I didn't think Trump had any chance to be reelected but I was wrong so I stand corrected. I also believe that the election was won by Trump fair and square. At least Trump will never be president again after his current time in office and I get to make fun of Trump for the next four years.
I knew he had a chance but I was still surprised by the way it did. Especially of the sweep he got of BOTH the south and upper mid-west. I wouldn't have been completely shocked if she had won all of the swing stakes instead of him.
I was very certain he'd win convincingly, as long as it was a fair election. I had every state that went red red on my predictive map, and everything blue that went blue except New Hampshire. I thought he was likely to flip that state as well. My final tally was 316-222. It looks like it's going to end up 312-226. However, I was definitely concerned that the Democrats would "discover" 15 million or so votes overnight, a la 2020.
I know many here disbelieve there was any fraud in 2020, but one wonders...
Obama got 65,915,795 votes in 2012
Clinton got 65,853,514 votes in 2016
Biden got 81,283,501 votes in 2020
Harris has 67,878,826 votes in 2024
Where did those 13 to 15 million votes come from in 2020? Why didn't those people vote in 2024? There were a record number of new voters registered leading up to this week's election, and there was record voter turnout, and yet...
Meanwhile, Trump had 72,560,841 votes this year, and 74,223,975 in 2020, so more or less the same, and 62,984,828 in 2016. Romney had 60,933,504 in 2012. All more or less consistent.
These are very interesting stats. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m an Occam’s razor person but I have to say that what you’ve laid out here is very suspicious.
Because those who voted for Biden didn’t necessarily want to vote for Harris or Hillary or Obama. They probably didn’t vote at all. We will never know what would have happened had Biden not been forced to drop out. 2020 had the largest turnout - with 168 million.
About 150M voted in 2024. 90M didn’t vote at all according to the US News & World Report. There’s nothing suspicious about any of these elections. They were all fair and square. The one that wasn’t was the debacle in 2000 with Gore and Bush.
Dream on. Full forensic audits have already been done upon Trump’s requests.
“Because the 2020 presidential election results in several states were quite close, stakeholders took advantage of various state laws and procedures to allege incorrect vote counts and request recounts…The Trump campaign challenged the vote counts in some states and sought recounts in others. Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania all faced lawsuits that alleged vote-count fraud and sought recounts…None of these lawsuits or contests succeeded, and none of the recounts or audits changed the results of the election.” (Stanford University MIT Election Data + Science Lab.)
Yeah that kind of dismissive gaslighting can only be effective when you also have the institutional power lol, the 2020 election will be thoroughly audited and everyone who committed election fraud will face justice. The J6th political prisoners will be freed. You literally can't do a single damn thing to stop it happening, just like you won't be able to stop the largest scale mass deportation of illegals ever seen. Deal with it.
Isn't that the one where all the bad kids become donkeys then get locked away on an island?
I prefer Dumbo, elephants on top, soaring victoriously through the skies.
Maybe you can send that law firm's number to the people who stole 2020? They'll need good representation in the near future.
It doesn't really add much weight to your opinions with you being so wrong though, so you "making fun" of Trump for 4 years is irrelevant and, let's be honest, utter coping lol, hope you're looking forward to the RFK/Vance/DeSantis/Gabbard/Ramaswamy tickets in 28, 32, 36 etc
It was an observation I have made. My view is hardly unique, nor am I the first one to make the comparison. Decades ago in my youth I have admired a few strippers, but I never labored under the delusion that any stripper liked me or that I was devoted to any politician to any significant degree.
I have appreciated the results of various politicians, Democrat and Republican. They were instrumental in the passage of gun bills that eased restrictions on our 2nd Amendment rights. They were also far better human beings than Trump.
No, I don't. Because Trump put everything on the line, including his own life when they were trying to put a bullet in his head. Comparing him to a stripper or to a random politician just defines your character or your poor knowledge of Trump..
This kind of knee jerk reaction to the Trump name is precisely what I described and is precisely what turned regular voters away from your side, it turns out adults remember what a nazi actually is.
Say hi to your therapist for me.
This kind of coping is the best kind, your account is mostly just you smearing Republicans and Trump and you expect me to believe you're a legal voting citizen who didn't vote against him lol.
It's time to stop the coping and enter reality now ok, otherwise the next 4 years are going to be very tough for you to deal with.
Your schtick was old in 2020 now it's ancient. It's a self report on your own intelligence that you think you fool a single person. Very sorry your rainbow NWO failed to establish lol
You're talking gibberish as usual. Your inane responses currently hold a weight of unearned smugness that you've previously been used to displaying while trolling MAGA when you thought you guys were in charge, but now MAGA have the mandate of the entire USA and free world, you're still acting smug but without any weight behind it whatsoever.
Let it sink in, you're still in a state of shock currently.
Your nonsense was so unnattractive to regular people it gave Republicans an utter clean sweep, 312 EC votes, +5million on popular vote, House, Senate, SCOTUS majority and potential strong MAGA tickets for the next 5 elections.
Day 1 Trump is striking down your gender woo laws and safeguarding women's sports. Entire departments of government will be dismantled and replaced with loyal patriots, EOs will be put into place to reverse the decay and rot that you guys have used to try and poison America. You failed. America will never be a communist state.
Soak it in. I hope acting as obnoxious as possible to people constantly was worth it because this is what you achieved with it lol
There's literally nothing you're able to do to stop Trump's second term now, which was the entire raison detre for accounts like your one. You failed, you can stop the lies now. If you were paid for them, you're not gonna be any more lol, and if you were doing it for free well then that's just really sad.
I'm not under any illusions that anyone can stop a 2nd Trump presidency. There is the slight possibility that Trump's flirtation with insurrection could be used in an attempt to disqualify him as president. But I think that will not actually happen and the electoral votes will be counted and certified by Harris with little or no debate.
Why are you imagining that I'm being paid to spread propaganda on this obscure little forum?
I consider bad mouthing politicians that I don't like to be an amusing little hobby. Your posts are not really much of a distraction. But you do add to the amuzement.
I knew he'd win but I didn't think he'd smash the blue wall to pieces. And yes, this is such a gift to comedians and the media, I don't know what they're complaining about.
You’re damn right he won fair and square. Kamala is a loser, you’re a loser, the Democrats are losers. Now it’s time to start prosecuting every single Democrat who tried to overthrow our democracy by using the criminal justice system against Donald Trump to keep him from running, inciting assassination attempts, etc.
The POTUS Election of President Joe Biden was a legitimate vote, and Donald Trump tried, unsuccessfully to steal the POTUS Election of Joe Biden Back in 2020, and created an Insurrection, in which people were killed and seriously injured.
I propose a ban on Leftists from Movie Chat. Maybe a put them in Movie Chat jail for a year, just so we can have some peace and quiet and talk about movies again. They ruin every single board on here.
I completely agree, and what’s really bothersome is they are a bunch of self absorbed narcissists who think that their point of view is the only one that matters. They don’t think they are responsible for displaying any level of civility or basic human decency.
What also needs to happen is President Trump needs to enact a program where the people who voted for Brandon and Kamala have to pay the people who voted for Trump in the 2020 election reparations. What I’ll accept is a 20% tax cut while the people who voted for Brandon and Kamala get a 20% tax hike. The left loves high taxes anyways so they shouldn’t have too much of a problem with it.
I completely agree, I’ve said for a long time that anyone who votes Democrat shouldn’t be allowed to take home more than $40,000 per year. They don’t need anything past $40,000.
The leftists are the grifters? Who is the one hawking Bibles, trading cards of his face, gold shoes, coins, watches, NFTs and a million other Chinese made products?
Does Trump pay his taxes or not? Your constituents are layabouts collecting freebies off the backs of hard working American citizens, and now you've earned an illegal aliens horde army of millions to add to that. Screw you man. We pay the taxes, we have a voice, we have the power now.
This is your kind's problem, you think a voluntary legal transaction is "grifting" and think illegal immigrants breaking into the country and getting housed at the involuntary expense of taxpayers are fine and dandy lol, just because your TV told you to hate Trump.
Absolutely not. I refuse to let MovieChat devolve into a shallow right-wing echo chamber — that would drain it of everything that makes it worth our time. I’ve been in left-wing echo chambers back when I was a Leftist, and they’re insufferable. The strength of this place is in the real clash of ideas — whether through cordial, rigorous, good-faith debates or unapologetic, no-holds-barred, politically incorrect virtual blood sport. We have an intense, diverse crowd here: communists, fascists, wokes, anti-wokes, anti-racists, white supremacists (like me), liberals, conservatives — the entire political spectrum. This diversity (the only kind of diversity I can support) fuels MovieChat, and that’s exactly how it should stay.
Nah, I have no common cause with these commies, and they can get a small taste of the censorship they've dished out to everyone who didn't bend the knee and agree with every single facet of their pathetic warped delusions.
Yes, I’ve come to see that multiracial and multicultural societies are inferior and lack the cohesion found in homogeneous ones. When these societies face stress — like during economic downturns — they start to fragment. Minority groups can harbor resentment toward the majority, and vice versa, creating tensions that only worsen under pressure.
People naturally seem to gravitate toward their own. Studies show that individuals tend to feel less happy in diverse settings and are less engaged in civic life. They’re often more self-conscious, constantly worried about accidentally offending or being misunderstood. I believe societies function best when they are culturally unified, where the government prioritizes a single ethnic group bound by shared history and heritage, working for the collective interest. In a homogeneous society, this alignment ensures that the government serves everyone.
That is precisely my position. I advocate for the repeal of the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964, and 1990, along with the Fair Housing Act of 1968. The latter, in particular, is critical because it prevents individuals from refusing to sell or rent property based on someone’s membership in a so called "protected class". However, I believe it is my fundamental right to choose where I live, particularly within a community that shares my culture and values.
For example, as someone who is Polish, I should have the right to reside in a Polish community where cultural cohesion is preserved. To facilitate this, I should be able to refuse to sell or rent to those outside my group, such as blacks, if I do not wish them to be part of my neighborhood. The Fair Housing Act prohibits this.
Thankfully when I was growing up, things worked like they should — Polish neighborhoods in Chicago were homogeneous, and property transactions were conducted in accordance with the cultural makeup of the area — no one would sell or rent to a black, even though this practice technically violated the law. In today's world though, with the pervasive influence of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, I imagine it's even harder to bypass these restrictions. This is why I believe the Fair Housing Act must be repealed.
That sounds pretty reasonable to me. However, I don't think that you're a white supremacist. White supremacist is a liberal term invented by Jewish media. You just want to live with your kind. You are not advocating for a supremacy of your race.
It’s complicated. Here on the Politics board, I often label myself as a 'White supremacist,' 'fascist,' or 'Nazi' as a tactic to disarm the Wokes. I hold a particular disdain for them, and one of their tactics is to brand anyone with views they dislike as a 'fascist,' 'Nazi,' 'racist,' or 'sexist,' putting people immediately on the defensive. White people, especially, are so afraid of these labels that they’ll bend over backward to prove their virtue. Wokes thrive on watching people grovel, apologize, and humiliate themselves publicly. To me, that’s not just manipulative — it’s repulsive. So, when I interact with them, I cut off their tactic from the start by claiming every label they might throw at me: Nazi, fascist, racist, homophobe, transphobe, sexist, ableist — you name it. I embrace them all. I go even further and say, yes, I see them as subhuman and will take away their civil rights if I could. This openly brutal approach instantly dismantles their usual guilt-tripping and intimidation tactics.
So, when I call myself a 'White supremacist,' I’m mostly being provocative and leaning into the label signaling to the Wokes that their game won’t work on me. I'm fine with being called a racist and Nazi, I wear the labels they toss around as badges of honor. As far as my actual views, at the heart of it, what I really mean by 'White supremacist' or 'White nationalist' is a love for my people and the right to associate with whomever I choose, as you put it: to live with my own kind. Having said that, yes, I do also believe that White people, as a race, have accomplished more than any other, creating the most advanced societies in history. Nearly everything in the modern world is thanks to White innovation — so, in that sense, I do think we’re superior. Some would say this does actually make me a White Supremacist, and if that's the case I'm fine with it. I'll happily wear the label.
Ok, I got your point, but maybe another tactic could be to dismantle these categories of the mind, which are not objective reality. Regarding the merits of the white race, well, it is simply too evident to be denied. History speaks for itself, and, yes, this could be another way to kill the woke labels. If whites achieved more than blacks in history, is history itself "racist"?
Nice strawman. Actually, I would just get a kick out of you bastards getting a taste of your own censorship medicine. I mean, your kind banned Trump from Twitter and erased his post history until Elon bought it. You people are pathetic weak turds.
My kind? I'm anti-Trump, so what? I'm pro-gun and anti-rape. Of course that is going to put me at odds with scum like Trump. Why do those traits attract you to him?
Ship them all to Portland. If they want their leftie nightmare to continue they are more than welcome. Leave the rest of the US to clean up the mess and prosper.
I assume Kamala will run again in four years, do you? I wonder what she'll do for four years though. What do you think? Thank you for posting here with honesty and pleasantry.
You really think the Democrats would nominate her? She got destroyed in the primaries of 2020 and she just ran one of the worst campaigns in the history of the United States. She’s a brainless bimbo, and a national embarrassment who got completely and totally destroyed.
They live in a complete bubble and honestly can't see how that cackling harpy is unlikable and not a viable candidate, they all seem to have been perfectly primed by the media machine over the last 4-8 years to just accept what the tv tells them and the tv has told them she would win. They're completely unserious people. These are the same type of people who petition for a season 2 of The Acolyte, utterly detached from reality.
I predict the party will discard her like a modern day Dukakis, not only because she lost but because of the sense of illegitimacy that attended her rise to presidential nominee.
Who knows what will happen in four years? I think Harris will run In 2028 as will others such as Gavin Newsom. I know MAGA hates Newsom but he is popular among Californias. Newsom was elected, then reelected and he survived a recall election. So there's that.
Newsom is not popular among all Californians. Five million here voted to recall him. Only the leftist useful idiots here love him (unfortunately, the majority in our state). If you want a Sanctuary Country, no border, bums crapping on your sidewalks, no prosecution for property and violent crime, and $5.00+ per gallon gasoline, be sure to vote Newsom in '28.
The black female thing didn't get her over the line this time. It seems unlikely this otherwise empty vessel (oh empty except for 'joy' - by which I mean that inane lunatic cackling) would stand a chance on a second try.
Not a chance. I made another post on MC about how she was the ideal candidate on paper, but the campaign exposed her flaws. Basically, she rose to power through the safety of the California leftist system, rather than through winning widespread appeal. When she campaigned, she had no real message to offer people. She either skipped interviews or gave answers in them that were a bit bewildering at times.
Democrats won't want a losing candidate like her in another election, so my guess is she fades away from politics altogether.
Same here. I've said on the record I thought he was unelectable after his loss in 2020.
But in my defense, it took a candidate so wholly unqualified and unlikeable like Heels Up Harris to be weak enough to lose to someone like Trump. I was planning to sit this election out (I don't like Trump's stance on Ukraine), but when I went to vote, I just went straight red right across the board starting from Trump.
The 2020 POTUS election was not rigged. Don't start your s**t, Melton. Biden won the 2020 POTUS election fairly, squarely, and legitimately. Donald Trump tried to steal the 2020 POTUS Election, and created the January 6th, 2021 Insurrection, in the hopes of terrorizing the members of Congress who were doing the signatures for Biden's POTUS 2020 Election. Fortunately, they did not succeed. To be truthful, Donald Trump is an overgrown combination of a spoiled brat and a schoolyard bully who'll do anything to get whatever he wants, and throws big temper tantrums when he doesn't. Donald Trump's attempt to overturn and steal the legitimately, fairly and squarely won 2020 POTUS Election of Joseph Biden, which, fortunately, wasn't successful, was a perfect example of his overgrown spoiled brat/schoolyard bully combo.
It was rigged and now that Donald is in power again all the democrats responsible of it will be punished and will go to prison, how does feel knowing it, loser?
I never claimed that Trump is a fascist dictator. Show me exactly where you claim that I said that. I'll wait. Oh... Your logic is just pure bullshit. Anyway, you claim that today Harris is a fascist but last week you claimed that she is a Marxist. Make up your mind, retard.
Do you think one little sissypants post of contrition makes up for 15,000 posts spewing vile vulgarity, lies, and hatred? It does not. You are a bad loser who is endeavoring to find forgiveness.
You are guilty of all offenses and accusations yet still name-calling.
Exactly , do not show these radical Kamala supporters any mercy because if the tables had been turned they would not show you any. Stand tall and hold them accountable for their actions and behavior.
This is rich.
Show me the quotes for everything they claim Trump said.
My favorites are all the claims of racism.
Trump condemned white supremacists and you and your ilk claim he supports them.
Trump calls MS13 gang members animals(because they are) and you claim he said all Mexicans are animals.
Trump desegregated Maralago so black people could join, yet your dumbshit party claims he hates black people.
Jan 6th he told people to be peaceful and lawful, then told them to all go home, but that was somehow inciting a riot and got him banned from twitter.
There are plenty of legit things Trump can and should be called out for, but you people are far too busy lying and accusing him of trumped up bullshit.
I hope you cry yourself to sleep every night on your cock shaped pillow for the next four years while you conceive your next bullshit accusations.