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What he did might be worth the risk if 1) the garbage people were rational (they seem to be crazy, at least the leader) and 2) he knew that they would get word soon that the Saviors were in serious trouble. Under the circumstances what he did was an idiotic gamble. They may believe that the Saviors are still a force to be reckoned with, which is basically true.
I got a chance to look at it again with the sound on and pay full attention. Some worker DID pull a gun out, Gavin yelled 'Gun!' and that's when the Savior shot the worker before he could shoot. It's not clear who the worker was trying to shoot or what he was trying to accomplish.
Also, it appears that he was shot in the torso, which is weird because it would have to be a really good shot to shoot someone in the torso in that crowd without hitting anyone else. It didn't appear he was downed with a head shot. Although I've complained about how unrealistic the shooting scenes are, I guess I can let this slide even though I think you'd have to thread a needle to shoot that guy the way she did.
It's possible there is an entire subplot that I've missed related to that worker getting the gun and trying to take a shot.
Manowar2010
Didn't Rick get stabbed by a knife or sword in his hand that had either just been thrust through a zombie or was thrust through a zombie and into his hand almost instantaneously? I wondered if that would cause him to get infected but obviously that didn't happen.
My first thought was Gallipoli when I saw this days ago, (but I didn't have time to research this until now), which it is:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd1Fn4gHYac&t=1m22s[/url]
[url]https://moviechat.org/tt0082432/Gallipoli[/url]
I hate that imdb got rid of the message boards. If this had been posted there with the traffic the site had, this would have been solved in hours instead of days.
Ken
[quote]However, what Daryl did, twice, was creepy. He killed the guy
holding Rick at gunpoint, and then he killed the kid after Rick
had given him his word. In Daryl's defense though, it was a fair
call either way in both of those situations, and he saved Rick from
having to make the call.[/quote]
I have no problems with what Daryl did to Morales. He was holding Rick at gunpoint, and every second they waited there would give the Saviors Morales had called more time to arrive and find them.
As for the guy he killed after Rick gave him his word that he wouldn't be killed, I don't think I would have done that, but there weren't really any good options. If he lets him go, the Savior could find Negan and let him know that Rick is going to try and seize the Brownings (which Negan probably already knows, but Rick wouldn't know that). They don't exactly have a police car to take him in either. If they injured him to slow him down and then left him, he'd probably die anyway.
It's currently not feasible for Rick's group to be taking prisoners. Or the Hilltop either (taking the number of prisoners they took was stupid in my opinion). The Kingdom and the Sanctuary might be the only places that has the number of guards and facilities to house that number of prisoners feasibly.
Another thing to keep in mind, if you take prisoners, you've usually got to provide them food, medicine, etc., which is already hard to get for your own group during a zombie apocalypse.
Hello, can you please let us know (roughly) how old you are or when you watched the movie? We aren't psychic, but this information will really help to narrow down the possible answers.
The movie 'The Housemaid' from 2010 ends with the maid hanging herself and setting herself on fire, but this movie is probably too recent based on what you described (it's also Korean). This was the third remake of the film, but I don't know if the other versions also ended with the maid hanging herself at the end.
Manowar2010
What does she mean "far too young"? Her claim of harassment may be valid, but wouldn't that imply she was under 18 at the time it happened? She turned 18 in 2000 and doesn't have any credits prior to 2006. Has she elaborated on when and where it happened?
By the way, in case anyone is interested, at least some of that band are still performing and recording music today! Here's a link to their youtube page:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCclBNmu2smI_vib_7NzhWAw[/url]
[quote]You are right about the song's theme, no doubt at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfight_at_the_O.K._Corral[/quote]
Actually, the singer did reply to me, he actually replied very quickly, I just haven't had time to post here. He said, and I won't quote him exactly, that the song was inspired when he was jamming the riff with someone and the other person with him told him "you are a tombstone sent for me" (the first lyrics in the song) and that the rest of the song went from there. He said it didn't have a really deep meaning, more of a love/hate song.
I think, due to the name of the song they chose the art work with the victims of the OK Corral gunfight since it fit the title even if the song wasn't specifically about the gunfight or Earp's vendetta ride AFTER the gunfight in retaliation to the retaliation suffered by his brothers (which was my theory until he messaged me).
He said as far as he knew, all of the samples were from Stagecoach and were of John Wayne. i couldn't find the first quote in any of the online scripts for either the film or radio version, but it's possible the transcribers missed it. I was able to find one of the quotes in the film because the radio script gave me a rough estimate of where it would be, but I'm not sure where exactly the "Three of them! I see 'em" would be without watching the entire movie since it's in neither online script.
"By the way, your metallic name reminds me of an imdb user who had helped me identify another very rare song. rock and disco, very cheesy and unique"
Yeah, that was me on the old imdb INTK board. I think some of the other users migrated here, I just wish there was more activity and users like starcore, willEd posted here. I liked that Mandera track, it kind of reminds of lo-fi stuff like Ariel Pink. I I wish that guy also posted the full audio for the A side of that record "Requiem to Studio 54" that track sounded good too.
Good Job! What clue helped you identify it? I'm still curious as to the source of the sample at the beginning and as to what inspired the song or what it is about. I sent a message to one of the writers of the song (the singer), not sure if he will see it or reply.
I'm thinking, based on the title and the cover art for the vinyl, that the song may be about Wyatt Earp's vendetta ride after the Gunfight at the OK Corral, but not sure.
Manowar2010
[quote]Mid 80s, radioplay, about a shadowy stealthy hero whose radio version has the power to cloud men's minds, so they could not see him, an invisible avenger (1958 movie title), who kills a priest http://thelivingshadow.wikia.com/wiki/Terror_Island_(Radio_Show)[/quote]
Yeah, I should have mentioned 'The Shadow'. That was also a very famous show back in the day, perhaps THE most famous radio show. I didn't mention it is because the Shadow was actually the protagonist and not a villain. I knew he was a crime fighter, but I didn't know he had anything that could be considered super powers (the Shadow was also a famous pulp/comic). Since the song seemed more along a horror, I didn't mentioned it, but obviously there could be a connection. For some reason I thought the Shadow was just a regular guy like 'The Saint', another crime/detective radio show from the same era.
As for the album, I doubt it has any sort of music similar to that track in it, but it's possible. From this description, it looks like it's mainly interviews with the original voice actors and writers with a few complete episodes at the end:
[url]http://radiolacompany.com/product/the-story-of-shadow-the-white-legion/[/url]
As for the Shadow episode 'Terror Island', I doubt any of the samples come from that episode, since that episode is supposedly lost.
Assuming the track with the samples is from a professionally produced recording, I think you are on the right track to pursue any connections with the label owning the rights to the radio version of 'Stagecoach'. I'm not 100% certain that the line 'there are some things a man can't run away from' is NOT also on the radio version, but a quick search didn't show it in the transcript I saw online. I didn't bother to listen to the whole show to verify it. I did though, watch the film version and viewed the scene where right before the line "going to take a slow walk down main street' would be and it's definitely not in the film.
I don't know, but it took me awhile to realize that what she is saying is most likely "Full Moon" and perhaps "Full Moon Widow". None of the other lyrics return anything from a google search either. It could be from some type of werewolf movie or show if my listening is correct.
The song seems to be done fairly well, you may want to try some folk or Celtic style music boards and see if anyone can recognize the singer.
[quote]"some things… just heaven ?? on Earth"[/quote]
That's from Stagecoach as well, but that line IS in the film version. I don't think it was in the radio version, which as I mentioned, was adapted from the film version, with some lines added in. So the song has some samples from the radio show that weren't in the film, and some samples from the film that weren't in the radio show! Anyways, the quote is "well, there are some things a man just can't run away from". That is actually probably the most famous of the quotes in the song, but it's one of the hardest to hear.
I am also perplexed by the lack of connection between the lyrics and the quotes from Stagecoach, a Western. The only connection I see is the line about a tombstone but that is probably just random. The samples at the beginning are more consistent with the song's lyrics - talking about shadows, etc. The sample at the beginning sounds like it could also be from some type of old film horror or radio horror program with someone like Christopher Lee. One of the voices sounds like Christopher Lee but I can't find any connection to the lines (it sounds more like Frank Langella actually).
Horror actor John Carradine was in the film Stagecoach, but that's a very loose connection and none of the samples appear to sound like him.
I don't know what the song or artist is, but some or maybe all of the dialogue is from a radio broadcast.
Using some google-fu, the dialogue in the middle "I'll just take a slow walk down Main Street and see what happens..." is from a radio broadcast of the 1939 version of Stagecoach in which John Wayne and Claire Trevor reprised their roles. It appears that the line from the track you posted was not in the film version but was added for the radio broadcast, probably to be more conducive to a listening audience (no visuals). I'm assuming that most of the remaining audio from this broadcast was taken straight from the film soundtrack, however. Here's a link to the mp3 of the broadcast, the line in question occurs about 23:25: [url]https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.com/drama/the-screen-directors-playhouse/stagecoach-1949-01-09[/url]
The dialogue at the beginning sounds like it could be from a radio show too, perhaps some type of detective/cop show like Dragnet, although it could fit a Western like Stagecoach too. My guess is the audio in this potentially postpunk/dark wave song was sampled for the song rather than the song being featured in a movie, especially since it appears they come from different sources.
Is there any possibility the samples were 'randomly' added by some amateur fan of either the group or the respective radio/films?
Sounds like "The Last Seduction" from 1994 with Linda Florentino. if that isn't it, try something similar like Jade.
Manowar2010
Did you check out Death Race 2000? It's from 1975 and David Carradine plays Frankenstein, who is supposedly disfigured due to a burn accident or something similar (in fact he wasn't really disfigured, the plot explains why he wore the mask). I don't remember the running scene you mention, but Death Race 2000 would be the type of mainstream movie that it would appear in.
Manowar2010
This sounds like 'Friday the 13th Part Two', but I think that was a pitchfork and not a spear. It may be one of the other sequels in the series.
Manowar2010
Run Lola Run?
I think you may need to watch that scene again. She may have fallen asleep as others have suggested, but I don't think that is what is implied. You can see from the aftermath of the car crash that the road had a very sharp curve, and my interpretation was that she simply was too focused on the details of the presentation/case, almost in a daze, that she didn't notice the curve. This would be possible if she were travelling at a high speed based on what the curve looked like.
However, other posters may be right that it was implied that she fell asleep, but the way the scene cut so quickly that's not how I viewed it. I will rewatch it later today.
Manowar2010
I thought she was just trying to ward off the bugs that were drawn toward her because she is dead and her body is slowly decomposing.