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Responding to your first remarks, regarding Thomas Wayne and Arthur's mother. Okay, so maybe I didn't follow along with the story completely. Maybe I misunderstood some things. But that's the point. I found those portions of the story-line so dull and boring, that I didn't even care to follow along and understand. Those subplots complicated everything, and sent the story into an unnecessary direction...in my opinion.
And yeah, the laugh seriously bothered me. Arthur was constantly laughing. Sure, it was consistent with his character. But it was annoying, and didn't add any depth to his character at all. At some point, I was just like..."Okay, I get it. Arthur has a laughing condition."
I expected the dialogue to have a more philosophical and in depth tone to it. The dialogue is what should've added to the Joker's personality. For example, Heather Ledger's Joker character in The Dark Knight had some epic and unforgettable lines of dialogue. Like, "Upset the established order and everything becomes chaos." The dialogue in that film is what turned Ledger's simple character as a super villain, into an iconic representation of chaos and disorder. It added more depth and meaning into the Joker's character. I'm not even a fan of The Dark Knight film. But I can't deny that Ledger's performance as the Joker was unforgettable. He was so convincing.
There was a line of dialogue at the end of this 2019 Joker film, when he was on the Murray Franklin show, that went something along the lines of, "They think we're just gonna sit there and take it like good little boys." I just thought that line of dialogue was so weak and cringe worthy to be honest. Now, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the tone and build up of that scene. But the weak dialogue disappointed me. I expected Arthur / Joker's character to let out some sort of epic climatic villainous speech. But no...that didn't happen. It was ultimately unsatisfying.
I didn't get that hint. I think Waltz shot him simply because he was disgusted by him.
Exactly
Agreed. The cast was pure perfection.
To take a quote from the 1996 film Scream - "Don't you blame the movies. Movies don't create psycho killers. Movies make psycho killers more creative."
Basically, I can't accept the fact that any film plays a significant role in someone carrying out an act like Columbine. I think if anyone does something like that, than that's a natural non-movie related impulse that's already within them. And by the way, if we're going to get technical and blame Natural Born Killers, than we could also blame the 1993 film Killing Zoe as well. There's a lot of elements within that film that could relate to the Columbine killers as well. And what about that scene from the Basketball Diaries? There are so many different things we could point the blame at. But it would be useless and would clarify nothing.
And one thing that's never talked about is the fact that the Columbine killers took a lot of inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing.
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Damn...I can't even argue with that.
Robert Downey Jr. was also great.
No, we don't really know the motive actually. It wasn't because of bullying. That was a narrative created by the mainstream media. From my research, at best, their motive seemed to be inspired by political extremism.
Kalifornia
I guess so.
Inglorious Bastards is one of my all time favorites.
I didn't care for Django Unchained or The Hateful Eight. But I really liked Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Bully is his best film.
But I also liked Another Day in Paradise. And I even kinda enjoyed Wassup Rockers.
Joaquin is a great actor. But Stahl was perfect.
You're missing the point. It's not that they were necessarily upset. They wanted to experience the thrill of killing. They were all delusional.
I always enjoyed Chucky for being entertaining, not scary.
Agreed.
I'm not jumping to conclusions. Regardless of the backstory, I'm sure it was still viewed as an ideal marketing tactic. Iron Man was a very popular movie when it first came out. I'm sure adding in Burger King didn't hurt the company any.
Sounds like something that was added in the script for a Burger King promotion.
Really, you thought season 1 was bad? That was considered one of the prime seasons of this series. It's the episode that started it all. But hey, I guess the show isn't for everyone.
You may have a point. Cause honestly, my perspective back in 2011 was radically different. I was much younger for starters. My friends and I used to get hammered drunk and watch this show. At the time, it seemed entertaining and funny. It was such a new and refreshing series for Showtime. But if I had to watch the series all over again, I doubt I could do it. With time and as I matured, the show did eventually lose its spark with me.
Oh no. That was real. But that's it. Everything else was a delusion.