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Not sure if it is or isn't related, but they did tell us that the Doll that represented Agent Harker had some control over her, causing her to not remember and not see things that were happening in front of her. I assume that longlegs was around her or in close proximity to her often, and her "gift" was never able to tip her off to what was going on.
Again, more of a theory then an actual answer to your question.
Someone regrets their decision to come back? A loved one is tragically hurt and a main character starts having flash backs of the game? The current world is still a simulation of the real world?
Just a few guesses. I'm actually with some other people on not doing a 3rd season. Its rare to get a pretty solid ending anymore.
I've enjoyed it, but I am worried how long a show that refuses to give me a likable character can keep my attention. I have enjoyed the story and the acting for the most part. Its a far cry from the first couple of season of Game of Thrones, but I just needed it to not be a disaster like the last 2 seasons of Game of Thrones. From that perspective the show has been a complete success.
Not attempting to pick a fight or anything, but did you feel this way about Joffery in Game of Thrones?
In one case you have a hand of the King putting fourth a sladerous accusation. In the other you have a Queen of the King saying he confided to her on his death bed that he wanted to change his heir.
Now we of course have the inside information to all of the details cause we are wathcing the show, but to a few lords spread across the continent these 2 situations would look very similar I would suspect.
I don't know about directly jumping in as a King's Guard. With the way Westeros politics play out the person you draw a weapon on might end up on the throne(or at least the immediate offspring of who you draw the sword on). That is a lose lose situation for the King's guard. Better to be ready to respond to whatever the King determines is the correct action, until then, frozen and indecisive sadly seems like the King's Guards best move.
I vaguely remember feeling the same way on first watch. The explanation and story behind her makes it a little less out of place. Later on she (and many of the other characters) does become a bit too good at killing zombies. It is a little weird, since they are still running into outside groups that show next to no survival skills, but the whole main cast are blowing through entire hordes of zombies indivdually.
On a side note, I don't think I have ever seen anyone talk about it, but is it possible that when a Targaryan bonds with the dragon they somehow transfer some of their personalities? It would explain the somewhat strange change we see in Aemond. It also might be how the madness enters their blood lines so easily.
Anyway, just a thought when I was thinking about our discussion.
Its a sticky situation without knowing what proper protocol/tradition would have been. The girls believed they had someone steal something that belonged to their mother, on the day they buried her. There was no hint at the girls having anything to do with the pig, so I think we can easily assume they were innocent of that.
I agree with the OP that until this point I thought he was to be the better child of the spoiled brats we have seen.
The problem with this story isn't that all of the character's are grey, its that the worst instinct is unchecked by any moral compass. For a large amount of the characters its ambition, and only ambition that drives their actions. For the children it appears to be cruelty without a glimpse of remorse.
Daemon seemed to at least outgrow his ambition, but there are signs that the fire has been re-lit in him. I'm enjoying the telling of the story, but I suspect this show will lack the re-watchability of the original. I also think it has a short shelf life with this model of story telling. I doubt this style can keep interest past 2 seasons at best.
It feels like they are trying to tell this from a purely historic point of view. Only things that would stand out in history are discussed or really shown. If that is the model they are going through (and I'm only guessing that it is). It's an interesting choice. It forgoes the normal character development, and frankly paints each character in a much harsher light.
I give it some credit though, I can't remember a show I stuck with this long where I literally hated every character on the screen. To be clear, I don't hate any of the actors, just the charcters they play.
I have seen some people say it is due to the gray characters that none of the charcters are likable, but I don't believe that. Some of the best loved charcters in movies and books are gray characters.
Yep thats pretty much how I feel about it to. If 2nd episode can deliver I will probably start to get a bit of that rising expectation going. Always the optimist I guess.
I was entertained, but it hasn't grabbed me yet. I'm waiting for either the moment it feels like GOT is reborn, or the down turn of quality that plagued the final couple of season.
There is always the possibility that it is just good enough to stand on its own without reaching the highs of the original or the lows of the final seasons.
Honestly none of the characters stand out to me yet. They have time to build them out as long as the rest of the story is good, but I suspected I would have an early favorite by the end of the 1st episode.
People are dead on. You really can't fix it. There are some great ideas out there on where they should have gone, but largely it's not JUST a writing problem.
The writing is awful and it is a problem, but if you like seasons 6 and 7 then it probably won't be the writing that would have ruined it all for you.
There was a major problem with story plot payoff, that couldn't have been done properly in the time frame delivered. They attempted to do a check box scenario that lead to horribly cheesy and predictable outcomes just to try to give some resolution. You can't have 7 seasons of build up and end the major threat in a single episode... No amount of writing would have made this not seem awful.
Season 1 through 5 they had created the "rules" of the world, and season 6 through 8 seemed to almost go out of its way to breakdown those same rules.
As an example: travel in Westeros was difficult time consuming and dangerous. Seasons 6 through 8 stopped carring about that detail and travel become nothing but a single bit of dialog in the story.
The entire story is based on the "fog of war" meaning main characters could be within a stones throw, and they might never know each other was there. 6 through 8 is full of last second saves and heroic entrances that would make any 80's action movie blush.
The writing CAN be blamed for many of the beloved characters becoming boring plot devices. Tyrion, Little Finger, and Varys are the most obvious of these problems. The writers had no idea how to write these characters without the books.
Again this started happening in season 6 though.
I think you can squarely put character's complete heel turn to their charcter arcs in the last season on the writers as well. Jamie and Danerys are key examples of this. I think Danery's story was decided season's ago, but they waited too long to show the signs, so it came off as cheap and ineffective.
I can see that take with Bruce. I think I've just gotten use to seeing him played a certain way. The way Pattison played him really did give the whole movie a new dynamic that maybe I'm just not giving enough credit too.
I have a feeling this might be one of those questions best answered after we see the growth in the next movie. There is a very real possibility that we all will appreciate THIS Bruce when we see the growth.
I was a little bit shocked how much I liked him. He is probably a closer to the mark Batman. I like the detail they put into him, and the fact that they made him fallible. The way they played him gave good depth, but also gave a ton of space for the character to grow and mature in later movies.
I think I liked Bale's Bruce Wayne a little bit more, but I think this is the most complete Batman we have gotten in a single movie.
I completely get your point, but nobody wants a zombie movie where the people are completely competent and the zombie threat is neutralized before it gets out of hand. Zombie movies REQUIRE a certain level of stupidity from the people.
I have no real expertise on musicals, but your comparison is missing one major point. The New York City attack would have been, by and large, considered a victory. Where 9/11 had no such outcome.
You might still be right on your assertion, as a musical number about it would seem horribly off tone with the reality. but I'm not sure it would have been AS unlikely as the 9/11 event.
They made a bad decision with Kingpin. He is suppose to be cold and calculating. There should be some level of dread when he gets involved. His "attention" should have made the whole situation messy and nearly impossible to successfully maneuver in the city. Kate's mom should be dead, hell, Kate should be dead. If he can't carry out something this simple in HIS own town, then he just isn't the same character that we see in the comics and/or the netflix series.
Disney needs to stop doing this with their villains. They are either comic relief, pathetic, or misunderstood anti heroes, and if they create one that is worth a damn they make it a point to kill him off almost immediately. It would have been nice to have a bit of a rogues gallery built up by now.
2 episodes are really good, the rest have been borderline boring and/or stupid. I will give them credit on a few episodes most definitely not having a Disney feel to it. Personally I think the "what if" concept struggles when you are only able to use the MCU and not comic source material. Since we are so limited on what we actually see between the characters, there just isn't a lot of crossover storylines to play off of. It makes writing it easy I guess, because nobody can really critique you with contrary source material.
That's a really good point. It does fit when you look at it that way. I guess I was more immersed in the idea of the whole show being something completely different then what we have seen before. I just didn't think it would follow that formulaic conclusion to the end.
Unfortunately I still can't take back the bit of a let down feeling that the show provided, but it is always nice to get a perspective that helps you look at something differently.
Yep, I feel like they missed out. with 1 or 2 lines they erased the shadows and gave us a spotlight on everything.
I do give them props that the reveal was handled in a pretty entertaining way, but this could have been better than a pop up bad guy who tells you the whole plot.