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The Pacific Palisades look like…


A town bombed into rubble during one of the world wars.
This SoCal wildfire is a horror show of godawful proportions.


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I've thought about our posters who live in California and hope they are not in its path.

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I woke up this morning and it looked like Armageddon outside. The sky is almost totally black from smoke.

https://imgur.com/a/FwHh1Xm

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Ohhh noooo. Vince be safe. I hope it can be contained before it gets any closer to you.

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Yeah, I'm in South Bay so I'm in no fire danger here. But there's soot and ash allover my truck!

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I was thinking about you and KOWALSKI today. I hope you are all safe. I feel terrible for those effected.

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Nope, I live very far away from there. Most sane Californians don't live in the LA basin. One of the nice things about California is that it's a very big state, so there are many places one can live that aren't in Disneyland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Sacramento.

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Those fires have existend since forever, they only get bigger every year.
Personally I have always wondered why people would build entire cities in such a dangerous region.
Totally independent from climate change as the main driver that makes these fires ever bigger, it's like people forgetting within a couple of decades that what has happened there before can happen any time again and next time can always be bigger than last time.

California isn't the only region in the world doing this, there are countless examples all over the world where people build cities despite obvious danger.
The city of Naples, Italy is located at the foot of an active volcano and they don't have the slightest clue how to get people out of there in case it erupts.
The city of Kobe, Japan is located in one of the most seismically active areas in the world, in 1995 an earthquake killed 60,000 people there, and what did they do? The've made some laws to build stronger houses and then rebuilt the city in the same place.
Over 60% of all cities with more than 8 million citizens are located at a coast that is frequently flooded by storm surges.
All of these are catastrophes waiting to happen.

A German economist once called this "Schönwetter-Politik" which translates to "nice weather politics" and has nothing to do with politics, but means the human habit of looking at some place when it has nice weather, imagining it would always be like this and then building houses there, disregarding what will happen there during times of bad weather.

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I think that people have a tendency to spread out, explore new places, settle in those places and then spread out from there again and again.
As a species, we will live anywhere if we think we can make a life for ourselves there.


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Correct, but essentially says the same thing I said.
"... we will live anywhere if we think we can make a life ..." is an exact match to my "nice weather politics"

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I don’t disagree.


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Another uberwealthy community in SoCal is "Rolling Hills" on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, about 30 minutes south of Pacific Palisades. (Tiger Woods was living on a different part of the peninsula when he crashed his car.)

It's friggin' named "Rolling Hills" and probably has been named that for 1,000 years before the Spanish came... the land shifts... people build multimillion dollar mansions because the land didn't shift yesterday....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palos_Verdes_Peninsula

Can't beat the views.

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I just hope the boys at Station 51 are able to get a few winks.

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..burnt matchsticks lying every which way..

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I heard that some people have no fire insurance because the insurance companies won't cover fire there any longer.

Anyone else hear that/can verify it?

If true, sounds horrible for regular folk.

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Apparently, insurance companies canceled thousands of policies in that area months ago.
From what I gather, the insurance companies say they had to do it for financial reasons.
I heard (but am not certain) that there are rules in Cali against raising insurance rates, which is why the insurance companies had to cancel policies, rather than risk bankruptcies.
Don’t know if this is true. Certainly don’t think we should take the word of insurance companies without more information about what happened.


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Whether or not it's true, they straight up said as much on the news. They got what they voted for and celebrated.

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I was just in this area last week,(Hollywood and Pasadena), and have been following the news about the fires.

Such a tragedy for those who have lost lives and property. I was reading that the Rose Bowl is being used to house larger animals - not exactly sure what that means - domestic strays, displaced?

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Dogs, maybe horses I guess.
This situation is insane.


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Karen Bass should be ashamed of herself and this is just another example of DEI gone awry instead of the better candidate with actual experience

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