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Simulations don't commit, cannot commit suicide. Nardole and Bill were alive after they "died".
Crucially , the audience did not "view" any suicides.
When suicide is alluded to, it is to condemn it outright.
The iniquities of murder, conquest and extermination are fixtures of Dr Who which have divided audiences since its conception.
Just a quick thought.
I don't think that what Water's is quoted as saying is a million miles from what some of Hitchcock's peers and critics thought and said at the time.
I believe that achieving some sort of autonomy was on Hitchcock's mind at the time and thought "what can I get away with that people will flock to see out of morbid curiosity". The profitable nature of those kind of movies must have given him encouragement that it would be possible. It's easy to see how he could come by the requisite hubris to presume "If someone like [b]me[/b] was top make such a film...."
He knew he wasn't attempting to emulate any of the success or esteem of his pictures made immediately prior and made sure that the audience was not given the impression that he was either.
You could call that managing expectations along the lines of an exploitation type film. But if you make a comparison with, say, Rear Window, they both fall in to the murder mystery/thriller genre. But they are so dissimilar in certain ways that you might put Psycho in the exploitation film genre, while Rear Window is somehow considered respectable, mainstream.
Everybody just assumes that their rendezvous achieved completion, at least for one of them.
This is because of the crude theme of Sex = Death that has been latterly imposed on the film and indulged by less than illustrious copycats since.
Maybe she knocked him back.
Maybe he wasn't up to it.
Cheerio then.. If it makes you feel better, I'm sure you're not the only person who equates the perceived quality of a TV show with a dilema like "Lovely Vs Awful, Ugly, Masculine looking"
Ta ta for ever
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Historically, Points Of View have never upheld or broadcast complaints of what people might perceive. Unless a real person or a section of society is in danger of being defamed or misrepresented in some way.
Even Mary Whitehouse was smart enough never to rail against innuendo because the viewer is doing the work of taking offense and therefore cannot blame the show.
It didn't seem like anything.
He was stating that someone else was once attracted to him.
You shouldn't let the way that things in a sci-fi/fantasy drama seem a certain way to you, in spite of what is actually being stated, make you so depressed.
Not unless you were attributing it to a totalitarian government.
Since capitalism has defined the ruling ideology, to varying degrees, in UK society since its establishment, regardless of the ruling party and their professed ideology, you would still be making an apolitical statement. Because you'd be critiquing all political regimes equally.
"This episode even had the Doctor calling capitalism a "mistake" and talking favorably about its eventual end."
Completely reasonable and not propagandist. Based on the results of capitalism presented in the show, and which are not unrepresentative of the vagaries of that ideology and the iniquities that are historically, and accurately, attributed to capitalism.
It's not political. It's ideological.
No. I don't think anyone other than an adult would have perceived those things from watching the show.