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For those who haven't seen the A.N.T. Farm episode, in "animal husbANTry", the 3rd episode of the 3rd season, on June 28, 2013, Chyna agrees to watch the animals of her fellow A.N.T. while he is away. Chyna becomes attached to the chicken, and Olive gets jealous of all the time Chyna spends with the bird. Chyna gets upset when she learns she is supposed to feed the chicken to the alligator, and suggests that they buy a dead chicken from the supermarket to feed the alligator.
The all knowing Olive who never forgets a fact says that alligators only eat live prey, so the alligator wouldn't eat a dead chicken. Either jealous Olive is lying, or this is actually true in the alternate universe of the DCLAU.
In real life, in our alternate universe, alligators do eat dead meat and Purina makes Purina Alligator Chow to sell to alligator farms and owners of pet alligators. Other species of crocodiles also eat dead meat.
The St. Augustine Alligator Farm had a giant crocodile named Gomek who was so tame and non aggressive - for a croc - that his keepers actually got into his compound and close to him. They used to feed him dead chickens from a few feet away, which would have been suicidal if crocodiles only ate live prey.
http://www.interestingamerica.com/2011-02-25_St_Augustine_Alligator_Farm_by_R_Grigonis.html
https://ourplnt.com/worlds-5-largest-crocodiles-ever-recorded/gomek-crocodile-marcus-miller/
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME WITH ANY CROCODILE OR ALLIGATOR THAT IS NOT MUCH SMALLER THAN YOU! IN MANY JURISDICTIONS DOING IT YOURSELF MIGHT COUNT AS ATTEMPTED SUICIDE, WHILE GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SO MIGHT COUNT AS ATTEMPTED MURDER, EVEN IF NOTHING BAD HAPPENS.
People survived getting so close to Gomek for two reasons:
1) Because for some reason Gomek was very tame - for a crocodile.
and:
2) Gomek and other crocodiles and alligators are willing to eat dead meat instead of live prey.
I've had to cut down on salt for my blood pressure for a long time now. I used to love salt as a child, but now I am so used to low salt food that one time when I ate highly salted french fries from a fast food place the salt seemed to burn my mouth.
So I can't agree that "a lot saltier" is good.
Yes elephants just eat peanuts in the shell.
The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "Chuckles Bits the Dust" October 25, 1975, had a minor character in the show, Chuckles the Clown, become the grand marshal in a parade in a "Peter Peanut" costume and be fatally injured by being "shelled" by an elephant.
And of course the humor in the classic episode is not lessened by facts like elephants eat peanuts in the shell, or that they have very good senses of smell and could smell that a human in a peanut costume smells different from any food they ever ate.
SPOILER WARNING! STOP READING UNLESS YOU SAW THE EPISODE "THE SECRET(S) OF CASTLE MCDUCK". SPOILER WARNING!
I just saw "The Secret(s) of Castle McDuck" August 4, 2018, and Scrooge's parents are alive!
As one of the boys said: "Your father's alive? I can't believe you're still alive!"
The explanation seems to be that when Scrooge financed the rebuilding of Castle McDuck he bought some cheap used druid stones.
The druid stones may also be the reason why the mists only clear enough for someone to reach the castle once every five years. I wonder if Fergus and Downy are only alive during that short once every five years moment and are ghosts the rest of the time.
How long are Duck generations? Hortense McDuck, sister of Scrooge and wife of Quackmore Duck, was born in 1876 according to Carl Barks and/or Don Rosa. Her grandchildren, Huey, Dewey, and Louie Duck, were born in 1940 according to Don Rosa, making Duck generations similar to humans ones. But in "The Secret(s) of Castle McDuck" a paper with the boys' birth date is seen, including the year "20__", the last digits being covered by a thumb.
Among humans, males can become parents at much older ages than females. Men in their nineties and even one over a hundred have allegedly become fathers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_fathers
But two long paternal generations in a row is much rarer than one generation. President John Tyler was born in 1790 and his youngest grandson was born in 1935, 145 years later. If the boys were born in 2007 their father's father being born in 1862 would fit the dates for Scrooge's family. But I never heard of any human being born 138 years after their mother's mother. So I guess that Hortense and Quackmore, or Della and her mate, or both pairs in separate incidents, must have been in suspended animation, or time traveled, or something, to avoid aging for decades.
Or, since Fergus and Downy are now immortal, was Hortense born a century after her brother? Or were Della and Donald born in Castle McDuck about 1980 when their mother Hortense was about one hundred?
Of course there are many examples of ex monarchs who were NOT killed by those who took the throne from them.
When King Henry I of England died in 1135 his heir was his daughter Empress Matilda, but her cousin Stephen took the throne. During the civil war that followed King Stephen was captured at the Battle of Lincoln on 2 February 1141 but wasn't executed. Instead, when Stephen's wife the other Matilda captured Robert of Gloucester, Empress Matilda's illegitimate half brother and main supporter at the Route of Winchester 14 September 1141, the two prisoners were eventually exchanged in November. Stephen remained king but recognized Empress Matilda's son Henry as his heir by the Treaty of Winchester in 1153, disinherited stephen's own son William.
When King Edward the Confessor died in 1066 the only other member of the House of Wessex and the rightful heir to the throne was young Edgar the Aetheling (c. 1051-c.1126). But the nobles chose the powerful and ambitious noble Harold Godwinson as the king instead. After Harold was killed at the Battle of Hastings Edgar was selected as king but soon submitted to William. When he was older Edgar had an adventurous life, joining rebellions against William and invasions from Scotland where his sister was married to King Malcolm III, being imprisoned a few times, going on the First Crusade, leading an English invasion of Scotland to put his nephew on the throne, etc.
Mael Sechnaill mac Domnaill (c. 949-1022) was king of Mide from 976 an High King of Ireland from 980. Brian Boru (c. 941-1014), King of Munster, replaced Mael Sechnaill as High King of Ireland in 1002, but they continued to cooperate in Wars against the Norse, an Mael sechnaill became High King again in 1014.
About the spoiler warning, I remember as a child reading about medieval England, and when I got to the part where young Arthur of Brittany was fighting for the English throne against his uncle John I was expecting young Arthur to win and become the famous King Arthur - this was before I knew that Arthur was King of the Britons and not of the English - and I was shocked when Arthur was defeated and imprisoned by John and then murdered.
The original version of Tower of London (1939) also showed at least the beginning of the murder of the princes.
The Yellow Tomahawk (1954) featured a Cheyenne attack where (Spoiler Alert).
The Oregon Trail (1959) had a highly improbable Indian attack on a wagon train INSIDE fort Laramie, where (possible Spoiler).
Soldier Blue (1970) had some highly realistic and violent attacks by Indians and by whites. (I'm warning you, if you watch it my words will probably be quite insufficient warning about the violence unless you've watched a lot of violent recent movies).
In Sudden Terror/Eyewitness (1970) an assassin out to eliminate the only witness to his crime kills anyone in his way, including (Spoiler Alert).
In the Adventures of Huck Finn (1993) a feud between families gets very violent and (Spoiler Alert).
IN the 1994 TV Movie The Oldest living Confederate Widow Tells All there are several flashbacks to the Civil War, where (Spoiler Alert) and (Spoiler Alert).
So off hand I can think of several movies where more or less innocent and mostly non bratty children get killed on screen.
No, I believe that dozens or hundreds arrived in 1608 and 1620.
2) It was normal and usual for Indian characters to be portrayed by white actors in 1950s movies, though there were some Indian actors.
3) Taza (c.1843-1876), Cochise (c. 1805-1874), Naiche (c.1857-1919), and Geronimo (1829?-1909) were not the only real people in the movie. Other real people included General George Crook (1828-1890), Chato (1854?-13 August 1934) who was not Taza's right hand man, and Skinya (c. 1825-1876).
Then you would hate the brief moments of song in Buffalo Bill (1944). Sergeant Chips McGraw (Edgar Buchanan) occasionally sings a line or two from "The Regular Army O" while working on something. I think they deliberately made his singing bad as characterization.
It was first published in 1874, and soldiers on the frontier were singing it by the Great Sioux War of 1876-77 and often changing it to fit their circumstances.
https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=74392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpFh_9BEyOM
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Congress established Yellowstone National Park in the northwestern corner of Wyoming in 1872. So by 1874 a large portion of northwest Wyoming was unavailable for ranching. The Wind River reservation for the Eastern Shoshone was established in northwest Wyoming in 1868, also restricting the possible ranch sites in that region.
But all of northern Wyoming was unavailable for ranching until the late 1870s. A vast region of northeastern Wyoming was part of the unceded Sioux territory which it was illegal for white persons to enter without Sioux permission. And the Sioux tended to believe that what was theirs was theirs and what was someone else's was also theirs if they could take it, and they roamed far beyond the official borders of Sioux territory and robbed and stole as a much as they wanted to, even in territory claimed by other tribes. Before the Sioux were forced to give up the unceded territory and stay on the reservation in 1877, northern Wyoming was too dangerous to ranch in. Fort Fetterman, on the North Platte River, was the northernmost outpost of civilization in eastern Wyoming in the 1870s and was considered to be a remote hellhole.
And after the Sioux were defeated and northern Wyoming was safe for ranching, the Northern Pacific railroad began building its transcontinental line across southern Montana, completing it on September 8, 1883. So after 1883 at the latest, the more northern parts of Wyoming were closer to stations on the Northern Pacific railroad than the Union Pacific.
So in the novel The Virginian it is a bit hard to imagine a route to the ranch that covered 263 miles from Medicine Bow that wasn't very winding. I also note that it seems to take about 3 or 4 days to get there, which is about 65.75 to 87.66 miles per day, or 5.47 to 7.3 miles per hour if they traveled 12 hours a day.
On the return trip: "The Judge himself drove me to the railroad by another way—across the Bow Leg Mountains, and south through Balaam's Ranch and Drybone to Rock Creek."
Own Wister said the Bow Leg Mountains were based on the Big Horn Mountains, which are about 150 to 200 miles northwest of Medicine Bow.
https://truewestmagazine.com/owen-wisters-wyoming/
It is claimed that Fetterman City, built near abandoned Fort Fetterman after 1882, was the inspiration for Owen Wistler's fictional Drybone.
http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/index.php/about-fort-fetterman
The ghost town of Rock Creek is in Albany County to the east of Medicine Bow and was reached by the railroad in 1868.
http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/lincrockriv2.html
Since the Johnson County War that inspired part of the plot of The Virginian was centered around Buffalo, the ranch may have been near Buffalo, and then a roundabout route to Rock Creek could go through (foothills of?) the Bighorn Mountains, and Fetterman City. Buffalo and Medicine Bow are 171.29 miles apart, and 202 miles by I-25 and US 87.
https://www.distance-cities.com/distance-buffalo-wy-to-medicine-bow-wy
I note that Buffalo, Wyoming, is only about 149.5 miles by road from Custer, Montana, on the Northern Pacific railroad since 1883.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Distance+Custer+MOntana+to+Buffalo%2C+Wyoming&oq=Distance+Custer+MOntana+to+Buffalo%2C+Wyoming&aqs=chrome..69i57.15888j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
So perhaps it is good that the TV show The Virginian moved the ranch to just a couple of hours riding distance from Medicine Bow so that characters could go to the town as often as the plot required. That puts the ranch house within perhaps a 10 miles radius of Medicine Bow, a place with a definite location on the map, while in the novel the ranch is vaguely located within tens of thousands of square miles.
Yes, I remember seeing the movie a long time ago on TV and noted that a child was killed in the battle. Also at the beginning a massacred wagon train is seen including a child's doll and later in the movie the protagonist's wagon train finds the remains and someone picks up the doll.
Continued And similarly knowing that the Maverick brothers were having some of their adventures during the Great Sioux War of 1876-77 offers possibilities for anyone writing a story about it.
For example, someone could be hiring scouts or wagon drivers or other civilian workers for one of the expeditions during the Great Sioux War. And someone could say to Bret or Bart that he was out of luck and owed people money and should sign up and the Maverick would decline citing the Maverick code.
Or, it is recorded that in 1876 a group of miners and prospectors from Montana who came to the Black Hills were unlucky there and decided to return to Montana, and took a direct route through Sioux territory to do so. And by chance or possibly prearrangement they met the expedition of General Crook and decided to ride with it partway for mutual protection. So some or all of the miners were in the great Battle of the Rosebud on 17 June 1876 where many persons on each side had narrow escapes from death.
So a story about the Great Sioux War could include as one of the minor plots a prospector from Montana getting in a card game in the Black Hills with Bret or Bart and losing a lot of money, more money than he actually had. The miner may have been the part owner of a mining claim or ranch back in Montana and offered to pay his debt by giving his share to Bret or Bart Maverick. But they would have to go to Montana together to arrange it. So the miner and Bret or Bart would join the group of miners returning to Montana.
The miner could be very depressed and possibly suicidal for various reasons and might think that Bret or Bart cheated in the card game. So the miner would ride to the Rosebud with the soldiers and constantly risk his life in the battle, and Bret or Bart would have to risk his life to protect the miner and get his winnings, and everyone would think he was a hero.
Not at all overthinking. It is always good to know the fictional dates - if any are specified - of famous western movies and TV shows.
For example, I asked about the fictional date of the movie Shane (1953) and one answer is that the character Joe Starrett carries a 1877 Colt double action Lightning revolver that started production in 1877. Thus the year would be 1877 or later. And a comment indicates the story was based on the Johnson County range war of 1892.
In one scene the cattle baron trying to drive the homesteaders out of the valley says that he and the other early ranchers had to fight Indians and rustlers. He implies that he made the valley a safe place for white people. The main hostile Indians in Wyoming would have been the Sioux and their Northern Cheyenne and Northern Arapaho allies. And a mighty hostile alliance like that was not defeated by a few ranchers and their cowhands, but by the US Army.
So it seems to me that Joe Starrett's answer would be better if he reminded the cattle baron that he didn't defeat the Sioux and stop their raids and make the valley safe for white men to live in. So Starrett could have asked the cattle baron if he was at various victories against the Sioux like Ash Hollow/Blue Water, Stony Lake, Big Mound, Dead Buffalo Lake, Whitestone Hill, Killdeer Mountain, the Badlands, The Hayfield Fight, the Wagon Box Fight, The Rosebud, Slim Buttes, etc. Or even ask if the Cattle Baron had died in the Grattan Massacre or the Fetterman Massacre or Custer's Last Stand.
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Yes, that is how I thought the song went. It's good to know someone else heard it the same way.
some people would think from the title that greenrose222002 was criticizing the physical features of an overweight Islamic woman. I, on the other hand, remembered there is an episode with a camal.
Since he's a duck, more like a "flylander"
TV westerns as well as movie westerns often mix the goofiest fiction with historical incidents.
I remember an episode of some old western where someone was seeking paper or gold money from a graveyard, possibly the graves of the 7th cavalry.
The Twilight Zone had an episode "The 7th is Made up of Phantoms" where three modern members of the National Guard travel back to Custer's Last Stand.
The Life And Legend of Wyatt Erp had an episode where Captain Benteen and Mrs. Custer were in Dodge City sometime after the Little Big Horn.
Branded had a three part episode "Call to Glory" with General Custer before the Little Big Horn.
I have seen a Laramie episode where someone plots to kill General Sherman when he passes though ("The General Must Die"). And another one ("The Pass") where the protagonists scout for the army (including General Custer) sometime before the Little Big Horn.
And so on.
Yes, the program was called Death Valley days because it was sponsored by 20 Mule Team Borax, and Borax was mined in Death Valley and freighted out in wagons pulled by 20 mule teams from 1883-1889.
[url]https://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/borax-20muleteam.htm[/url]
So the program was called Death Valley Days to please the sponsor.
If it had a different sponsor it might have been called Tales of Western Union or Wells Fargo Days or Union Pacific Stories.
Sure, they are "Hollywood accurate stories", not "accurate accurate stories". In that particular episode Hugh Glass was mauled by a grizzly bear. Do you think that his wounds were shown accurately, or even could have been shown accurately according to the then Hollywood production code?
As a kid I read an article about the "Red Ghost" that spooked Arizona in 1883-1893, and later saw the Death Valley Days episode "The Red Ghost of Eagle Creek", 29 December 1963, based on the true events, and noticed how much they compressed the time and the space of the events to make a story out of it. So ever since then I realized that most TV shows based on true stories are "Hollywood accurate stories" and not "accurate accurate stories" such as documentaries have.
And even documentaries and "educational" or "factual" shows often distort the truth too much. For example, I saw an episode of Bone Detectives "Warlord of Bamburgh Castle" 24 March 2008, about the reign of King Edwin of Northumbria in the 7th century AD, and with scenes filmed at - you guessed it - Bamburgh castle. And nobody mentioned that the stone castle seen in the episode, on the site of Edwin's stronghold at Bamburgh, was built centuries after Edwin's time in the high middle ages and in the Victorian era.
And it is specifically said that King Edwin converted to Christianity, which is true, and that Edwin's enemies were the pagans Penda and Cadwallon. Penda, the King of Mercia, was a pagan, but he let Christian missionaries work in his lands and let members of his family convert to Christianity, so he didn't fight Edwin out of anti-Christian bias, but more because "Britain wasn't big enough for the two of them", you might say. Cadwallon, King of Gwynedd and King of the Britons, was a Christian and didn't fight Edwin because Edwin was a Christian Anglo-Saxon king but because Edwin was an evil Christian Anglo-Saxon king who didn't let being Christian keep him invading Cadwallon's kingdom of Gwynedd just like evil pagan Anglo-Saxon kings did.
Apparently, even in this relatively secular age, producers believe that audiences expect that everyone who converted to Christianity was a good guy, and thus that their enemies were bad guys and thus pagans.
06-20-2018 In the third season episode "Let's Bounce" Emma, Lou, Ravi & Zuri see that Destiny, Matteo, and Finn are floating toward a deadly waterfall. But never fear, Zuri is prepared for everything. She says that the Canadian border is ten minutes hike away and she has prepared fake IDs for herself, Ravi, & Emma, in case of emergency. I'm sure that would make Matteo, Finn, & Destiny feel a lot better if they knew.
Thinking about the borders in the alternate universe of the Disney Channel Live Action Universe, it is possible that the Maine-New Brunswick border is farther east or west than in real life. Thus it could be a straight north-south line - like the real border is farther north - from a point on or near the ocean. And thus the kids could walk through the woods across the border in "The Great Escape" instead of having to cross a river.
So the outlet of Moose Rump Lake is a river that plunges over a large waterfall close to the lake. A great place to put a summer camp for children! Actually two summer camps for children, since Camp Champion is across the lake from Camp Kikiwaka.
I suspect that the stream or river that flows out of Moose Rump Lake goes more or less to the southeast to the waterfall. The town of Moose Rump is probably a short distance below the waterfall, on the western side of where the river enters the ocean or a bay. The US-Canadian border probably follows the course of the river up to the waterfall - which would be the head of navigation - and then goes straight north.
The USA and Canada would want to keep the border in the middle of the the river as far as it could be traveled up, but portaging canoes around such a high waterfall would be too hard and so Canada would be willing to let the USA keep the upper reaches of the river.
Since the road from Camp Kikiwaka to the town of Moose Rump probably doesn't cross the Canadian border, it is probably on the southwest side of the river flowing out of Moose Rump Lake. There is probably a foot bridge or road bridge across a narrow part of Moose Rump Lake near Camp Kikiwaka. That would make a trip to Moose Rump faster if Camp Kikiwaka is on the eastern side of the lake, and a trip to Canada faster if Camp Kikiwaka is on the western side. Actually such a bridge is seen in some stock shots in third season episodes.
I wonder if there is any place in either Maine or New Brunswick with the right features, or if the Disney Channel Live Action Universe has a different geography than our universe.