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Why do people hate movies that show empowered women?


In response to Elizabeth Banks' recent comments to say the least:
http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/593220/people-movies-show-empowered-women?page=10

“Look, people have to buy tickets to this movie, too. This movie has to make money,” she said. “If this movie doesn’t make money it reinforces a stereotype in Hollywood that men don’t go see women do action movies.”

Charlie's Angels 2000 and 2003 made half a billion between them.

"They’ll go and see a comic book movie with Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel because that’s a male genre,”

So why make another version of Charlie's Angels which was created by two men and produced by Aaron Spelling?

“So even though those are movies about women, they put them in the context of feeding the larger comic book world, so it’s all about, yes, you’re watching a Wonder Woman movie but we’re setting up three other characters or we’re setting up ‘Justice League.’”

Justice League was critically panned and made less money than the far better reviewed Wonder Woman.

"By the way, I’m happy for those characters to have box office success,” Banks adds, “but we need more women’s voices supported with money because that’s the power. The power is in the money.”

Or maybe a better writer and director.

“You’ve had 37 Spider-Man movies and you’re not complaining!” Banks said

Spider-Man is profitable..

“My real plea is for men to have enough empathy to go watch a movie starring women”.

They did. But she dismissed those movies as being in the "male genre" even though Wonder Woman was directed by a woman, and Captain Marvel was co written and directed by women.

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Think appealing to both men and women would be one of the first order of business to insure the movie would do decently enough.

A feminist movie was never going to be a easy sell with any major demographic.

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Here is an article explaining with facts how female lead movies are outperforming males, do I don't think people do hate movie with empowered women.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/female-led-films-outperform-male-led-movies-at-box-office/

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It would be a question worth asking if this movie had empowered women. This film is about entitled girls.

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maybe no one wanted to see a Charlie's Angels movie maybe the fan base is 50 and 60 and not teenagers and 20 year olds

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So she pleads for men to watch movies starring women and when she gets examples of that she says it doesn't count because that would contradict her narrative. What the hell is wrong with this woman? Why can't some people just accept that their movies sucked? It's Ghostbusters 2016 all over again.

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Bell bottoms(bootcut) > skinny jeans

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This is a pretty complex question that goes way beyond this one movie.

The short answer: Too many people in the movie business are exploiting the idea of female empowerment to sell films, where the empowerment comes first, above the film part; often, the importance of that part gets left out almost altogether. And the thing is, they’re not even getting the empowerment part right. Thus, a wave of subpar women-led movies that are doing more to undermine the message they’re trying to sell than any anti-message film or anti-fan ever could, like Charlie’s Angels, Ghostbusters, Ocean’s 8, etc.

The long answer: Audiences have a strange relationship with film and female empowerment. There’s a very stay-in-your-lane attitude towards heroines, especially when it comes to women who are sexually desirable vs women who could be men. It’s the reason why Sarah Connor of Terminator 2 and Ripley were the gold standard for SF heroines for basically ever, even though people often didn’t consider Sarah Connor a heroine in The Terminator. It’s why people hated Wonder Woman before they watched the film and now hate Captain Marvel not having seen the film, but they love Scarlett Johansson and Charlize Theron in almost every heroine role they've played.

Also, concerning female characters, there’s this very fine line between sexual empowerment and sexual exploitation, and it seems like audiences can’t really definitively decide where that line should lie. That goes for a lot of directors, too. The current answer seems to be to forget about sexuality altogether. For example, in the ne Charlie’s Angels, we might get gratuitous shots of K-Stew’s bum, but there’s very little love interest interaction. And guess what? That’s pretty boring for everyone – sad to say, but we’re almost programmed to want some love interest action and to see a little celebration of these women's sexuality. For example, the hair flip in the former Charlie’s Angels film, while cheesy, was also kind of iconic.

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