Beige, beige, beige, black, white...
The old Dune movie was stunning and bright. It is like nowadays when they make a sci fi movie it has to look as boring as possible, because they think it is taken more serisouly if they just avoid all colours.
That is a good question, I noticed it too, almost like it was shot by a different director, when compared to the aesthetic palate of part 1 , not saying that part 2 was done poorly just not in the same vein as part 1.
It’s almost like Denis was going for a completely different aesthetic tone in part 2, which doesn’t make sense to me as I thought he nailed the aesthetics in part 1.
I know what you mean. Even the '84 Dune and the 2000 miniseries had more colors than these two films.
I was particularly annoyed at the "black sun" and no colors concept on Geidi Prime, considering it was absolute BS in terms of scientific accuracy regarding stars. I talked about it here: https://moviechat.org/tt15239678/Dune-Part-Two/65e8db3df73f3872098c8321/Sorry-no-such-thing-as-a-black-sun
there is is no such thing as anything shown in any DUNE film
shareYou do realize this is science FICTION, right? Yes, the universe should be grounded in science, sure, but artistic liberties are more than welcome. Encouraged, even.
This is a weird hill to die on considering all the other impossible stuff that happens in Dune.
Most sci-fi stories try and follow the rules of real world science when it comes to things like sunlight, how the human eye works, etc. It's what separates them from fantasy stories. There's almost always a scientific explanation for how much of that world works, rather than just relying solely on magic. It's also part of how the author shows off their knowledge of the science they studied and integrate it into their writings. The concept of a "black sun" is not only laughable, it completely ignores how the human eye is designed to work, and basically shows that Villeneuve doesn't understand a damned thing about astrophysics or human biology. It's like watching someone go out into space without a spacesuit and not blow up like a balloon from decompression, or hurricanes going over land. (And for the record, Herbert never wrote anything about a "black sun" in the Geidi Prime star system. That was all Villeneuve).
I can accept highly advanced, mutated humans whose minds are advanced enough to be able to teleport starships across vast distances of space using extremely advanced math as a guide. I can accept giant alien worms living on a desert world with super-deep oceans of sand. I can accept advanced air and spacecraft being used. I can accept a weird alien drug that enhances the human mind and body. I can accept personal shields or stillsuits. All of that makes sense in a science fiction story. I can even accept starships going into a place almost between realities to be able to move faster than the speed of light, like what happens in Star Trek.
But to outright ignore astrophysics and normal human biology when it comes to a type of sun that doesn't exist? I call bullshit on that one, just like I called bullshit on the icy land hurricanes on "The Day After Tomorrow," and just like I called bullshit on Quill being able to go out into space with nothing to protect him but a mask and his clothes in "Guardians of the Galaxy."
It was shitty writing and Villeneuve trying to leave his own footprint on the Dune franchise, and he failed, miserably.
If the universe is not grounded in science then its not science fiction, its fantasy. And yes, Dune is fantasy, not science fiction.
shareWhat colours did the book mention? Maybe the director actually visited a desert!
shareThe desert and surroundings, you can't do much with, but what about the houses, interiour, clothes, makeup? Even tribes in Sahara have colourful outfits.
shareI agree. I would have really liked some color variation as well. There was ample opportunity to do so.
shareThe book was quite in depth all the way down to the colour of character eyes.
shareThe old Dune movie sucked ass. All the people suddenly reminiscing about Dune 84 being so great, Have you actually watched it ? The sandworms look like sockpuppets. Literally.
There is plenty , plenty to criticize about the 1984 Dune. One of the main things is it just doesn't stand up to the other 80s sci fi movies. The competition is ridiculous. The original Terminator, Empire Strikes Back. Dune 1984? Come on... it certainly tells the Dune story, to an effect, but it's really not a great film. Extending it didn't help either, it was just like extending LOTR: Needless.
I've watched Dune(1984) multiple times. I never tire of it either. It's weird and creative. I like weird and creative things. Plus I thought the direction was very well done. There are scenes that look like poetry to me. There are images that look like art.
shareI love weird and creative films, but if I want that i'll watch Return to Oz, full of weird 80s effects but IMO a much better movie. There's tons of great 80s weird fantasy/sci fi movies to watch other than Dune 1984.
shareI watched those others also. I don't have to stop watching Dune(1984) because there are other weird and creative films out there.
shareMost new movies look like colorless crap. It's a modern trend.
shareAgreed. Calladan is supposed to be blue because of the oceans. Dune is supposed to have red because the Spice is red. Geide Prime is supposed to be green.
I'm like, whatever at this point. A lot of color blind people like science fiction now.
well, i really like it. I find it mesmerizing. I mean, how do you know all the worlds out there in the universe are all colorful? The most memorable for me is the Harkonnen coliseum scene, it's almost black and white only and i can't take my eyes off it. Just because it's colorless doesn't mean it's boring. Michael Bay's movies are usually with the most vivid colors, so you know what i mean.
shareColor Grading aggressively in movies started with "Saving Private Ryan." There, the subtle work done worked beautifully, and it is still easily the best work done using modern color grading technology. After that, I think filmmakers thought, "Oh, let's do this kind of thing ourselves." But then, they can just go way too far like in these two "Dune" movies where there is almost no color left at all. I am going to take a wild guess that the filmmakers didn't see, or just plain ignored the beautiful, legendary cinematography in "Lawrence of Arabia," where even the more monochromatic desert can be made beautiful. I think they just take the color sliders on their graphics workstation and take all the color out of movies like this. I still haven't seen "Part Two" except for the trailers and scenes posted on YouTube, and this near-colorless stuff is definitely a reason why.
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