The new Scoops AHoy girl..(Spoilers)
Is she supposed to be a lesbian or bi?
shareA lesbian from what she tells Steve near the end of the season in the bathroom stall, she doesn't mention anything about ever liking a boy or dating one so i have to assume shes just a lesbian.
shareI think she's a lesbian. Otherwise she might've been interested in Steve. This was yet another moment you thought you knew where things were going but then ... no! Poor Steve. Ever since he stopped being a jerk he's had absolutely no luck with the ladies.
shareWhen she came out to Steve I was like damn, poor guy can't catch a break!
shareSeeing as how this show has descended into attempting to be "socially relevant" to the here and now, Steve should have said that he identifies as a woman. Their relationship could thence commence.
shareIf it was set today, that confession would've been no big deal. Back then being gay was something very few people admitted to. Hawkins isn't San Fransisco. It's rural Indiana. If the townsfolk knew she'd be a pariah. That's why she was acting like she'd done something terrible, and if Steve knew he wouldn't even want to be friends with her anymore. But then she felt like he wouldn't understand if she just rejected him - so she told him the truth.
shareThat was pretty contrived. She didnt have to speak to Steve like 10 minutes to let him Believe she was completely into him just to finally humiliate him by pretending she's gay after all.
sharePretty much from the first episode you figured Steve and Robin were going to get together. Finally after the Russian bunker, they wind up alone - and still under the influence of that disinhibiting truth serum. You figure this is it, they'll at least get in a kiss before one of the kids or a Russian with a gun walks in on them. But no. Steve makes his move and finds out she's not even into guys. After all that. I felt bad for him but it was funny!
shareIf it was set today, that confession would've been no big deal. Back then being gay was something very few people admitted to. Hawkins isn't San Fransisco. It's rural Indiana. If the townsfolk knew she'd be a pariah.
Lesbians existed in the 80s. I was there. I know.
shareI kept thinking that she looked like a cross between Ethan hawk and uma Thurman and I looked it up and sheβs their daughter lol. Sheβs a great character though, like Steveβs personal support lesbian.
shareI donβt see it at all but sheβs super cute. I liked her character as well.
shareYeah, never even occurred to me that she looks like anyone. Still don't quite see it.
Yeah, I started Googling pictures of them all and have determined she was adopted.
shareYou're kidding right?
https://www.jolie.de/sites/default/files/styles/image1024w/public/images/2018/07/19/maya-hawke.png
If you look at that photo of her and tell me she doesn't look like Uma, then with all due respect, you're blind. :-D
That was a real dick move of the writers; building up a relationship between her and Steve, and then suddenly dropping the gay bomb near the end. Wasn't the cast diverse enough without having to throw a gay person in? Does every tv show have to have a token LGBT these days?
Robin also took a huge risk telling Steve her orientation. There was an immense stigma towards gay people back in the 80s in most of America, mostly due to the AIDS epidemic going on, and there being a stronger Christian base in American culture back in those days. If she'd come out in some place like NYC, SF, or Los Angeles, nobody would have looked twice at her. But in rural Indiana?
I say again that she was taking a huge risk with Steve. Most people like her were still in the closet in those days, with good reason.
I was thinking that too actually.
shareYep, and agreed. It was quite unrealistic that she said anything at all. The gay bomb is for Hollywood political correctness and that's it, there was no sign in the character at all leading up to that point until the words were said.
shareThey had shared trauma and camaraderie (no pun intended) with a light dose of truth serum still in their systems. Plus she knew him well enough at that point, watching him be a surrogate big brother to a group of kids, to realize he probably wouldn't freak out and blab to everyone in town. It's good to be able to tell someone your secret.
shareYeah, as I replied in another thread, once you've been tortured (or threatened with), drugged and expect to be killed I think your perspective on life changes. Like, telling someone she's gay is the least important thing in her life at that moment.
shareExactly. Nearly getting killed with someone makes you pretty close.
shareI say again that she was taking a huge risk with Steve. Most people like her were still in the closet in those days, with good reason.
I was bummed out about the gay twist too...I was hoping they would get together. They were perfect for each other. It was fun watching them though even though it turned out that way in the end. They both did a great job. Some of the best stuff of the season.
Poor Steve, he can't even escape political correctness in 1985. Haha.
Really enjoyed season 3!
I think they will still have a meaningful relationship, just not the one we expected.
shareI had no idea that acknowledging gay people could have existed in the 80s is PC.
Anyways, I liked the addition. I liked the character and the "gay bomb" helped stave off the cliche kiss moment I was expecting.
Moral of the story is be a dick like Billy and old season 1 Steve to get the girls but as soon as you turn into nice-guy your luck runs out with them!
sharelol seems to be true in this show. Ever since Steve went soft he's struck out repeatedly. And look at Billy - he decides to become one of the good guys and thirty seconds later he gets skewered. No good deed goes unpunished. π
sharePerhaps they could have gone down an even lesser traveled road in Hollywood ...avoid the whole topic all together. Let teenagers just be friends without ever bringing up the subjects of relationships, sexuality, etc.
shareTeenagers not thinking about sex? Is that even physically possible? A boy and a girl, both single, who click, enjoy each other's company, go through a shared trauma, and nothing happens between them? One of them has to be gay then. That's the only way. Government conspiracies, super powered children, alien monsters from another dimension, I can suspend my disbelief for that stuff. But you ask too much! π
share"Perhaps they could have gone down an even lesser traveled road in Hollywood ...avoid the whole topic all together. Let teenagers just be friends without ever bringing up the subjects of relationships, sexuality, etc."
We're so used to seeing friends of the opposite sex hook up eventually that this idea seems so revolutionary.
Then again, Robin being lesbian also gets rid of the "will they, won't they" speculation for the next season (apparently the Duffers want to end it after 5).
chrisjdel...thatβs probably the same type answer I would give if I saw my post. Sarcasm at its finest. I love it.π
Ryker...very true it gets rid of that question
Also want to add that it cracks me up that people are bothered by the plausibility of there being a lesbian in the 80s lol. As if LGBT came out of the woodwork in the last decade.
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She's a carpet licker.
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