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Yeah I didn’t really like that either.
It seemed pretty unbelievable, that her first thought after seeing a guy in a wheelchair on camera near the scene, is to think he somehow did it.
We also know she was thinking he was the one who did it because she checked his boots.
So to follow, she knows the guy is can’t move his body. But somehow thinks he killed a trained military man.
So then rather than track that guys known associates, she focuses all her attention on the guy in a wheelchair.
Now maybe that was part of STEMS plan so he could break Greys mind.
Overall though it shows her as a really good cop, yet somehow she wasn’t able to get any leads on the guys who killed the wife.
Just stared watching it.
It’s garbage.
It’s got so much going for it, but nothing makes sense.
No one cares they have a woman who can cure vampires.
No body cares that her blood kills ferals.
No body cares how much she heals.
It’s beyond disbelief.
Like why the hell didn’t they take a pint of her blood and I don’t know dip their knives in it? Bullets? Syringes? Hell look for some tranq darts and fill them with her blood.
Why didn’t they try and reverse doc faster? Was a couple episodes in before soldier boy thought “hey can you help my friend”.
Why did doc close the door twice. When both times there was ample time for the person to get through. I get she panicked the first time. But the second? They have the fucking cure getting bit doesn’t mean shit.
Also this is not how you create good characters. Literally none of them bar Mohamed and to an extent Vanessa have been likely and done stuff that has made them likeable. Axel kills that guys wife. John was just a raging asshole. Doc well she is a massive coward who just acts like a bitch. Flesh is eh ok once you get past the whole when he was a vampire he did some terriable shit. Nicole was a total bitch. The second group of survivors were idiots and fucked up a lot. Oh and back to Axel killing them all essentially. And Sam we later find out is well evil. Susan is probs the 3rd character who is ok.
Like how do you make this work? When most the characters taking up screen time you can’t relate too and well hate? Who is writing this and thinking “oh let’s not give these people any redeeming qualities.”
How it’s made it to three seasons is beyond me. Maybe because the action is pretty good when it happens and the actual bad guys are intimidating and play good bad guys.
Also can we address the fact that it’s way to bright. That somehow no UV is getting through to hurt these guys but in some spots it’s super obviously just straight daylight.
Agreed.
The director and writers need to go back to school and learn the basics of movie telling again.
Did they though?
The Mum was on his case right from the beginning. Now he had some of it coming sure and he obviously had no issues lying to her.
But she had no issues lying to him either.
The guy did his time. Gets out and gets attacked, told he needs to kill someone or he is screwed, told he needs to kill the other guy, doesn’t because he actually doesn’t want to kill him, gets told if he doesn’t sort it out his parents are dead, tries to sort it so no one dies, shit goes wrong so he wants to bail, then his mum holds him up because she took his money. It may have been dirty money but it was his and she wanted him gone, sooooo why not give it to him and get him to leave? If that had happened he likely would have been shot and yeah problem gone. But she gets shot. Then when he wants it over and again just to leave his gf decides to kill the guy, which gets her killed and almost gets him killed. Then he finally says he is going to leave and be done with it and his dad kills him.
He was just a guy who couldn’t escape his past. But at the same time he wasn’t completely evil, he wiped the knife clean and put his own prints on it to protect his dad.
He knew he had done wrongs and was paying for them. All the chaos came from a past he couldn’t escape from. But he was now in a time to escape from it as literally everyone who wanted him dead or could hurt him was dead. Yet his dad kills him. Because his Mum got shot. Which seems to have actually been Phil’s fault as he told that guy what really happened and the guy snapped and took revenge.
Again this was all stuff from his past. Something his mother would not let go of and was set to treat her son like he could never change. Which just pushed him away further. His dad finally had a chat with him and he was ready to just bail. His mother though prevents that because she wanted to have the moral high ground.
Really no one in the movie was really innocent. They all made bad mistakes.
It just ended. It was dumb. Everything they showed pretty much screamed nuke.
But somehow no radiation no nothing? They are perfectly fine.
Also why are they not telling people what happened? Again makes no sense. Nuke or otherwise they aren’t covering it up they are telling people.
Was just a really dumb movie. They wanted to end it on a cliffhanger to hopefully draw people in so they can make a sequel.
Stupid movie.
Admittly I’m a bit harsher because I have just had bad movie after bad movie today with the real shot show always being the ending.
Yeah that scene threw me and really was the first big red flag that this was going to be a shit show.
I mean if he lashed out a bit sure, makes sense anyone woild when they are accused of stuff they didn’t do. But Jesus it boiled over into something that we had not seen at all in the movie.
Like I see bad movies that are still fun. This movie this is one of those bad movies, it’s a movie they show to people studying movie making and what not, to show what not to do.
It was a stupid movie.
To many directors are trying to capture the same shock and awe with their twist ending like M.Night did. Even though it’s been shown time and time again the movie has to be pretty damned good to pull it off.
Most times twist endings that don’t fit the norm, suck. Especially in horror/thriller movies.
If I want to see a movie where it’s bit more true to life and doesn’t have a happy ending. I’ll watch true life movies about crime.
Seriously though what made this worse is whoever was behind the film, doesn’t know how to tell a story.
They set literally like 15 different things up. Making you go oh ok there is something deeper here. When nope it’s just a psycho who kills at open houses.
If that’s the ending you are going for, then freaking just follow that. Focus purely on a psycho who kills people cause he gets into the house during an open house.
Don’t have 10 other things going on making you think there is more to the movie. Keep it simple, “dad dies, stay at aunts house as they have fuck all money, killer gets them”. Add in a newspaper story and tv news report talking about the open house killer or something and bam there is your movie. Cliche as all hell but cliches are cliches for a reason. Hell do it well enough and you set it up for a sequel because people want to see the killer get caught.
God just such a waste of my time this movie was. There is nothing good about this movie.
For the guys first movie as a director and all that, it was good. So I cut them some slack there.
But yeah for all the hype around it and people praising it. When you really break it down, it’s stupid.
1. They would not have things hanging on the wall correct.
2. They sure as shit would have carpeted everything.
3. Somehow there is a random nail, that gets caught and pulled up and then stepped on? Piss off. That is not happening at all. One there was no reason for that nail to be there. 2 there was a clear path marked so obviously they had checked the stairs. A nail would not be left there at all. 3 finally a nail bent like that is going to take a bit of effort to bend back up.
4. 89 days in and the 4 year old keeps playing with a toy making noise? No. As soon as it made noise he’s ditching that thing since it was obviously drilled into their heads noise equals death.
5. Why did they leave the batteries there? I imagine those would be a resource they need. So why take them out then leave them sitting there? They would most definitely have kept those and pocketed them. Rather than leave them there so the 4 year old can put them back in the toy.
6. Your telling me they over ran America in less than 89 days? That nothing can kill them? Really? I mean we see that when their heads open up they can be killed. So what a tank round to the face won’t kill them? But a shot gun blast will? That the military didn’t realise how they can use shitload of noise to confuse the shit out of these guys so their troops are hidden?
7. With that much power how did that work? Like you need a generator for that and those aren’t quiet.
There were more but can’t remeber them all now. I did like the film but there are a lot of holes when you break it down. It would make a really good tv series where they could explore it more in depth. Because there were a lot of questions raised in the movie.
Because he killed one of his own.
Though they weren’t going to kill him. That was the sheriffs dumb grand kid. The sheriff said it all depended on Steve.
The grand kid jumped the gun because he wanted to kill someone.
The sheriff would have been happy to bring Steve back and help him, unless Steve did something.
Also the ending seems pretty simple. The guy has survived so much, only to be killed when he finally escapes. Not to mention the guy essentially says he wound up here because of tequila even though Warren hadn’t actually drunk anything and was sober. It was all just crazy and so Warren just laughed.
Was a dumb ending though. I hate films that do that because it’s not shocking in these type of films. Would have been more surprising to have Warren survive.
Exactly. They literally created a being that was better suited for earth. They made it so he seemed to need less food, less water and by the looks of it, could survive pretty much anywhere on earth. His eyesight would mean we would need less lights, less food usage, clothing gone, just so much shit that was using resources.
Yet they want to go to a planet that essentially has no resources for us to use and we would have to send there.
He wasn't himself. Then he didn't want to go because they were going to wipe his memory so he wouldn't remember his family.
He was lied to a lot and got fucked over. The not surprisingly when shit went wrong because they weren't honest with the people involved, Rick suddenly had a change of heart because well he wasn't really in control of himself.
It also made no sense they wouldn't have told everyone about the firewalls, all the firewalls. A mission like that they would have been super selective with who they picked, and made sure everyone agreed to everything beforehand.
Also as the OP said, they never should have been using a gloved capsule, it should have been robotic to lessen the risk of contamination should the gloves get damaged.
This is what kinda screwed the movie for me. Before that was pretty good, but the ending was just bad in terms of writing and forethought. With those spores justineau will never be able to leave, and she will only survive until she runs out of food and water. With the spores going airborne they likely infected the water too so be pretty screwed there.
I know someone posted an extra chapter the author of the book did which tied it up a bit better.
Strictly moviewise, feels like nobody thought it through.