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i dn't care if he's turned his life around he should never get a chance to be a star in hollywood ever again


he's a horrible person. he made the most mean spirited, abusive, and hurtful comments to his ex girlfriend about 10 years ago that was recorded on a audio device.

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Statistically speaking....she would have more likely to have been raped by blacks (as opposed to whites) but I know 'fact's and 'reality' don't chide with your (obvious) craving for racial proportionality, does it?

it must be great to be you...you love everyone?

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Actually white males have the highest rates of sexual assault, child molestation and even serial murder than any other race, statistically speaking.

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Statisically speaking.....blacks (despite their actual minority) still rape and murder more in their 'chosen' country than whites

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Although nice of you bump up your findings with 'child molestation' (agenda, much?)

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I suggest you check the FBI data base instead of just making up numbers off the top of your head.
My only agenda is truth over racism.

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...the same statistic that will show you that 50% of all homicides are done by blacks while they only make up 13% of the population and considering that half of them are women, who rarely murder compared to men, and some % are also kids... that leaves what, 7%?

When 7% of the population is responsible for 50% of all homicides... we really need to focus on evil white men. ;D

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Gotta love the white supremacists always coming out of the woodwork with their ass pulled white supremacist statistics to justify their anti black racism & apparently domestic abuse.

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I was molested by a black guy when I was nine. F*** You.

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I got randomly attacked by a mentally retarded man, having an episode when I was seven & it would be innapropriate for me to take it out on you.

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Okay. I'm sorry about the outburst. I was attacked and beaten nearly everyday by my older brother when I was a kid but none of that scarred my as much as being tampered with only once. I take that stuff personally. I'm also getting pretty annoyed with the whole 'white supremacist' stuff. Ive known maybe two people in my entire life who've had an openly racist attitude. And even they would help a (fill in the race here_ _ _ ) person if they were in trouble. There are good people who talk out of their ass. And then there are genuinely rotten people as well on ALL sides, statistics be damned. Everyone has a soul and are capable of good and evil. It does no good to try to divide. That's about all I'm seeing nowadays.

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I don't want to get into comparing traumas here but being physically bullied by one's older brother is not the same a child being randomly beaten by a strange , full sized man while playing outside alone one day. I'm sorry for whatever childhood trauma you may have experienced but that still doesn't excuse being a racism/white supremacist apologist. Most white supremacists aren't open about but are still very much racist white supremacists
behind closed doors. So no it isn't people "complaining about racism" that's the problem. It's racists/racism and that's the problem.

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how are those stats anything but factual?
is the analysis of statistics what indicates they should be filed under "white supremacy?"

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Calling someone a "White supremacists" isn't an argument. He was correctly quoting crime statistics in response to an incorrect claim that Whites are responsible for most rapes. True White supremacists don't exist. No one wants to rule over Black people or other minorities. A so called "White supremacist" is a White guy who wants Whites to be treated fairly and gives valid arguments over legitimate racial grievances.

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Those statistics are not "ass pulled". They are real. Do some research.

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It's more like your "racism" toward whites in our day of glorifying and excusing blacks in epic proportions by giving them whatever they wish and demand because we have to pander

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My racism?
First off, white people are not oppressed.

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Neither are blacks, and if you are "oppressed" (other than the police-interactions that are so topical today--but not conclusive) , it's due to a case of personal dislike, the same as whites. Personal-dislike is not oppression.
And some whites are oppressed, but many blacks (not all) are so absorbed in themselves, they wouldn't take notice or be interested.

Blacks oppress whites every time you deliberately show your resentment and hate for whites at random, and yes, it happens.
But, nice gig you have riding on the oppression-coattails for eternity. That, itself, it why blacks may be disliked by both whites and blacks, which you also likely never gave thought to.

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Why would you assume I am black? Weird as my handle clearly says I am Italian. Just because I am aware of racism doesnt mean I am black. Which, ironically, says a lot to my points.

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Wait a minute, stating you're Italian, thus not black is kinda racist, don't you think? As far as I know, Italy has black people living there and I'm sure MANY who were born there thus, Italian.

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Saying what race I am is racist? Um, what?
There are Black people that live in Italia, yes, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are from African descent. After all, we are only a short boat ride to Africa 😉

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2018:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

When the race of the offender was known, 54.9 percent were Black or African American, 42.4 percent were White, and 2.7 percent were of other races.

2019:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

When the race of the offender was known, 55.9 percent were Black or African American, 41.1 percent were White, and 3.0 percent were of other races.


You mean this? Sure the overall of everything else (excluding homicide and robbery) done by whites is more due to the fact they're 50% of the population vs 18% hispanic vs 13% blacks vs 5% asian.

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In this chart, Hispanics are lumped together with Whites. If Hispanics were separate the disparity between Whites and Blacks would have been even greater. What's particularly interesting is that when counting VICTIMS of crime Hispanics ARE a separate category, but when counting PERPETRATORS of crime, they are counted as "Whites". It's almost if someone has an agenda to inflate White crime statistics.

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> (agenda, much?)

The fucking irony...

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Your entire existence here is agenda.

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Totally wrong. According to the FBI Blacks are WAAY more likely to rape than Whites. And child molestation is a staple of gay lifestyle (males).

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Jesus where do all these worms crawl out from?

Take it down a notch bozo.

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To have an inability to forgive.....now THAT is a horrible person.

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Amen

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Indulging in a bit of "blame the victim" sanctimony ? Some things are unforgivable and it is the perpetrators of those kind of acts that are horrible people. Not referring to Mel Gibson in particular it's just a general observation.


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lol, cancel culture.....social media mob.....at work again. lol.
The guy acts in films and directs films. If he does that well then he can and should work.

No one gives a rat's ass if you are "offended" by someone.
You aren't that special.

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This.

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Amen.

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Mel Gibson rocks!!

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This.

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No-one cares what you think apart from your fellow cancel culture snowflakes.

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I happily gave him another chance.


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no, there are some things that you can't come back form and if you listen to that audio recording of him saying the most disrespectful, and inhuman, and dehumanizing things to his ex gf then you would know that he doesn't deserve a second chance in hollywood. it doesn't matter what i think or say though bc hollywood isn't going to give him another chance to be a star. so in 10 years he will be in the same position he is in now, which is not being a star in hollywood anymore.

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So that was a message for that biatch.
It wasn't meant to be public.
Have you ever insulted somebody in your life? Is that a good reason to consider you a bad person?

I like Mel Gibson, but I would agree with you if he did something to deserve what you say.
But he didn't.
Beside the fact that he's not a star anymore, so this whole thread is silly, I think he's fine as an actor and director and can keep on working for years, nothwithstanding this forgettable tape recording against his ex.

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you're wrong if you heard this audio recording you would change your mind about this being his death nail as far as his career is concerned. it's horrible and unforgivable and inexcusable.

yes it is a good reason to consider yourself a bad person because only a bad person says what he said. yes he did he said those horrible things to her.

uh he's not a star anymore because he said those anti semitic things. that's what this is all about. that's why he's blacklisted and is not a star in hollywood anymore and will never make a big movie ever again in which he's a star.

it being public has nothing to do with it existing. its' not like this is a court of law here things are inadmissible.

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His personal life --and saying "hurtful" things to someone--is not related to whether he receives work, or most of us would be unemployed. And those horrible things he said were words; he did not harm or kill anyone. Maybe she needed to hear it.

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you're a horrible person if you think those things were acceptable and productive and constructive and edifying to say to someone in a relationship with you.

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Now, I'm horrible? You're wrapped in "horrible person"; their actions may have been horrible, but it doesn't mean the person is. But, even if they are horrible people (which is vague), why are you affected by celebrities who are? The world is full of horrible people and/or horrible acts.

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yes you are if you think those things are acceptable and normal and productive constructive and edifying to say to someone you are in a relationship with. i'm sure you would be devastated and really hurt if someone you were in a relationship with said those things to you, those disrespectful and dehumanizing things. and if you just accepted it, like i said acceptable, then that is wrong also.

a judge of a person is exactly their actions and words. what else is there in a person?

bc this is who i care about actors and other people who make movies.

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Nobody is accepting bad behavior. But we do not live in an ideal world where things are always going to be ''normal, productive, constructive and edifying'' . You also will not necessarily know the complete story of these people just by reading about them in a tabloid. Horrible people are capable of kindness, and good people are capable of unkindness.

You also said ''this is who i care about actors and other people who make movies''. Worship from afar, so you don't become disappointment when you find out they are not the people whom you would like them to be. You don't know them .They are mere humans who happened to get into the film business, nothing more. Enjoy the people that you find in the world who you actually get to know, and care about.

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Maybe corrupt, disgusting, dirty Hollyweed is doing him a favor.

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