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All those blinking lights...


Kinda similar to Star Trek, back in the day. The filmmakers weren't aware of what technology in the future would look like...so instead, they figured....just like an airplane, a spaceship would probably have lots and LOTS of switches and buttons that light up. Just rows and rows of them, all OVER the place. No computer screens or holograms or virtual reality, etc.

Just lots of switches and blinking lights! That should do the trick.
LOL, how did that ship ever get off the ground!

Plus, they had enough technology for galactic travel....but not enough for each of them to have cell phones?

There’s just something….incongruous about it. But again, it’s just interesting how they attempt to forecast.

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Yeah, and those green screen monitors. But that was our image of high tech at the time. I was a kid but it seemed futuristic.

GUIs and touchscreens were a long way away.

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LOL, it's kinda like those movies from the 70's, in which the story takes place in the future (like Logan's Run...Rollerball, etc...). Rollerball is a great example. In the mid-70's, the filmmakers must have thought the future would have cool doors that open in a vortex style....or with the top and bottom coming together like a mouth closing, ha ha.

It cracks me up...because, in the case of Rollerball, at least they got the big screen TV right. But James Caan's apartment still had SHAG CARPET! Haaa!

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Yeah. It's fun watching those old Science Fiction movies and seeing what they got wrong. The rest of the technology in Alien still looks fairly convincing, though, I think. That grungy, industrial look is still pretty influential. It's only the IT that's aged really poorly.

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Shag carpet is coming back!

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Actually, the Nostromo is not meant to be "high tech". It is an old ship class, very analog.
It does not represent the "peak technology" of the time.

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Yeah, I know. The movie is set in 2122. It's not "peak technology" for 2122, but those old green CRT monitors are already totally obsolete and have been for decades. Even really cheap LCD monitors built in the present are better. Why would they go back to single color CRT monitors when building a ship years in our future?

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Actually it’s really not that obsolete. The Nostromo was about functionality over form. Its design is pretty much like any industrial vehicle or hub, lots of switches and lo-res monitors. It most resembles the control room of a ship, airplane, or submarine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine#/media/File%3AUSS_Seawolf_(SSN_21)_Control_Room_HighRes.jpg

At any rate, it’s a lot more convincing than the Prometheus was.

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Prometheus with his super high tech was just laughable.
Sometimes, less is more.

I also love how in Covenant they still used TODAYS assault rifles and holosights (EOTeech to be precise).
At least ALIENS tried to be futuristic about weapons (and succeeded albeit the designs being anything but practical).

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They started building that submarine in 1989. Here's what a modern submarine looked like in 2010: https://www.cnet.com/news/inside-the-worlds-most-advanced-submarine/

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THey practically look the same...

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Are you even looking at the displays and IT stuff?

That stuff looks nothing alike. Color, lcd style monitors. Much more advanced graphics.

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All I'm seeing are video screens (which the Nostromo has) and next to them are smaller screens with some pixels communicating information. Which the Nostromo has... it's just a bunch of boxey equipment and wiring. You're not getting very far with your point. If you're going to complain about the ship's computers "not having fancier graphics" then you might as well complain that the Alien wasn't CGI.

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"All I'm seeing are video screens (which the Nostromo has) and next to them are smaller screens with some pixels communicating information. Which the Nostromo has"

So in your mind they both have screens and pixels, it's all the same?
It's not just that the screens are color and have better graphics. The graphics and the way the information is displayed is a hell of a lot more complex, which shows you that the IT in the more modern ship is probably more advanced.

"If you're going to complain about the ship's computers "not having fancier graphics" then you might as well complain that the Alien wasn't CGI."

Apples and oranges. You're talking about how the special effects are done. I'm talking about how the information technology they are using in the movie works, what they are using on the ship. The state of the technology IN THE MOVIE UNIVERSE. I'll try to make the difference clear with an example. The spaceships in the new Star Wars movies look a little different than they did in the first one, back in 1977. However, to the characters in the movie, an X Wing was still an X Wing. The technology in the universe of the movie wasn't that different.

Edit: Since the whole thread is about whether the tech in the movie is believably futuristic, I think the output of their computers on their screens and graphics is pretty damn valid, anyway.

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which shows you that the IT in the more modern ship is probably more advanced.


The problem is you're trying to compare two real life things to fiction. The Nostromo is already far more advanced than any modern-day submarine. It can accomplish everything your example can and more. Next question.

I'm talking about how the information technology they are using in the movie works, what they are using on the ship.

THat's not apples and oranges, it's oranges and clementines. You realize that the information technology used in the film is also a "special effect" right? You're literally blaming the film's depiction of technology as being due to the lack of technology in the late 70s. Did you really expect them to implement GUIs for every computer in 1978? But at this point we're veering off topic into the behind-the-scenes aspects, which is irrelevant to the world and meaning of the film. IN the words of Roger Ebert, a film is only what it shows you and nothing more.

an X Wing was still an X Wing

An X wing has the advantage of not needing to be realistic. It's literally a Flash Gordon serial come to life. That's the real apples and oranges.

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Lol.

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I am sure that in 40 years people will be looking at 2020 science fiction and scoffing just as hard as we do at 1970s SF.

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I never really got this complaint. Spaceships do not need to look like something out of Star Trek. What we see in Alien is somewhat realistically how things would develop. Even the control room of the Nostromo is pretty much the same as a modern-day spaceship cockpit. http://www.launchphotography.com/Endeavour_Flight_Deck.html

Why exactly would a floating mining rig need virtual reality or holograms?

Also why would they need cell phones when they all have access to long range communication headsets anyway?

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It's just an interesting (and sometimes amusing) dichotomy. Star Wars is full of them. There's enough technology in that universe for space ships, hyper-drive, lasers, cybornetics, etc....yet virtually no one has a means of communicating with each other (i.e. cell phones) except for an occasional walkie-talkie-esque device. Enough technology for robots with AI and personalities...yet R2-D2 can't vocalize in English and communicates with beepity-beeps.

Shatner even poked fun of all the silly rows of lights on the Enterprise in his cameo in Airplane II. It's just funny....because filmmakers at the time the movie is made....have to guess at what technology will look like way in the future. Heck, it changes so quickly these days...technology can look obsolete in a just a few years.

Blade Runner is another one. Enough technology for flying cars....but yet there are still pay phones.

In a movie like Alien....I'd expect even the most BASIC of mining rigs to have modern (at least modern by 2122 standards....or even 2020 standards, ha ha) technology. They're still flying in space and that requires quite a bit of technology, whether it be a mining rig or a super-galactic space cruiser.

The point is, the filmmakers did the best they could with forecasting...not knowing how omnipresent computers and computer screens would become. Typically, to fill in the gaps (when it comes to cool-looking visual technology)....the filmmakers of those times defaulted to.....rows and rows of blinkity lights and switches, ha ha.

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Star Wars is not hard sci-fi. It’s space fantasy. It doesn’t need to be realistic. Blade Runner is dystopian cyber-punk. It’s an alternate future.

In a movie like Alien....I'd expect even the most BASIC of mining rigs to have modern technology


The Nostromo does have modern tech. In fact, it is more advanced than anything we have today. They have artificial gravity, cryogenic freezing, synthetic humanoids, laser weaponry, a supercomputer that controls all environmental and automated functions, and the ability to go faster than light. If you looked at the pictures I shared, it looks pretty much like a modern spaceship. Space travel is not spandex suits and sleek silver corridors, it is dirty, cramped, and mundane. Those “rows and rows of blinking lights and switches” are what any basic cockpit’s going to have, as you noted in your post.

Ron Cobb spent a lot of time and detail visualizing how a giant tow-truck in deep space 100 years from now would realistically and logically function. I would even argue that Alien has aged the best in terms of a vision of our near-future.

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thanks for making sense

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So how do YOU know technology won't be like that in 2122? Been there have you?

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Star Wars takes place a long time ago.

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Seriously……they have the technology for galactic space travel…..yet, no computers or cell phones?

Just square buttons, unlabeled toggle switches and blinking xmas lights.

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They don't need to look like they do in Star Trek, but it's absurd to think that even an industrial, no frills ship in 2100 would be using IT that looks like it came from the year 1989. All the ships computers using a text based UI running on a monochrome CRT would just not happen.

Monochrome CRTs are totally obsolete now in 2020. I don't think they even make them anymore other than maybe in limited numbers for replacement parts. LCDs not only look better but are better in every way that I can think of, and they can be cheap, even here in 2020. Even if you don't need color or a high resolution or any of that for what you're doing, you aren't going to go back to old, obsolete technology like a monochrome CRT with disadvantages like being bulkier. You'd just go with a cheap version of the current technology.

Also, in Alien they used those old fashioned monochrome CRTs for everything. Even their navigation programs. Why would they use a monitor that can't do more than crude line drawings when more advanced monitors can do so much more. Show more detailed, much higher res images, color, animations and more information, all at the same time. That'd be useful. Even on a no frills industrial ship you'd want that. And it makes no sense that Mother, the computer that runs the spaceship would use some ancient style of monitor either, using a totally text based UI. It's just absurd, really.

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using a text based UI running on a monochrome CRT would just not happen.


So basically your complaints boil down to the fact they're using CRT monitors. THat's such a frivolous concern. At the end of the day, a computer is merely a means of relaying information visually, which is what the Nostromo's computers accomplish. Also they're clearly not just "text based" considering it gives them trajectories into LV-426's atmosphere, amongst other things, such as video feed. Basically, everything a modern computer would do. Just not as aesthetically pleasing to your eye. Which it wasn't supposed to be.

you aren't going to go back to old, obsolete technology like a monochrome CRT with disadvantages like being bulkier


It's... a... computer screen. It gets the job done. If such a nitpicky detail bothers you that much, squint your eyes and pretend it's a flatscreen. No one other than computer nerds care about that stuff, and I doubt such a person has any willing suspension of disbelief for any movie.

Why would they use a monitor that can't do more than crude line drawings when more advanced monitors can do so much more


THe monitors can already do more. See above. The point is that the computers get the job done and are not what's important to the film. You might as well complain about Sigourney Weaver's 80s hairdo, or them all smoking cigarettes on the ship.

It's just absurd, really.


Yes, your comment is pretty absurd. Your entire argument is based on aesthetics and not the actual function or logic.

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This whole thread is about the technology and whether it seems believable... So shitting on me for a "nitpick" about the IT in the movie doesn't make much sense. Telling me I'm wrong and then trashing me for bringing up "computer nerd" stuff when I point out where you made a mistake is fucking stupid. Its OK to bring up the other technology in the movie though, still. It seems just the IT stuff is stupid to talk about, and only then after I disagreed with you.

I never said it was that important. It was just something to talk about here.

Anyhow...
I didn't say the computers could only do text. I said Mother had a text based UI. User interface. Like DOS had. That doesn't mean all the computers could only display text. Computer nerd stuff that first you say doesn't matter, but you are trying to tell me I'm wrong about it. OK.

And yeah, the computers could "relay information". My point stands that even on a no frills industrial ship they wouldn't be using ancient IT with all the flaws I pointed out, that's already totally obsolete in 2020. Even if they could get by wit that, they'd use stuff that was kind of lower end for around 2100, when the ship was built, not 1985. You think hipsters designed the ship?

"The monitors can already do more. See above. " The computer they did their navigating on was limited compared to even a low end 2020 computer. When the monitor displays data, the only graphics aren't much more than line drawings. It's not just the monitor but the computer that's the cause of that.

"Your entire argument is based on aesthetics and not the actual function or logic." No, durr, because the point is that even if the designers of the ship didn't care about aesthetics, they aren't going to revert back to tech that became obsolete 100 years ago. It's be the lower end of 2100 technology. Also, modern IT would be easier to use, relay data more efficiently-I'm not rehashing all the reasons.

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This whole thread is about the technology and whether it seems believable... So shitting on me for a "nitpick" about the IT in the movie doesn't make much sense.

Except it *is* believable. It accomplishes everything it needs to in the film's universe. Again, you're complaining about aesthetics that most people aren't even going to notice. Again, you might as well complain that the Nostromo looks like a model. You're trying to attack a diegetic issue as though it's non-diegetic.

where you made a mistake is fucking stupid

I didn't make any mistakes. Stop projecting and ad-homineming.

My point stands that even on a no frills industrial ship they wouldn't be using ancient IT with all the flaws I pointed out

Except it's not "ancient" in the universe of the film. Do you know anything about world building or verisimilitude? You're being an ignorant millenial and looking at everything from a 21st century lens.

Also, you're still ignoring the fact that the picture you showed of the "updated submarine cockpit" looks exactly like the Nostromo's. It's got square screens for relaying information, consoles with flashing buttons, and lots of tubes and wires. At the end of the day, functionality doesn't change that much. Your argument basically boils down to "the graphics on the screens aren't as fancy," which isn't much of an argument. IN the world of the film, it doesn't need to be. It conveys the basic information to the viewer to get the point across that they're using computers to run the ship. Computers that look pretty much the same as our own.

the only graphics aren't much more than line drawings.

And the graphics on any computer aren't just more than a bunch of dots, but when you put them together they convey images that our brain comprehends. What exactly is your point? The "graphics" get the job done. It's realistic that it would help them navigate through space.

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they aren't going to revert back to tech that became obsolete 100 years ago.

They're not "reverting" back to anything. They're not using smoke signals. They're using advanced computers to pilot a starship. Just because it doesn't look advanced to your nit-picky eyes doesn't mean it isn't.

Also, modern IT would be easier to use, relay data more efficiently-I'm not rehashing all the reasons.

Considering you never gave any "reasons" in the first place, I wouldn't expect you to go out of your way to actually bolster your argument. At the end of the day, the Nostromo's technology *is* easy to use *for* *the* *characters.* NO where in the film were they hampered by their IT being "outdated," as you describe, other than the fact they were piloting an old tug boat that was probably on its way to being decommissioned. At the end of the day, it got the job done.

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Oh for fuck's sake. "Outdated" in quotes? Yes, it's outdated. Outdated now in 2020, certainly outdated in the year this movie takes place in. There's a reason you don't see computers today, in 2020, using text based UIs like mother was. Putting that kind of IT on a ship built around 2100 would absolutely be reverting to old technology. That wouldn't make sense. Not on a sub built in 2010 (another point you're refusing to accept), and not on a spaceship built what, eighty years from now.

I gave a list of reasons why, you're just ignoring them. A more modern UI isn't just prettier, it's easier to use, etc. Your whole "it's an old tugboat", "it gets the job done" line doesn't make sense. Even if the crew weren't hampered as you put it by the IT they were using, EVEN IF THAT TECHNOLOGY WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO COMPLETE THEIR MISSION, even if it were just superficial things like graphics that don't matter (which isn't the case- there's advantages to using more more detailed, advanced graphics beyond looking nice, for example, but I'm humoring you), EVEN IF that were true, my point stands.

They would absolutely not, no way in hell, be using that sort of monochrome monitor with IT that could only manage very simple by 2020 standards line graphics to display things like navigation charts, IT that relies on a text based UI when even very cheap, low end IT in 2020 gives you more options for things like input. Even on the 2120 version of an old tugboat where they didn't care about looks, they would be using lower end, no frills IT for the time the Nostromo was built, not IT that looks retro in 2020. But you're wrong anyway. More colors, more detail = easier to read and to display information, for example.

Fuck. Anyway, I give up. Believe what you like. I'm punching out and putting you on ignore, so I'm not tempted to continue. I have a bad habit of getting into long arguments like this with silly people.Waste of time.

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FWIW, you stayed in it longer than I would have ;)

Simple answer: If they built the Nostromo *today*, would the computer systems look like they do in Alien?

So: if what we're building Today is light-years beyond/different from what's shown in the movie, it should be clear to any reasonable person that Alien got it wrong.

Fin.

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That's a good point.

However, I do like the room with what looks like an old PET Computer screen sitting in the center of the room, surrounded by 1,000 white Xmas lights, LOL.

Lights, buttons and switches...(multi-colored and/or blinking) double for technology....if you're making a movie in the 70's and trying to forecast what future technology will look like. Ha ha

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old PET Computer screen sitting in the center of the room, surrounded by 1,000 white Xmas lights,

Please, submit your production design storyboard as to how YOU would have designed the room. Clearly your artistic vision is so much superior to everyone who worked on the film, and you're totally not just being a nit-picky pedant about details that don't conform to your narrowminded cinematic world view.
Lights, buttons and switches...(multi-colored and/or blinking) double for technology.

Amazing. So evidently in this strange little world where you live, computer server rooms don't have any switches or blinking, flashing lights whatsoever? Let me see the server you've constructed?
trying to forecast what future technology will look like

What makes you think Alien is trying to "forecast" anything? Do you even understand the universe or viewpoint of the film? Didn't think so.
Ha ha

Are you laughing at yourself at this point, or just shit-posting for fun?

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I believe the poster said he actually liked the tech being displayed. No artist is clearvoyant and can predict what technology would look like in the next 40 years let alone 100 years. Besides I was under the impression the technology was supposed to look old and clunky because the nastromo was a big rig in space. Sure the movie took it to an extreme but I'm fairly certain that was the point being made. IE they were still using low bandwidth analog video transmissions during the derelict exposition. I even remember seeing a black and white video being displayed on the bridge some where in movie as if they were still using that for work.

I actually liked that the video game Alien Isolation still used old computer tech in the video game. I liked the delayed suspense as the little pet computers dialed into the network.

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FWIW, you stayed in it longer than I would have ;)

Probably because, like your buddy up there, you have no clue what you're talking about and don't have any case to support your weak argument.
If they built the Nostromo *today*, would the computer systems look like they do in Alien?

Er... yes, it would. See the above pictures I posted as an example. The cockpit of the Nostromo looks pretty much exactly like the control room or cockpit of any large commercial or military vehicle like a place or submarine.
if what we're building Today is light-years beyond/different from what's shown in the movie

Except it's not "light years" beyond/different. Stop hyperboling.
it should be clear to any reasonable person that Alien got it wrong.

And please, enlighten us with your genius intellect as to where or even how Alien "got it wrong"?

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LMAO. . .you're a special kind of stupid, huh?

I'm not gonna waste time on you like others have. My point stands, whether you can grasp it or not: Spacecraft/computers TODAY don't look like the Nostromo. For obvious reasons. Clearly they won't in the future, either.

It's that simple.

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certainly outdated in the year this movie takes place in

I'm not sure you understand what the term "outdated" means. Certainly not in the context that you're arguing.
There's a reason you don't see computers today, in 2020, using text based UIs

Oh really? Is that why I literally use the same text based UIs whenever I do any serious work? Ever heard of Python or cmd.exe? You have no clue what you're talking about.
Putting that kind of IT on a ship built around 2100 would absolutely be reverting to old technology.

And again I have to explain, nothing was "reverted." In the universe of the movie the technology is current. Stop being purposefully obtuse.
Not on a sub built in 2010 (another point you're refusing to accept),

What point is that? All you've done is dodge the original point, which is that the pictures you showed of a modern submarine control room look pretty much exactly the same as the Nostromo's. Does your back hurt from moving those goal posts?
A more modern UI isn't just prettier, it's easier to use

Subjective. I work with an outdated UI at my current job and I found it easy to use once I was trained on it. The Nostromo, likewise, doesn't need fancy bells and whistles to do their very menial job.
They would absolutely not, no way in hell, be using that sort of monochrome monitor with IT that could only manage very simple by 2020 standards line graphics to display things like navigation charts, IT that relies on a text based UI when even very cheap, low end IT in 2020 gives you more options for things like input.

Wrong, because by the logic of the film, they very well are using that "outdated" monochrome monitor and "standard line" graphics. Again, you're nitpicking, and you don't even know what your point is. Please explain exactly how having "fancier graphics" would have affected their mission or their ability to navigate? They seemed to accomplish everything just fine. No where did the ship's technology fail them.

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low end IT in 2020 gives you more options for things like input

I didn't see the characters having any problems with lack of "options for things like input." You're trying to manufacture a problem where there isn't one. Thank God you weren't on the production design team.
More colors, more detail = easier to read and to display information, for example.

Again, that's subjective. The Nostromo are not suburbanites who need fancy displays or UIs. They're miners. They can accomplish their objectives of running the ship perfectly well with the software they have. So far you have failed to articulate a single objective, plausible advantage this would have had for the characters in the film.
I'm punching out and putting you on ignore, so I'm not tempted to continue. I have a bad habit of getting into long arguments like this with silly people.Waste of time.

As I suspected, you have no point to stand on so have given up after throwing a hissy fit. I never asked for you to reply to me either. All I know is your argument was bogus.

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Loads on computers use text based UI, what are you talking about?

Stick to your baby, hand holding iPhone kid.

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I don't know about the average moron being able to comment on movies. Are there really people who take it personally if you say anything other than complete worship of their favorite movie? This perception about the ancient technology used in 300 years on space ship seems perfectly obvious and reasonable, and yet there are people who are as mechanical as robots ( who knows maybe they are robots ) that swoop in and start a fight - not even a reasoned discussion about anything. I think the Internet is trying to train people's reflexed to automatically go into angry violent mode so they can implement totalitarianism easier and automatically.

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I have no problem with people criticizing a film when it makes sense. Attacking a film because it doesn't "look pretty enough," however, is just a stupid, lazy, contrived point that is utterly worthless to anyone serious about film criticism. It's clear the guy just brought it up because he loves the sound of his own voice, and otherwise has nothing of value to add to the discussion (as evidenced by his rage quitting the debate).

This perception about the ancient technology used in 300 years on space ship seems perfectly obvious and reasonable

Alien does not take place 300 years in the future. If you're going to assess a film, at least get the facts right.

and yet there are people who are as mechanical as robots ( who knows maybe they are robots ) that swoop in and start a fight

Exactly. He swooped in and started a fight with me, insulting me because I didn't kowtow to his ridiculous claims. The problem is that people feel the need to act like mini-Roger Eberts and pretend they are some masters of critiquing art when they're anything but.

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> at least get the facts right.

Good one, very funny.

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>> Why exactly would a floating mining rig need virtual reality or holograms?

It's not about needing it, it's about the cheapest technology and what is around. Notice how flat, touch screens are all over the place now. You don't see any CRTs anymore. Also ... keyboards are going away, except for touchpads, and even they are becoming 2-D cheap bubble buttons. For weight and cost it is easier to virtualize all controls to a computer API and have it as an app that comes up on a touch screen. The cheap stuff crowds out the old stuff.

You have to admit it was funny when they supervisor or captain would go into the "Mother" room with all the blinking lights and be typing on a keyboard.

And what was with all the steam in the belowdeck area where Brett and Parker would hang?

Also funny was the plumes of fog that would emit from the tops of their helmets as they hiked to the alien ship. That could be realistic if it was like oxygen re-breathers or something.

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Notice how flat, touch screens are all over the place now. You don't see any CRTs anymore.

I don't use touch screens at my job. They're certainly not "all over the place." Maybe in a corporate job it makes sense to have them. Not on a floating mining rig.
Also ... keyboards are going away, except for touchpads, and even they are becoming 2-D cheap bubble buttons

The keyboard was invented in 1868. It's 2020, and we're still using them. It's certainly not impossible to believe that we would still be using them a few decades into the future as well. At least when performing a dangerous task like piloting a spaceship, you wouldn't want any finicky or gimmicky controls that rely on touch technology. Buttons have much more utility and are safer.

As for the complaints about the MUTHUR control room and the steam venting in the ship and their compression suits, I didn't find any of it to be distracting. Even today, people are going to be using keyboards to access a supercomputer. Nothing out of the ordinary.

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Thanks for sharing loon

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You mad bro?

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You just do not get it, and you are the kind that the more you don't get it the harder you push that you know better. What can I do?

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I find it ironic that someone is criticising the use of present day at time of filming 1978 technology in a movie and instead make the exact same mistake by suggesting present day 2020 technology (touch screens and GUI) instead.

Like as if that's going to be close to what we have in 100 years either...

Massive LOL.

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There's a book about the making of Alien and the set design concepts are discussed in detail answering your every criticism.

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They did a good job with certain displays, like the flying boxes they went through on the monitor as they were heading to the planet. And, MU-TH-UR's display with the green letters was very cool. Just those touches elevated the technology aspect of the film, and made it more believable.

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OK, please go back to 1978 and design a spaceship for 2122 and let us know how it's REALLY going to look.

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I think it would look AT LEAST as technologically advanced as any ship in 2021. That’s kinda the point: It’s always interesting to see how filmmakers back in the 70’s forecasted how technology would look and function in the future—when creating a film that takes place in the future. It’s not a criticism (relax). It’s more an observation.

Sometimes they get some things pretty close (Star Trek was right about flip phones, mobile computers, big screen TV’s, even face time. Heck, the teleportation concept is something we haven’t even caught up to yet).

And other things they forecasted about how the future will look and function look rather silly now...like how Rollerball envisioned shag carpeting, Lego-looking choppers, and doors that slide open top-meeting-bottom rather than left to right.

I think in general, they always defaulted to using rows and rows of colorful lights and switches (if you look closely, none of them are even labeled) to fill space and depict technology inside a spaceship.

Looks cool to a kid who is watching....but for adults, can look kinda silly.

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rows and rows of colorful lights and switches are still the default on most aeroplanes and cars.

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https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2016/01/31/crew-logs-ron-cobb

“I wanted the ship to look like a gothic castle,” Cobb explained, “but resisted that approach—it might have been a bit too much … I grew up with a deep fascination for astronomy, astrophysics, and most of all, aerospace flight. My design approach has always been that of a frustrated engineer (as well as a frustrated writer when it came to cinema design). I tend to subscribe to the idea that form follows function.”

Cobb, who was later quoted in the Book of Alien explaining that he preferred to “design a spaceship as though it was absolutely real, right down to the fuel tolerances, the centers of gravity, the way the engines function, radiation shielding, whatever,”

Can you think of any designer in sci fi movies who works this way today? The world building in most sci fi today is **** despite the money and graphics put into movies.

Also CRTs would be more advanced than panels today if companies were still developing it. They stopped because flat screens are cheaper, which is more profit. Why would the Nostromo use CRT? Perhaps if CRT tech was pursued it would be cheaper at that point.

I like to believe the tech and monitors in Alien are built for function and durability, not to look nice. Although I think they look nice. They work perfectly with the mood and atmosphere of the movie. The same with Star Wars tech and old Star Trek. None of these movies would be the same with flat screens and colorful glowing holograms. Which are unfortunately used in modern sci fi not because they give the appearance of function and realism, rather because they look shiny.

Which is what makes Alien more realistic looking today. It was designed by people who took the world building seriously.

I find that more appealing than mere modern graphics. I would say the same about any year of movies. Some 50s sci fi looks better than modern sci fi because of the care and seriousness put into them. So many things in movies today are taken for granted and obvious after thoughts by the production teams.

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Plus analogue tech is more reliable. On the space station now they would have shit that looks outdated on land. Analogue is easier to fix on the fly, more utilitarian.

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Digital transmissions have better error correction to help recover a damaged signal but unless your using lossey compression Digital is two much of a bandwidth hog. No one wants lossey compressed images of space images for scientific analysis so clean analog is the way to go.

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The quoted description in your first paragraph reminded me of a spacecraft in an episode of the sci-fi t.v. show Space 1999. The episode was “Mission of the Darians” from 1975 and the spacecraft was the size of a city but resembles the Nostromo. You can find pics online.

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I think Alien invented the movie cliche of the space ship self-destruct sequence.

When Ripley starts the self-destruct sequence things get "Holy sh!t!" chaotic. Suddenly, there are klaxons, sirens screaming AY-YOU-GAH and rotating amber lights everywhere.

And steam! So much steam hissing and filling up the corridors. What the hell is that about?

In the background is the implacable female voice calmly counting down the time to total self-destruction.

How would the crew be able to find their way to escape pods or verbally co-ordinate over all that noise and reduced visibility?

Cameron repeated it in Aliens. It's now become a common trope in any sci-fi that features exploding vessls of some sort.

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LOL, so true.

Especially the female nonchalant voice counting down. And yes, the unnecessary steam!

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When you need to make a spaceship look like a spaceship, just fill every open space with blinking buttons and switches that light up.

No computers or Virtual Reality……just lots of unlabeled buttons of various colors, and unlabeled switches. LOL.

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The original Star Trek series had a destruct sequence for the Enterprise with a female computer voice doing a nonchalant countdown. The episode was “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield “. There was no venting of steam or klaxons, though.

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