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Like H20, Jamie Lee Curtis got involved, and then it’s like “Okay, now the movie’s off the ground.” The original Halloween 7 was supposedly going to be a direct to video sequel about Michael attacking girls at an all women boarding school. Then Jamie Lee Curtis got involved, and saved the franchise from going to direct to video with H20.
This film probably didn’t have anything to do with Laurie, maybe she’d be mentioned in passing, or perhaps she was asked for a cameo. But, considering she’s kind of got no project that I can think of that she’s doing at this point, and considering John Carpenter came back to cash in on this beaten horse as well, she probably figured “why not?”, and got a role in the story.
Hell, I’ll speak for myself when I say I wasn’t too sure this film would’ve seen the light of day, considering how many attempts at a film has happened since the RZ films. Even with John Carpenter involved, I thought back to Texas Chainsaw 3D and Terminator: Genisys, where both creators have their names attached to these films, and say they’re proud of the final product, even though it’s a complete turd. But when Jamie Lee Curtis was involved, I knew it would be like H20: a competently made movie, but a mediocre script.
With this film coming out, it’s just the 1st one. Just watch the first one, and go straight to this new one coming out in October.
The season finale of Roseanne had her scared to go under the knife for her knee operation, and the last time we see the family together is dinner before the operation can happen. More than likely the operation somehow killed her. At least that's how I would write her off. It'll be better than how "Kevin Can Wait" and "Two and a Half Men" handled the deaths of their main characters.
It's more realistic than the dialogue the remake teenagers had, and I don't mind that film.
At the end of this film, Deputy Hunt talks to one of his Deputies about how many bodies were found inside the hospital, and the Deputy said 10 so far. This is back when the film was intended to conclude the Michael Myers storyline, so Garret, Alves, Budd, Karen, Mixter, Janet, Jill, The Marshall, Loomis, and Michael are the 10 that come to mind.
However, Halloween 4 retcons Halloween II by having Michael and Loomis survive the explosion. Let's assume Michael was still technically "dead" by this point, and his body is trying to regenerate itself as he tends to do in these films, so he's included in the count as well. He's included until someone finds him to be ONLY comatose, so that makes 9/10 victims. Loomis survived the explosion, so that means one more person had to have died at the hospital, and Jimmy technically wasn't shown to have lived in that version. So I say Jimmy died, unless either a) the Deputy somehow miscounted by 1 and/or 2, b) the explosion killed one of the patients in the hospital, if there were any other ones, OR c) Michael killed one of the patients, staff or some random citizen of Haddonfield off-screen IN the hospital for no reason.
Halloween H20 ignores Halloweens 4 through 6, and according to THAT film, Loomis died a few years before the events of H20. So even in THAT timeline, Loomis survived the explosion somehow, and clearly, as did Michael, for his body was never recovered, and he had been missing for 20 years. Assuming Michael's "corpse" was counted in the count of 10 before he regenerated and walked away, Jimmy can still fill the gap here.
The character is 61 years old. I have seen 60+ year old men in good shape. But unless Michael is like a prisoner who is allowed to enter a courtyard with a gym and everything, I don’t see how this is going to work.
I can see why you would prefer the Rob Zombie version better than the original. On its own, the Rob Zombie version does give us a raw, inside look at what makes a killer (bullying, domestic abuse, poor family background, shitty institution with people who are scummier than you). For those reasons, I love the Rob Zombie film.
But I can also see why others hate the Rob Zombie film as well, because some prefer Michael Myers to not be answered, to remain a mystery. He's a force of nature in the original film, he cannot be explained logically, he knows things that he shouldn't like driving a car. Whereas in the remake he's a result of nurture, his family background, growing up in the shady institution, his psychiatrist writes a book about him to profit off the blood of his family, and then leaves him.
I like the original film just fine, but I point out flaws it has on the technical level, like the palm trees in the background where its supposed to be Illinois, the inside of the Wallace house and the Doyle house does not match with their exteriors. But yet despite the flaws, everyone seems to not notice them or forget about them, and that's how much of a powerful impact the original film has that people can just forget those little technical details.
She probably has PTSD from the whole thing. Plus, he primarily stalked her that entire day, and he killed her friends before coming after her. She’s the only one that escaped. She probably thinks he wants to come back and finish the job. I do agree with you, though. Even if she did have PTSD, she is acting like they’re still siblings sort of.
H2 is a fairly decent sequel, taking place right after the first one. But it introduces that sibling aspect the Rob Zombie remake had, and it’s problematic to most of the sequels in this franchise, and kind of makes Michael look dumb for wasting so much time in the first film.
H3 is better than most of the sequels because it has nothing to do with Michael Myers. (The original film is watched by a few of our characters throughout the movie, showing that this third film is not in the same universe as the first two films). It shows that the franchise could have been an anthology franchise, but everyone likes Michael Myers too damn much, so we got H4.
H4 follows H2, and begins what we call the Thorn trilogy. It is just a 10 year later updated repeat of the first one, but it’s entertaining in some parts.
H5 is a very rushed follow up to H4. So rushed it definitely shows in its execution.
Curse, depending on which version you watch, follows up H5 and introduces a lot of new mythos to the franchise (a mythos that makes no goddamn sense when you stop and think about all the films leading up to this point). It also tries to connect to Halloween 3 in some aspects, despite that film and the Michael Myers storyline being in separate universes. It is also the “kind of” wrap up of the Thorn trilogy, depending which version you watch. Doesn’t really matter which version you watch, because this storyline doesn’t get resolved. Ever.
H20 decides to pretend that only the first and second film happened, and tries to give a conclusion to the franchise. But H20 made a lot of money, so we get....
Resurrection. This one follows on the H20 storyline. The first 10 to 15 minutes are awful. The rest of the movie is just...meh. Everyone hates for many reasons, but the biggest one is that this was the last installment of the original series.
RZ’s H2, regardless of which version you watch, might be a tough watch for you, but I kind of found it ambitious but still messy.
I agree with you, although I’m not a fan of the Mask.
As for Once Upon a Time, I got little to work with here, other than what I've researched here, but bare with me if I get something (or a lot of things) wrong. If I remember the show correctly, up until the 7th season, it focuses on Jared Gilmore and Jennifer Morrison. Ginnifer Goodwin gets top billed probably because of her popularity on HBO's Big Love, and Jennifer second for being on House, MD. Jared was a child actor at the time, so others would be listed above him, namely Lana Parrilla and Josh Dallas. I can't attest to my knowledge of Lana Parrilla being the better actress than Ginnifer or Jennifer, so I'll take your word for it as of now.
Personally, though, I don't think credit billing should be done based on "higher profiles" or "being properly rewarded for worth". My whole thing is either "main cast from most amount of screen time to least" or "main characters from most important to least important". Either one, because I've seen shows or movies dedicate most of its time on certain characters, despite another character or others being the main leads. Bates Motel, overall, is about Norman Bates (Freddie Highmore). But, his mother Norma Bates (Vera Farmiga), gets top billed, even in the last season when its almost exclusively Freddie Highmore's show by that point. The actress's profile puts her billed above the main character since the beginning. But at the same time, you put her and Highmore in the same room, same scene, she trumps him. Put him with others, he trumps them. And same thing to her with others. But together, she trumps him. Regardless, though, I see her as a supporting character to HIS story overall, and she should be billed as second, because he is the main lead.
Kit Harington and Emilia Clarke are, technically, the two main leads of the ensemble cast of Game of Thrones overall. Yet, we get a lot of screentime focused on Peter Dinklage and Lena Headey, who are also billed above those two, because they are better actors and more intriguing characters.
I haven't really bothered with the Marvel films, so you're good. I've seen Iron Mans 1, 2 and bits of 3. Can't remember jack from any of them, other than Robert Downey Jr made me laugh at the time of watching them. I've seen The Avengers (found it ok), Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 (very good in my opinion), bits and pieces of Agents of Shield, and that is it. So I got little to work with if I wanted to talk about the actress's work, namely just her episodes in the first season.
I haven't really been bothering watching this second season at all, namely because I'm focusing on other things, and for some reason I have found it less time consuming to just read a recap online, and come here to read comments or complaints about the episode. Call me weird, but that's what I've been doing, mostly with shows that I lost interest in, but plan to revisit, namely Fargo Season 3, The Walking Dead Seasons 7 through 8, Once Upon a Time since Season 1 and onward (seen bits and pieces throughout the years), and now this show.
I don't know how the actress has been doing in terms of acting as of this season, but from what I remember last season, the actress was serviceable at best, but the weakest of the main cast. I kept hoping Season 2 would open with her violently getting gunned down or murdered, due to her character and not the performance. I didn't watch the premiere, but I found the new intro on YouTube, and when I saw the actress's promotion with the main leads, I'm like "Oh great, more of this bitch." And when I found out about her role in Thor: Ragnarok, I thought "Oh, she's gonna stick around for a while then, so no thanks."
In Season 1, it was Evan Rachel Wood, Thandie Newton, Jeffrey Wright and James Marsden in the top four. At the very end of the main cast, we had "With Ed Harris", "And Anthony Hopkins". These six are given special treatment than the other cast members because A) They're more or less the main characters and B) They get credited in all the episodes, even in the ones that they don't appear in. The only people to appear in all episodes of Season 1 were Thandie Newton, Jeffrey Wright and Anthony Hopkins. And so far with the recent episode, Jeffrey Wright has been the only cast member to appear in all episodes of Season 2, but also all episodes of the show overall.
In Season 1, there were 11 other cast members between James Marsden and "With Ed Harris". These people were A) only credited in the episodes they appeared in and B) credited in alphabetical order. Season 2 is done the same way, with a few changes, one of them is boosting Tessa Thompson up as a main character with the other remaining five main characters, now that the Anthony Hopkins character is dead. As for WHY her character got a boost, either A) They're giving her character a lot more to do this season, so they boost her up. But more than likely it's because of B) Because of the actress's somewhat recent boost to the mainstream eye with her co-starring Thor: Ragnarok back in November.
Just a thought...Nick could have listened to Morgan and not kill Ennis.
I got roped into the hype of the show during its 4th or 5th season. Binge watched all the way up til midway through season 5, and watched it live from then to the very last episode of season 6. I, like everyone else, would very much like my time back.
Honestly, the only purpose of the misled is to fake us the audience out rather than Sidney. If they wanted to get away with it, Billy should have stayed upstairs, Stu would have gotten back in and get the upperhand on Sidney, and kill her. Maybe Sidney finds her dad tied up in the closet and then Stu kills her in front of her father. Randy would have gotten inside and Stu would have killed him too. THEN, Billy should come downstairs, revealing himself to the audience to be the mastermind. They'll kill Sid's dad right then and there, and maybe Billy stabs Stu to death as a double cross so there are no loose ends.
Then Billy would be in the hospital, and he can explain the fake blood as a prank they did earlier in the night. I can believe Billy claiming that under those circumstances, with as little loose ends as possible and less sloppy execution like we saw in the movie, but with what we saw in the movie itself, I just don't buy it. Preferably, maybe Billy disposes of that shirt somehow (maybe hide it in the spare tire compartment of someone's car), puts an identical white shirt over, and just act like that never happened.
Also, with Billy in the hospital thinking he got away with it, reveal that Gale survived and the cameras are still in the house. Possible final showdown between Gale and Billy. Gale kills Billy. Dewey can survive in this version or die, it don't matter to me.
Considering that Billy was a suspect the night prior, regardless if he was cleared as a suspect, it would still look suspicious that he would have fake blood all over him, especially if he and Stu claimed they pulled a prank. Its kind of coincidental that they would pull a rather messy prank the night a masked killer is lurking around the house, again especially at Stu's house, with Stu and one of the previous suspects being the only survivors. The police would look into it regardless of what Billy and Stu say had happened.
Plus, considering that most of the plan seemed to be made up on the fly as they went along (the use of the gun, stabbing each other before making sure Gale, Dewey, and Randy were dead), they probably would have came up with an excuse for the fake blood on the fly. I'd doubt they would say a friend helped with the prank, considering everyone left the party, and those who did would testify that they did not. Billy and Stu more than likely say that Randy was in on the prank, and unbeknownst to the duo, Randy survived the gunshot wound, and the police would know that whatever story they told them is bullshit.
The sex angle was a bad attempt at dry humor on my part to show the ridiculousness of Billy trying to explain away the fake blood in with the sex angle in a deadpan manner. I thought it would demonstrate how ridiculous it would be to explain away the fake blood by using that scenario. But looking back on it, the scenario is more ridiculous than the ridiculousness of trying to explain the fake blood. Still, I got to be the guy who laughs at his bad attempts at jokes.
Let me start off by correcting myself. Billy says “corn syrup”, yes, but I’m not taking his word at face value that that was 100% straight corn syrup. Why? Because that shit all over his shirt looks nothing like straight corn syrup. If you’ve seen corn syrup in a bottle, it looks nothing like the color red at all. All over his shirt has to a mixture of corn syrup, water and red food coloring, but it’s not 100% corn syrup.
The reason why the “corn syrup based fake blood” on his shirt would be suspect is because it makes it look like he got stabbed. Some of that fake blood might be on the floor in the bedroom upstairs where Billy got “stabbed”. Now, let’s assume in the movie’s logic that that was meant to be 100% straight corn syrup passing as fake blood, and not a corn syrup based mixture. I’ve never had the taste of straight corn syrup myself, but I’ve never met people who have eaten corn syrup straight either. I’d doubt Billy would use the excuse that he spilled corn syrup all over himself in the bedroom, or even say that he drank it straight in the bedroom without using it to bake something with it.
How would Billy explain the corn syrup all over him? That he and Sidney used corn syrup as a lubricant? I don’t think so, because A) the cops wouldn’t believe that for one second. B) no corn syrup would be found around or in Sidney’s vagina if she was found dead and C) regardless if it was meant to be 100% straight corn syrup in the movie, it still looks like fake blood based in corn syrup, and not straight corn syrup. So again, how can Billy explain that?
“Me and Sidney were role playing with fake blood in the bedroom. I was the victim. Yes I know, with her being attacked last night and me being the prime suspect, that sounds like in bad taste, but believe me, we did it. It’s my word over hers because she’s dead and I’m not. Not suspicious in the slightest. It got all over my shirt while we were screwing. Yes, my shirt was on while we were screwing, and the fake blood somehow did not get anywhere on her naked body, or her bra and panties, or the sheets and bed cover while we screwed. Just on the floor, and nowhere on the bed where we screwed.”
100% agree with you
#4) These idiots were stabbing themselves to appear to have been attacked before they could kill Sidney and her dad. Hell, they started stabbing themselves before making sure Randy died from the gunshot wound. Jesus, Dewey was unconscious for god knows how long and managed to live. And again, they thought Gale died when she wrecked the van when she didn't. Let's say they disarm the gun and keep it on them, then proceed to stab themselves, then Sidney and her dad. Gale would've walked in, and neither one of them would have had the strength to chase after her if she were to run away from them.
#5). If somehow by some miracle Stu or Billy managed to pull all of the aforementioned issues above off, the corn syrup on Billy's shirt would be suspect.