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Please show me why this isn't a despicable film


First I ask simply, what is the purpose of making this film? What is the lesson? Do characters grow from their experiences? Is there a moral message behind the film? These are not rhetorical questions - I would like to know your opinion.

In the Lincoln Lawyer, for example, we are shown a defense attorney who comes to the realization that his client is a murderer of willful intent. He is given ample reason to want to make the right decision, including the threats made by his client, and the apparent murder of his colleague. He is given a chance to make things right, both with his past client (who was wrongly-accused) and by putting his current client in prison for murder. And he takes that chance through a series of clever actions.

In Anatomy of a Murder, the defense attorney knows immediately that the defendant is guilty of murder with willful intent. Knowing fully that the defendant is guilty, and *before* even accepting the defendant as his client, the defense attorney gives the defendant a variety of resources and defenses to win his case. Why? And when told that he might not even get paid for his work, he still decides to take on the case. In his own words, "I think I'll just stay with you, to make damned sure you get off." Why? What is in it for him?

People often make the argument that, "he is just doing his job", but it was not his job to take on the case, or to help the defendant *before* accepting him as a client, or to do the job even on risk of not being paid, just to "make damned sure" the murderer is set free.

Why was Jimmy Stewart chosen for this film? He is shown acting deplorably, with no recognition whatsoever that his choices are wrong. What was the purpose of using his loveable character? To persuade through emotional appeal that his actions are good? To show the audience how easily they can be won over by emotion alone?

Some additional points:

* No chance for him to vindicate his past actions is provided by the plot. The conflict between his character and his actions is never resolved, and appears to have been purposely left unresolved, or even unacknowledged, as if to assume that there are no negative emotional consequences to bad actions - i.e., asserting a mind-body dichotomy.

* No examination is given of why he went from being a prosecutor to defense attorney, and how that has impacted him. Any such examination would have presented a contradiction between the loveable character and his choices - a conflict which would have demanded resolution through character development or final vindication.

* We are never clear on why exactly he proceeded with the case. He accepts the case just to "make damned sure" the murderer was set free, and he makes occasional reference to the legal fees, as if he is only in it for the money. Is this a demonstration that lawyers are greedy or selfish? If so, then why is it in his self-interest to set loose an extremely jealous, violent murderer, whose wife has made multiple passes at him. At the end of the film he is shown happily choosing to meet up with the murderer and his wife, knowing that the husband had witnessed his wife make passes at him. How is that a wise choice, if he is just being greedy and selfish?

* At the end, the lawyer is presented with clear evidence that the murderer never believed he was acting based on "irresistible impulse", by using the term jokingly. How does the lawyer react? By laughing it off.

* Even the title makes no sense, as nobody in the film is interested in examining the murder itself. Nobody is interested in the truth. What actually happened doesn't matter to them - all that matters is that people believe what they claim happened.

I'll ask my original questions again: what is the purpose of making this film? What is the lesson? Do characters grow from their experiences? Is there a moral message behind the film?

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The purpose of a film is to entertain. The purpose of a trial is a legal finding of guilty or not-guilty. Morality doesn't have to be a part of either one. Especially since this movie is steeped in noir, though set in a bleak courtroom rather than the usual bleak city canyons. In noir stories issues are almost always morally ambiguous and done in mostly darker shades of gray. In the legal arena morality is discounted as the attorney for the defense is charged to give the best one possible. In one class I've attended the instructor urged future attorneys to not even inquire of their client's their actual guilt or innocence, it will only get in the way of their presentation of the best possible defense. The filmmakers in this one display all of the ambiguities of the characters and the system.

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I don't think there is a moral message behind the film, but this is one of the things I admire about it. It commits to very seriously and thoroughly showing trial tactics (including stuff like buttering up the judge with the gift of a fishing lure), and doesn't "Hollywood" things by losing its nerve and forcing in some saccharine ending.

This is also something I enjoy about the TV show The Good Wife. I like seeing lawyers use devious tactics and pushing the boundaries of ethics to do what it takes to win their duels in court. Maybe that says something about my own morals! LOL

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The purposes of this movie is to entertain, which it did. Why do people think movies have to have a lesson or moral message?

I much prefer a movie like this which just shows what the real world is like, rather than some silly unrealistic movie that tries to teach us a lesson.

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Yes, the chief reason a mainstream movie is made is to entertain, as has been stated many times already. Making a moral point would be a secondary consideration.

Contrary to what many posters have said, it is my opinion that the ending is not ambiguous at all. And this is where I believe the film fails.

Most movie goers want/need/desire a satisfactory resolution when it appears abundantly clear from the way the film was scripted that Manion and his wife lied through their teeth to get him off.

Beigler knows the only possible way to get him off, through the channel of the "temporary insanity" tact, is to try the victim (Quill)instead and turn him into the vicious monster that thoroughly deserved to be dispensed with - not through the process of the law because that would convict Manion - but through morally justifiable vigilante justice for the crime of rape.

Here's where it totally falls apart. There is no conclusive evidence that she was ever raped and plenty of circumstantial evidence that she pursued a sexual liaison with Quill.

Dancer is blindsided by the revelation that Quill was the father and not the lover of Pilant when he pursues a reckless line of questioning based on a false premise: Pilant was motivated to come forth with the panties because she was hurt by pride or jealousy as the jilted lover. This supposedly sinks his case.

But why should it? Wouldn't a smart, quick thinking attorney like Dancer act as though this revelation is immaterial to the point at hand, which is, if Quill really raped Manion's wife, why in the world would he plant a chief piece of evidence in his own establishment? What? He forgot he was carrying her panties in his hand all the way back to the inn, walks in the door and then, oops better get rid of this and drops into his own laundry chute? It is far more credible to believe Quill was set up with this questionably material bit of evidence by having someone plant it there.

It just seem incredible to me that a quasi-intelligent jury would buy the whole flimsy line of defense with everything pointing to the type of characters Manion and his wife are, and come up with a not guilty verdict.

Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H.L. Mencken

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Your set of questions made me very uneasy.

The conviction that a film is "despicable" if

- it lacks a moral message, or

- characters don't show positive growth;

.. and that

- greedy or selfish characters inherently subtract from the value of the movie;

- casting a likable man doing unlikable things is somehow shameless or reproachable

... is consistent with the mentality that gave America the Hays Code, and detracted from the development and art of film-making for the next half-decade.

A film that has those characteristics may be a film that you don't like, but that doesn't mean it needs to be defended against charges of being "despicable".

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I am not saying that this is the best courtroom drama of all time, or even a great movie, but I think your criticism of the movie is absolutely missing the point. Otto Preminger is making a very specific commentary about what really motivates men and Paul Biegler is not just competing with his rival. Consider details of this film and know that none of these things were arbitrary, right? Preminger has put them there with purpose - Biegler plays jazz, McCarthy is a drunk, the secretary is ignored by her boss but is not unattractive, the NY lawyer was named Dancer, Biegler talks about Quill as a "wolf", the little dog carries a flashlight, the little dog loves Biegeler but really fancies Dancer, Manion and Biegler have odd smoking habits, Biegler likes to fish but his fridge is packed, he makes a lure for the judge, etc. Many people mistake this for a Hitchcock film. Of course it's not. If you don't like that kind of psychological filmmaking then this isn't your kind of movie. If you like to put together puzzles, then you've got a dandy.

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Are you so divorced from reality that you would make such a comment?


Lawyers serve their clients. PERIOD. A prosecutor's client is the state. It is not the role of the attorney to judge their clients- only to serve and represent them to the best of their ability.

ANY lawyer who fails to do so will be disbarred

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In life, stuff just happens. And not everybody wants to be preached to. So why does a movie have to have some "lesson" or "moral message" at all? Why do characters need to grow from their experiences?

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Do all films HAVE to have a moral lesson?

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Exactly.

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