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Please show me why this isn't a despicable film


First I ask simply, what is the purpose of making this film? What is the lesson? Do characters grow from their experiences? Is there a moral message behind the film? These are not rhetorical questions - I would like to know your opinion.

In the Lincoln Lawyer, for example, we are shown a defense attorney who comes to the realization that his client is a murderer of willful intent. He is given ample reason to want to make the right decision, including the threats made by his client, and the apparent murder of his colleague. He is given a chance to make things right, both with his past client (who was wrongly-accused) and by putting his current client in prison for murder. And he takes that chance through a series of clever actions.

In Anatomy of a Murder, the defense attorney knows immediately that the defendant is guilty of murder with willful intent. Knowing fully that the defendant is guilty, and *before* even accepting the defendant as his client, the defense attorney gives the defendant a variety of resources and defenses to win his case. Why? And when told that he might not even get paid for his work, he still decides to take on the case. In his own words, "I think I'll just stay with you, to make damned sure you get off." Why? What is in it for him?

People often make the argument that, "he is just doing his job", but it was not his job to take on the case, or to help the defendant *before* accepting him as a client, or to do the job even on risk of not being paid, just to "make damned sure" the murderer is set free.

Why was Jimmy Stewart chosen for this film? He is shown acting deplorably, with no recognition whatsoever that his choices are wrong. What was the purpose of using his loveable character? To persuade through emotional appeal that his actions are good? To show the audience how easily they can be won over by emotion alone?

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* No chance for him to vindicate his past actions is provided by the plot. The conflict between his character and his actions is never resolved, and appears to have been purposely left unresolved, or even unacknowledged, as if to assume that there are no negative emotional consequences to bad actions - i.e., asserting a mind-body dichotomy.

* No examination is given of why he went from being a prosecutor to defense attorney, and how that has impacted him. Any such examination would have presented a contradiction between the loveable character and his choices - a conflict which would have demanded resolution through character development or final vindication.

* We are never clear on why exactly he proceeded with the case. He accepts the case just to "make damned sure" the murderer was set free, and he makes occasional reference to the legal fees, as if he is only in it for the money. Is this a demonstration that lawyers are greedy or selfish? If so, then why is it in his self-interest to set loose an extremely jealous, violent murderer, whose wife has made multiple passes at him. At the end of the film he is shown happily choosing to meet up with the murderer and his wife, knowing that the husband had witnessed his wife make passes at him. How is that a wise choice, if he is just being greedy and selfish?

* At the end, the lawyer is presented with clear evidence that the murderer never believed he was acting based on "irresistible impulse", by using the term jokingly. How does the lawyer react? By laughing it off.

* Even the title makes no sense, as nobody in the film is interested in examining the murder itself. Nobody is interested in the truth. What actually happened doesn't matter to them - all that matters is that people believe what they claim happened.

I'll ask my original questions again: what is the purpose of making this film? What is the lesson? Do characters grow from their experiences? Is there a moral message behind the film?

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Turning to Wikipedia for possible answers, I see only praise for the film's representation of trial law. Now, if the film had only depicted a trial (a la 12 Angry Men), maybe I could agree. But we are given a preface and afterward, and my analysis has focused primarily on those, as they are the only means of judging the lawyer's decisions during the trial.

As I said, before even accepting to represent Manion, Biegler gave him vital legal advice and coaching, while knowing and explicitly stating that Manion was a deliberate murderer and there was no justification for his action. And after the trial is over, Biegler made clear his disinterest in the consequences of his actions, laughing at the bogus insanity plea.

Any law professor, judge, or lawyer who praises this film must necessarily damn himself.

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It shows what the legal profession is like AND it WAS based on a REAL case that occurred, which brought about the book that the movie was adapted from.

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That doesn't really address anything in my post. I already covered your sort of response in my reply. See above.

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What is the purpose of making this movie? To tell a story, like why most movies from that era were made. Movies don't all come with lessons, it's like life that way.

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Preminger was not interested in convention, thankfully. And I thoroughly enjoyed Jimmy Stewart's performance as a morally ambiguous attorney. Doesn't fit your personal moral code? Too bad.

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Perfectly summed up by tad58.

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I think you are missing the point.

The moral message behind the film is that law is not the same thing as justice, it is not all lightness and good, it is a very human thing and a guy like Biegler can come along and manipulate it to no end. This is all laid out from the very beginning.

Of course he's not "just doing his job." He's getting revenge on the prosecutor for taking his office. That's why he takes the case. He's down and out and wants the sheer joy of running circles around the guy who replaced him, for personal ego. For fun. The judge has no idea what's going on, because he is from out of town. It makes perfect sense that he's a prosecutor because that's what he's doing in this case -- he's prosecuting the dead man Quill for rape. Only a former prosecutor would think to use offense as the best defense. In today's world we call it "blaming the victim," but it still happens.

Yeah, Jimmy Stewart's character is likable. If he weren't likable the plot would never have worked, because to do the kind of thing Biegler did, you have to be likable. You have to be charismatic, funny, outspoken, and outrageous. You have to get a judge and jury on your side when the facts are open and shut for the other side.

Where the judge made his mistake is where Biegler said, "I beg you, I beg you, to let me cut into the apple." The judge hesitates, opens and closes his watch, and then agrees with Biegler. In doing so he legitimates the jury to allow Manion to use the fact that his wife was raped as an 'excuse' for the murder he committed. But he did so because Biegler was so emotional, so eloquent, so persuasive, while the prosecutor guy was so unimaginative, wooden, and incompetent.

This was a far better movie than Lincoln Lawyer. Explicitly moralistic lawyer movies like the Lincoln Lawyer (or just about any Grisham novel for that matter) are a dime a dozen. In the end, the bad guy gets justice some way, some how, and the innocent victim gets justice. If all you did was watch movies like that you'd think the US is a country where the courts always deliver happy endings.

In the real world, that's not how it works. This movie shows that without comment, without preaching, how this guy made a mockery of the court and made you laugh along the way. It's a clever, entertaining and honest look into the judicial system.

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So well stated - your post was a joy to read.

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Great post! Interesting point about the judge being from out of town. Boy, did I love that judge though; fascinating that he was played by the real life "have you no decency, Senator McCarthy" lawyer.

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Well said, beet juice. Beigler says it himself to Mary Pilant - "In practicing the law, I've come to learn that people aren't all good or bad. They're many things."




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The trouble is, in reality, America is far from the only country in the world where courts mostly rarely if ever "deliver happy endings", it is a human problem, and I sometimes question even the necessity, need and functions of law itself since, even though it is created by our humans, it doesn't always deliver justice that people deserve or crave for in the events of violent crime, even if vigilante justice may not necessarily be the right solution either.

In other words, it is a HUMAN GLOBAL PROBLEM, not "just" an American one.

And I bet the so-called "more civilized European countries" face it constantly as well, the third world ones - comments unnecessary.

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OK, and this means...?

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Life also isn't generally a fairy tale or an action movie where good guys defeat evil bad guys and everyone lives happily ever after - Fact of Life 101.

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"Yeah, Jimmy Stewart's character is likable. If he weren't likable the plot would never have worked, because to do the kind of thing Biegler did, you have to be likable. You have to be charismatic, funny, outspoken, and outrageous. You have to get a judge and jury on your side when the facts are open and shut for the other side."

Actually, he was NOT likeable. He behaved like a total jerk in court and the defendant was also a major asshole who was clearly guilty. Even when manipulatively portraying the prosecution as incompetent fools (or maybe especially), it's too much to ask the audience to sympathize with Biegler and the Manions. The dog was cute, though

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I thought that he took the job because it would give excellent career benefits for him in the near future. I also thought he took it because he saw some potential good in Manion and decided to help him out because he sincerely thought that he didn't do it.

I may be wrong though.

But that isn't the point of the movie. You are given ambiguous information and events. The genius of the film is left up to your interpretation. You see, Preminger intended for the viewer to feel like they were sitting on the jury seats. You, the viewer, are part of the jury deciding whether Manion is guilty or not. While the film's outcome is something that you may not agree with, watch it over again.

Everything is left ambiguous. It is for you to decide. The ending left things wide open, and with Stewart laughing it off, is what makes the ambiguity even better. Was Manion guilty or not, given the evidence? Ask yourself. If he is guilty, why? Is there enough reasonable doubt left to announce him not guilty? Why?

My suggestion would be to watch it again.

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Oh, he's dead guilty, all right. But this is something known as juror nullifaction. Even though he did it, even though the legal excuse doesn't cut the mustard, the jury goes ahead and finds him not guilty anyway. They did this with John DeLorean; they did it with Marion Barry. Even though the evidence was overwhelming and staring them right in the face.

They do it because of sympathy. The jurors think it's acceptable - somehow - to kill the man that just raped your wife.




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Jury nullification needn’t be the result of a juror’s sympathy for the defendant, the facts of the case and the law be damned. It can also be a consequence of a juror believing that the law itself is unjust or that, say, evidence excluded by the judge was relevant. It’s basically a juror deciding for himself what is the just outcome based in their own interpretation of the facts and belief system.

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You THINK too much, pal. "Anatomy of a Murder" is one of MY favorite movies because it has an All-Star cast (Jimmy Stewart at his BEST!), and a literate script. Great direction by a Master Director (Otto Preminger). I could watch this movie until the cow's came home, and never get bored.

"You can't HANDLE the truth!" Jack Nicholson, "A Few Good Men."

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Totally agree - it is the experience of watching this film that is the payoff. Such as joy !!!

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Turner Classic Movies just aired the movie, as part of their "31 Days to Oscar." Yes, I enjoyed it, again!

NOTICE TO MITT ROMNEY: A BAD DAY FREELOADING, IS BETTER THAN A GOOD DAY AT WORK.

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Because movies that address unpleasant facts of life aren't necessarily despicable.

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Because movies that address unpleasant facts of life aren't necessarily despicable.


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Your response is perfection.

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Well said !!!

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Not all films are intended to teach us a lesson. Entertainment is reason enough for a movie's existence. However, "Anatomy of a Murder" seems to examine the ambiguous dark side of a trial, wherein we are manipulated to root for the defense team even though they, in turn, are manipulating the defendant, judge, and jury in order to win when it's not at all certain that their client is not guilty.

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I just watched this great film for the 3rd time in last month on TCM. I saw it in the movies in 1959, as a teenager, and read the book. As to the film itself, it certainly was a break through for that era. The author, John Voelker aka Robert Traver was a trial judge and well-known lawyer.

As I recall, it was well-received best seller that every one was reading. With regards to the cast, I believe that Jimmy Stewart did a remarkable job, and as any one with a wit of intelligence knows, most lawyers rarely question whether their clients are innocent or guilty. In fact, my long-time tennis partner, is one of the top defense lawyers in NYC and was a well-respected ADA in NYC. He said to me once, and I concur, that all clients (defendants) lie and they always claim they are innocent. Their role is not to be the prosecutor.

Under our system, every one deserves a defense, and the circumstances revolving around this case, reflected both motive and state of mind. The Biegler-Stewart character attacked the victim and the jury agreed with him. They bought into the psychological defense, which had legal precedent.

As to the Biegler/Stewart reasons for taking the case, he was hired, he was a newly minted defense lawyer, and he needed both the action and the money. Many lawyers take so-called "lost" cause cases. I was very close to the lawyer, who took on the defense in the famous murder case in Scarsdale, NY, regarding the shooting of the well-known, diet Doctor Herman Tarnower by Jean Harris. She obviously shot him and everyone knew it. Why did she plead innocent? Well she was the beneficiary in his will and in the State of NY, if you plead guilty, as a matter of justifiable homicide, and you are released with a slap on the wrist, you cannot inherit the victim's estate. She wanted the estate, pled innocent and lost. She went to jail and served at least 12 years.

He told me personally that with Tarnower's personal record of infidelity and abuse (his words) that if Jean Harris had pled guilty she would have been received a light sentence as an abused and scorned woman, but she would have her rights in the will voided.

As to the movie, I thought it was great, believable, interesting and I have no complaints with any of the acting. Joseph Welsh was wonderful, folksy and any criticism about his acting is nitpicking and silly.

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Good post, but it occurs to me that one other motivation he might have here is to beat the guy who apparently beat him in the election for county prosecutor.

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Yes, exactly. He doesn't like that guy much, and this was his first chance at really rubbing it in his face and beating him - on a high profile rape/murder case. The entire Upper Peninsula was talking about it and represented in that courtroom. He wanted this case for revenge.

That ALONE is more than reason enough to take the case. But, like Mannion, he too was flat broke, as he couldn't even afford to pay his secretary. He needed the money badly - even just the $150 out of Mannion's pay.

And don't cry too much over the "loss" of the other $2850 (the total of $3000 would be something like $30,000 today). It would be exceedingly easy for him to track Mannion down in the Army and get his wages through them. Except for the fact that he didn't have a promissory note. That was beyond stupid - no attorney would act that way. He'd get that promissory note signed first thing, not after the case. That's just plain dumb, and far too dumb for Beigler, country lawyer or no.

Additionally, he could elect to take the estate case on the basis of a percentage value of the estate. It seems old Barney had quite a lot to administer - that entire bar, hotel, and other niceties of the resort. That would be worth a nice penny as well.




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