could not find the other films nominated worthy of being awarded. So it was kind of due to a lack of options in the "good film" dept. beyond what TSOW could offer.
I don't mean to be harsh, considering I think this film deserved such an award, but the fact that it only won the award by default of having no real competition, (and this is by no means an epic or super-popular film), it feels kind of hollow.
No. This creature is very, very different from Abe. For one thing, he can't talk. For another, he is much more aggressive than Abe Sapien ever was. Abe Sapien also didn't possess healing powers or super-sharp claws.
Strangely enough, this movie was not inspired by the Hellboy films, despite having Guillermo Del Toro and Doug Jones working together on it. In fact, Del Toro actually explained that this story was inspired by the old, black and white film "The Creature From the Black Lagoon." He watched it as a child, and always wondered what would happen if there was a romance between the creature and the woman he kidnapped. It inspired him years later to write "The Shape of Water." Also, if you look at screenshots from the old film, and pictures of the Amphibious Man from this movie, you'll see where they got the idea for the design of the newer water creature.
Also, if you look closely between Abe Sapien and the Amphibious Man (that's how he's billed in the credits, he never actually got a name), you'll see that Abe is much more humanoid than the Amphibious Man in this movie.
Update after seeing the movie:
Not really. If you compare Abe Sapien to the Amphibious Man, the only things they have in common is the bluish skin coloring, large eyes, and both can breathe water and swim very well.
Abe Sapien is much more humanoid in appearance, can speak clear and perfect English, and is mostly a gentle soul, save for moments he has to help Hellboy fight. He also lacks claws on his fingers. Abe is also not super-strong, which is why he acts as backup for Hellboy, as well as being a well of knowledge to help in fighting supernatural foes. He also is telepathic and can practice psychometry, the ability to touch objects or people and learn everything about them.
The Amphibious Man, while possessing a gentle side that most people don't get to see, is mostly much more savage and primal. He is also a carnivore, and doesn't hesitate to protect himself if need be. In addition to that, he is very strong compared to Abe, and has a healing touch. He can't talk either, save for the sign language Eliza teaches him, though he has other ways of communicating on a very simple level. He is intelligent to a degree, but not as much as Abe.
First, please edit your comments before posting like that. Your grammar is awful.
Second, Rose would not have been allowed to sleep with Cal because it was against the rules of engaged couples of that class and era. Plus, she wouldn't have wanted to sleep with him, regardless of knowing Jack or not, and would have used the rules of the upper class as an excuse, despite his fake wooing with the gigantic diamond necklace in an early scene.
Girls like her would have been raised in a very sheltered upbringing. Typically upper-class women were educated with either tutors at home, or were sent to all-girls boarding schools for rich daughters, and later went to Finishing School, which was a sort of "college" for young women so they were educated to be ladies. It was a layover from the Victorian Era, where upper-class boys and girls were deliberately separated most of their young lives until they were old enough to get married. It was also extremely important that prospective brides remained "pure," and in order for a rich bastard like Cal to have a "proper" wife, she had to remain a virgin before her wedding night. He, on the other hand, had no such obligations to remain a virgin.
You obviously are not a millennial, or you would remember how all the teenage girls in 1998 were swooning over Jack Dawson as a great, handsome, hot hero with revolutionary thoughts. And then, less than two years later, the air went out of everything. Interviews with Kate Winslet revealed that she and Leo shared a trailer, and she bragged about them not sleeping together. Now what kind of a man shares a trailer with a woman that beautiful (or "hot," as my brother described her) and doesn't sleep with her at least once? In fact, he spent more time around Billy Zane than he did Kate, and there were rumors of him carrying on a private relationship with Billy instead. So you can imagine how angry Leo's former fans were when the realized that he was not "available" to swoon over anymore.
He became known as "Leonardo DiCRAPrio," and many teenage girls tore down their posters of the movie, got sick of the love song real fast, and I knew one who literally burned her Titanic soundtrack out of disgust. There are some who refuse to watch the movie or listen to the music to this day.
I didn't take this into account when I first saw the film at age 12, but frankly, there was a lot of stuff messed up about that scene in the car.
See, as a 12-year-old, you think that he hesitates in the act because he's never been with a high-class lady that he actually loved. By his own admission, he had only been with low-class Parisian girls for light and casual sexual encounters.
Now that I'm an adult, decades later the non-verbal language says another story. It says that Leo felt uncomfortable showing any form of intimacy with Kate beyond kissing, because he is gay, and doesn't normally spend time intimately with women in his private life.
Kate's behavior says that she is very experienced with sexual intimacy, and knew exactly what to do, much more than Leo did. This goes against her character's makeup, because Rose was supposed to be a virgin and have no idea what to do when finally alone with a guy she wanted to make love to. It should have been the other way around. Jack would have easily known what to do after all his experience with women, whereas Leo did not portray that very well at all.
Sad, but true.
Oh there were MANY more sins than that. Like not planning ahead with the ship's engineering, such as building bulkheads that didn't go up to the boat deck. Or not having ships keep their radios on no matter what.
Are you aware that there was a ship just a few miles away called the Californian, who could have saved Titanic, but the head radio operator got mad that night and shut the radio off because people kept bothering him? Then, when they saw the flares going up from Titanic, they did nothing. They thought it was some unusual light phenomena in the night. Titanic's captain also ignored ice warnings and let two corporate CEO's dictate to him how fast to drive the ship, even though navigating the north Atlantic was dangerous in early April. There was also the issue of lack of communication within the ship's staff, technology involving spotting icebergs and operating the lifeboats being too slow, and other problems. There was also the competition factor.
Titanic was an example of letting corporate competition show just how far people would go to ignore the human factor when it came to safety.
I think it was justice after what Ruth had done to her. You tend not to care much for a woman who cared more about appearances and wealth than she did about her own daughter. To try and push her into a terrible marriage with an abusive man to make up for dad's debts was very selfish on behalf of the mother. All she was really thinking about was living a life of wealth and comfort, no matter how much her daughter suffered.
Rose knew that if her mother found her, she'd try to get her back and marry her off to someone else, so she didn't dare try going back to that life. It was the perfect punishment to Ruth because she had lost her meal ticket and probably ended up working class as a seamstress, like she said. Chances are, she took a page out of Cal's book and ended her miserable life.
You will note in the "heaven" scene, who WASN'T there: Cal and Ruth.
I think with the real-life ship, it had more to do with God teaching the White Star Line (and other steamship companies at the time) what happens when you are so arrogant about a ship's build that you don't put people's safety first. It was also a lesson on prioritizing safety over class and gender. There were a lot of lessons God taught during the Industrial Revolution when it came to the human factor. Titanic was just [excuse the pun] the tip of the iceberg.
I found the show in a similar way. I was watching the tv guide channel in 2005 as it scrolled through the various programs available (this was RIGHT before we got proper digital cable where you could browse through tv guide instead of waiting for the scrolling), and I saw something called "Mythbusters" on the Discovery channel. I took a look, and thought some of the stories were interesting, and it kinda took off from there.
8 years later, I downloaded as many seasons as I could onto my laptop, and I watch them from time to time, though I don't have the last 3 seasons, so I watch those on Hulu.
I'm 1/32nd British, I have Russian, Irish, Dutch, and German ancestors that immigrated to America (before the World Wars, mind you), and our family name indicates that we have Viking ancestry. I rarely, if ever, tell anyone that stuff, and you don't see me bragging about it all the time, or using it to exploit others or to get ahead. Last thing anyone needs is someone like me coming over to England and demanding they recognize my family's noble blood and background. While my family is proud of their heritage, we don't really talk about it much with people. We let them gradually find it out.
And I am perfectly happy to color in the boxes/circles on my papers saying "White, Non-Hispanic," or "Caucasian."
She's not the only idiot out there to pull this stunt. There are a lot of white Americans (most of them liberals that are either very stupid, or taught not to appreciate America) who don't know their real heritage, and get bored by being surrounded by Americana all the time, particularly in Midwestern or northern states.
So they decide one day, "I'm gonna fake having an exotic heritage so I'll appear special compared to my fellow whites." Then these idiots will choose some exotic ethnic group from some foreign nation far away or from a group they almost NEVER intermix with, and pretend to have a vague, distant ancestor so they can explain their current lily-white complexion, by saying that their darker ancestry was bred out over the generations.
A popular exotic ethnic group to choose from for Americans are Native Americans, though the ancestry fakers have been known to use other groups too. A particularly popular Native American tribe to choose are the Cherokee, due to their history of being spread out all over North America and frequently inter-mixing with white people. Cherokee aren't the only ones exploited in this manner, but they are the most commonly used.
I knew two different people in the Midwest who made stupid claims like this and couldn't back them up, so Warren's just the latest faker to use this lie. There are probably thousands of other white Americans dumb enough to try this as well.
This kind of faking exotic ancestry thing is not new either. There were a number of ancient politicians, royals, and generals that claimed divine ancestry, though usually only their peers and intellectuals could really see through the lie.
You will note the revision I wrote that I read everything about THE MOVIE, not everything on Venom, because frankly, I could care less about him. He's hideous, he's evil, and nothing he does can redeem all the bad stuff he did throughout Marvel comic history. Sorry, but he's always gonna be a disgusting, 2nd-rate villain in my book.
What's the Lethal Protector series? Please keep in mind that not everyone out there has read every single comic or watched every single cartoon that exists about Spider-Man or his enemies.
Not everyone in the world watched that.
I just read everything on Wikipedia about this film, and I really don't buy him suddenly turning good. Venom has NEVER been a good guy, EVER. He was ALWAYS out for himself. Plus, you can't really get behind a creature as repulsive and disgusting as that.