Did I Miss An OP About The Following:IMDb Is Now Listing Gender/Gender Identity Re: Actors/Actresses?
This isn’t politics…this is reality. 😱 Excuse me as I have to regurgitate. 🫢
shareThis isn’t politics…this is reality. 😱 Excuse me as I have to regurgitate. 🫢
shareIt is a politically charged topic though.
shareDo you really think so? I thought it over several times before posting. IMHO I decided it was a personal choice and nothing political. Now if you bring government officials into the mix then I can agree with your reply. Such as those pandering to these people and removing traffic signs such as “NO U-TURNS”.
shareI don't think that you made it political. I don't think that this should have anything to do with politics. I'm just going by a lot of posters on this forum who jump all over posts like this and make it political. I hope they don't.
shareDon't worry about it too much; Keelai pulls this often enough that you're not doing anything out of the ordinary.
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/65e202247da30c49ef24ac7c/Why-Is-There-a-Rule-Against-Long-Hair-for-School-Boys
Ignore stuff like this, it never amounts to anything. Just a bunch of bullshit👎
At my job in NYC the chic thing now is to announce pronouns in our E-Mails (him, his, he…)
I’m not buying ANY of it.
Piss off. My personal life has NOTHING to do with my professional performance.
Just out of curiosity, if I started referring to you as "she" would it bother you?
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm honestly asking.
I guess because I work in the arts, it's a normal thing for me. If we are in a group cast setting, we all just say our names and preferred pronouns. It doesn't make a difference for me as I don't care what someone calls me, but if someone wants to be referred to as they/them, I'd rather know so I don't call them something that they don't want to be called.
Just out of curiosity, if I started referring to you as "she" would it bother you?
Even if it were used as insult, it wouldn’t hurt me.
I find the pronoun thing very silly.
I’m a fairly unattractive large white man, half hillbilly and half ghetto, nobody could possibly confuse me for a Lady and why should I have to clear that up!?
I resent any push to explain my gender or anyone’s gender for that matter.
Ps: you know I have great respect for you and I admire your artistic pursuits. Some of this stuff just becomes absurd at some point.
But it's not about you though.
If someone's gender is on their profile, you won't misgender them. I'm not saying that we need to be wearing signs, but if I want to be they/them, would you insist on calling me she? Or would you just roll with it and say they are joining the chat tonight?
It is very much about me when my language is changed by a tiny minority.
I see gays and trannies daily in NYC, I don’t talk to them and they don’t come near me, they are better off.
I am not changing pronouns for loudmouthed oddballs.
If they want to act all funny that’s not on me, I just ignore them.
I am not changing pronouns for loudmouthed oddballs.
If they want to act all funny that’s not on me, I just ignore them.
My daughters have taught me the importance of using the correct pronouns for their friends, and I’ve been more than happy to do so to help in making them feel accepted. Honestly, I feel like it’s a small thing to do to make someone happy.
shareHonestly, I feel like it’s a small thing to do to make someone happy.
They are forcing us to accept what they feel. They can believe who or what they are as long as it stops at arm’s length. When they go beyond that they are into my space and making the world a more dangerous place. Taking down traffic signs because the signs somehow offended their warped feelings? Taking their daughter to have her boobs whacked off just because she felt she was male? Hells Bells! I was a tomboy! I wanted to be a boy so I could do the things they did, but thank the Good Lord we didn’t live in a “gone to hell in a hand basket” world at that time.
I refuse to do the pronoun loopy-loop!
I'm not talking about surgery. That is a different topic completely.
I'm talking about having respect for other people. If it's an illness find a cure. Is it a mental illness? I don't know. I know I don't treat people with other mental illnesses with the same distain. If it helps someone not want to hurt themselves, or kill themselves, then I will do it. I will not apologise for that. I don't understand what they are going through, but I'll be damned if I contribute to whatever hell they are going through.
All I’m saying is I’m not going to play the pronoun thingy. If the person wants to be addressed as a he or a she…dress the part. We will end up losing our minds attempting to determine how to refer to someone. Damn! I’m happy I’m no longer in the workforce. I don’t believe we are better as people when workers have to tippy toe on eggshells.
My deceased husband was a part of the IT group in the educational system. There came a time when he could no longer compliment a woman. He would be terminated. These are women he had worked with for 20 or more years, ate lunch with them, but then they had to be treated as strangers. Sad, sad…
Trust me everyone already knows grandma is racist and homopphobic, and they don't care. That's just grandma.
Signed, million man
Your “grandma is racist and homopphobic”? Have you talked to her about her feelings. More than likely she’s just bigoted against other people and not truly a racist…a word that has been bandied about so often to the point it’s been watered down. Please learn the meaning of racist.
Racist: Noun Someone who believes that their race makes them better, more intelligent, more moral, etc. than people of other races and who does or says unfair or harmful things.”Does she think this way?
She may not even be bigoted, just set in her ways. Archie Bunker was a bigot. Hitler was a racist.
As far as being, using your terminology, she may not be homophobic. She may believe its wrong, but she doesn’t hate them. She may believe people who don’t approve of their lifestyle shouldn’t be forced to do something which goes against their beliefs. In other words she should be permitted to live with her beliefs. She more than likely doesn’t want them harmed. Your grandma doesn’t have to embrace them. Just be kind to them.
All my grandparents are long deceased. I was just using that as an example that younger people just shrug this behavior off as old fashioned. It is better to be nice to people instead of being mean to them. You expend alot less energy being nicer. It really comes down to your offspring being sad that you passed away not happy that ding dong the witch is dead. There are alot more important things to focus your energy on. Be positive not negative.
Signed, million man.
"I refuse to do the pronoun loopy-loop!"
Well the thing is the younger generation does not care about this and accepts it. Your way of thinking will expire when you do.
Signed, million man.
Then I won’t have to deal with it. I have a feeling the younger generation cares more than you think they do. It is rather confusing. It has to be mind blowing! Ever heard of Orwell’s 1984?
As an aside, you apparently agree with the removal of traffic signs. One being “NO U-TURN”
No. The traffic sign thing is silly. You haters always focus on the clowns. Not everyone acts like a clown. It's not fair to condemn a whole group of people on the actions of few. Not every Trans person is the "it's ma'am " guy from game stop.
Signed, million man
”The traffic sign thing is silly. You haters always focus on the clowns.”
I’m not a hater. I just don’t approve of their lifestyle which is mt right. BTW, it’s not silly! It’s just the beginning. You don’t realize at this point, our freedom of speech and beliefs are in jeopardy. We are being forced to speak a certain way, to believe a certain way…their way.
Social engineering is alive and well. “My thoughts are your thoughts.” We are being indoctrinated to accept their lifestyles. Can you imagine how difficult it is for a child to be taught one thing at home and church then at school they are taught the opposite. Of course reading, writing, & math have to make way for the new alphabet. They may graduate without knowledge of the above, but they for sure know about the different lifestyles! School is not the place for social engineering.
The only instruction needed for children is “It doesn’t matter what your beliefs are, you should be kind to one another. Treat them as you wish to be treated.” That’s it in a nutshell. No more…no less!
Also, people live in fear at their workplace.
Nobody is forcing you to speak a certain way. They are just asking. As for being kind to one another it starts with you being kind and understanding of other people wanting to be happy and not be afraid to go outside and being beaten up or killed because of their sexuality. It is always about Me Me Me with you people. How do I feel about this. Never even considering the feelings of the person who has it worse off than you do.
Signed, million man.
Why would you assume I’m not kind to those who live a different lifestyle? I would hope we’ve reached a point in society where those who are different are foremost… human beings. I may not accept their lifestyle, but I wish no harm upon them. They should “not be afraid to go outside and being beaten up or killed because of their sexuality.”
What I do have a problem with are the flamboyant types. They are disgusting with their actions while in a parade, but they are a minority so I don’t broad brush.
Like I said those are the clowns. Why are you or kids for that matter watching that parade?
Signed, million man
We aren’t. We were watching the news. Also. there have been reports of sexual displays during June at Walt Disney World. Other visitors want to shout “Get a room.” If I were visiting I would feel the same if it happened to be a heterosexual couple putting on a public display.
shareExactly. It's a lewdness issue not a Trans issue. Girls whip out their boobies at sports games and nobody complains. They cheer them on. It's basically the same thing.
Signed, million man.
Why would you assume I’m not kind to those who live a different lifestyle? I would hope we’ve reached a point in society where those who are different are foremost… human beings.
To answer your question I believe the discussion I’m having currently is regarding homosexuals. As to trans types wouldn’t they be dressed as per their gender identity? Of course if I didn’t know the person I would address the person as Mr. if clothed in male garb or Ms. if clothed in female garb.
Also, since he, she, it are third person pronouns I wouldn’t address the person standing before me with one of those. Instead it would be ”You”. BTW, if a stranger I wouldn’t be aware if the person was “trans”.
You're whole OP was about pronouns. The comment I mentioned was your reply about speaking a certain way. That's not really a homosexual issue, that's a trans issue.
You then went on to talk about lewdness at Pride, but that wasn't what I was replying to.
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Signed, million man.
I’m dealing with it now, I thought you knew this quite frankly Sis.
But reality is the real world, if you are born with a dangler you are a boy, you may choose a different life but I don’t have to follow instructions. I just won’t.
I saw below that you said they should seek psychiatric help. Most of them have. If you have a treatment plan for them, or some kind of cure, you should share it with the world. I'm sure those who have committed suicide because of that confusion would have really liked to know it.
I refuse to be the person who makes someone's life more difficult than it needs to be, and if calling someone by a name they prefer, or switching a he to a she or the other way around it's no skin off my back,
And I refuse to be involved with weirdos, No offense to them but they’d best stay across the street.
shareIt is very much about me when my language is changed by a tiny minority.
WHICH IS NOT NECESARILY A BAD THING....MANY OF US USED TO USE OUTRIGHT SLURS IN EVERYDAY SPEECH AND WORSE.
CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FOR THE "MINORITY" CAN OFTEN BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
I do not encounter slurs in my daily life, my cohort is very fair and open to any and all company.
But I don’t put up with horseshit from anybody
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I dunno, I kind of miss throwing the f word around casually.
I'm not referring to fuck.
It’s not the word ‘faggot’ that I miss, I have had some gay relatives I liked quite a lot. I don’t use that term, I find it cruel.
It’s the idea that I have to announce my fucking ‘gender!’ First of all I’m a large Irishman, you’d need to be blind to think I’m queer!
Pronouns are horseshit, it’s not anyone’s business how you roll.
Who said anything about faggot(s)?
I was obviously referring to fudge packers like Tom Cruise.
I was hoping Kowalski would take that bait. Lol
Perhaps I misunderstood, if so I honestly apologize.
I’ve had a couple gay relatives that were really quite nice, successful men.
I don’t get it either but they were OK guys and we all loved them.
“I see gays and trannies daily in NYC, I don’t talk to them and they don’t come near me, they are better off.”
This surprises me coming from you, you seemed much more friendly and chilled than that. I’m sure if those gays and “trannies” did approach you, you might find they were just regular people like yourself who don’t need to be actively avoided.
I want nothing to do with those sorts. Let that lot live as they please but stop pushing that on the rest of us.
It’s weird behavior, no hate but back the fuck off. Don’t push that weird shit. I don’t like queer stuff.
MWMC Broke back mountain. Let's do it!
Signed, million man.
No.
No hate but that’s not what I like.
The gays can be polite or get lost.
I’m being polite.
Gays and trans people have been around since the Egyptians and have always been chill people. I don't understand why all of a sudden they are a problem.
Signed, million man.
I don’t care for anyone pushing an agenda. Keep that shit to their own. I’m not pushing straightness at them. Keep it in your bedroom.
shareSo you only want heterosexuals to be able to show affection in public. Got it. That's a very Muslim way of thinking. While we're at it let's throw blankets over women and speak Ye Olde English because we can't stand the language changing. We are going backwards now. Let's be cavemen. Hurr
Signed, million man.
I don’t like any PDAs from anyone.
shareGot it
shareWeird. No one is pushing any gay stuff on me.
Signed, million man.
No, I wasn’t clear enough and that’s on me. The gays and trans I was (poorly) describing are street hustlers, dope peddlers and prostitutes. I don’t want those aggressive, desperate animals on the same block as me.
shareThat makes alot more sense. I don't think you will any arguments there.
Signed, million man
ETA: you’d have to be half blind or trolling to mistake me for a woman😄
shareAgain, no one is mistaking YOU for a woman.
It's about respecting someone else and what they want to be called. That's it. Nothing more.
They should just stick to the language we agreed upon.
All due respect, I love you Sis but changing language and arguing with biology is a huge ask. I’m not supporting it. Just be gay and play dress up. They DON’T get to change a language.
I agree, at my company we have signatures that include our names, positions, locations and contact information. Everything you need to address me in a one on one contact is there. There is no need to use pronouns in such a format. Some names can throw you off, but since you are referring to them by their name it shouldn’t matter.
shareI like Italian women, I root for the NY Giants and my favorite ice cream is Rocky Road.
What the fuck else should we share?
The oddballs have gone too far with this stuff.
our company added that pronoun option to, to our email signature, because it is the "business virtue-signal dejour".
MAYBE 1% of the company bothers announcing pronouns... nobody else gives a shit or bothers with it or them (them meaning PLURAL of the people doing it) ....
and I am almost positive that 1% is ONLY the staff involved with DEI....
.... staff that I am hearing will problably be released from employement for wasting time, money and accomplishing nothing.... when the virtue de jour fades off here very soon.
It's so dumb.
Say.... how's that EBONICS working out now? :D
Ignore it.
It’s nonsense.
I really love my colleagues but they all did the ‘pronoun’ thing to please the bosses.
When I am found dead it will be with an empty magazine and boots on!
I’m not putting up with this trash.
Say.... how's that EBONICS working out now? :D
I dunno. If someone wants to speak Ebonics that's fine with me. I might laugh uncontrollably as they do so because I'll be thinking of those scenes from Airplane, but if the speaker is OK with that then so am I.
shareI used to have a drug dealer that would speak in ebonics. I had a hard time understanding them, but they could understand me just fine. Which tells you that they are capable of speaking like a human being, they just choose not to.
shareAre you 100% positive that he wasn't just bilingual?
Proof that some people are gifted enough to be bilingual in English and Ebonics:
https://youtu.be/a6TraLJf6iw?
It is crazy that not listening and ignoring nonsense labels us. It’s the exact opposite of free speech.
These liars will not push me around.
Yes, it is compelled speech. And I will not comply. I will not participate in their delusion. I will not submit to the degenerate trans activists. Putting on a dress does not magically turn you into a female, even if you believe it does. If you were born a male then you are a man. You will always be a man. Even if you chop your dick off, you will still be a man. You'll just be a eunuch.
shareI don't think any real people will comply. We have better things to do in life and moved on.
Stupid is as stupid does... there will always be the stupids for us to ignore.
Still sad we allowed delusion to get this far.
Agreed. We must take responsibility for our mistakes. We are responsible for allowing this to get this far. We allowed ourselves to be seduced by libertarian ideology. I think most of us, even if we don't identify as libertarian, have internalized a lot of that ideology. As the degeneracy started to get out of control we told ourselves that it's not our problem. That people should just do whatever they like. It's not our business. Well now it's so out of control that they are making it our business. They have taken over all our institutions and are demanding that we conform to their ideology. What we should have done is create strict boundaries 20 years ago, when it was just starting. Make it clear that while we can tolerate some things, there are things we will not tolerate. But we failed. Now if we want to return our society to something resembling normal, we have to be the bad guys. We have to be firm. For this they are going to call us fascists. Well, so be it. I'll be their huckleberry. I'll be their fascist. The time for tolerance is over.
sharefull on truth
shareBigot, nazi and the like are definitely losing their sting and psychological impact through overuse and misapplication.
I can't argue with any of that and I suspect more will be marching to that beat in the near future.
That's what I'm trying to do, take the sting out of that label. Push my extreme ideology on them the way they did it to us, and in the process create room for reasonable people like you. If it's a choice between real fascism and moderate conservatism, they will be happy to take the moderate conservatism. To put it another way — you are the carrot and I'm the stick.
shareThat makes sense and is a pragmatic approach; push the boundary as far as possible and if it settles in the middle it's still a win.
shareExactly. It's also fun to just fuck with them. All their power comes from threatening you with those labels. When you get called a fascist or a racist people will oftentimes get defensive and dig themselves into a hole they can't get out of. But with me, all that bullshit goes right out the window. All those rhetorical tricks, mind games, guilt trips, power plays, and other manipulation tactics, all useless, because I just straight up tell them that yes, I'm a racist and Nazi and I want to purge you from society. This breaks their brain. They are not prepared for having someone confront them so brutally and without any obfuscation. Now they're powerless and the only thing they can do is chimp out. And then it's nothing but lulz.
shareEven if curiousMind is larping about being a nazi, it is still the public face he deliberately shows to the world. So I would argue that yes, although fascist, nazi etc are overused as attacks on people - that is EXACTLY what he is leaning into... So what's inaccurate about calling him that?
>I can't argue with any of that and I suspect more will be marching to that beat in the near future.
Also I remember when you told me you were a moderate. Now you're concurring with a guy who wants to implement reactionary legal restrictions on modern media.
You are not, by any sensible observation anywhere near being moderate or centrist.
I was wondering when you would branch out and join this non-politics, political discussion. Welcome Skavau!
shareI don’t think there is anything wrong with listing an actor’s gender.
shareCan you give an example? I randomly searched a few names and didn’t see it.
shareNot every actor has it, they need to submit it themselves. It's under "personal details" located a little after their entire filmography. It's near their date of birth and height.
sharehttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm2169100/?ref_=tt_cl_t_6
“Self-verified on IMDbPro
Gender / Gender identity
Male”
IF MAKING PEOPLE MORE COMFORTABLE IS AS EASY AS USING A DIFFERENT WORD THAN I AM USED TO....I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
shareI’m never going to pick a fight Brother but if they are sore about something so silly they should seek psychiatric help.
If you are born with a pecker or a vagina you know what you are. Seek professional help if you can’t handle reality.
I’m an extremely plain large male. I don’t identify as Brad Pitt. Reality is real. No fighting it.
You're making way too many good points to keep track of here.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Thanks.
I generally support gay and trans issues, I don’t have hate but they DO NOT dictate terms!
I speak English, I know what I’m saying.
I do.
Calling an individual "they" or hearing a single person referred to as "they" creates a blue screen of death in my internal mental operating system and I refuse to comply.
Same with "them."
Agreed 100%. The whole thing is analogous to insisting that people introduce themselves with their horoscope sign just because some fringe cohort believes in it. I would no more participate in speech designed to force my acquiescence to the pseudoscience of astrology than I would to the pseudoscience of gender ideology.
shareDid you just miszodiac me and assume I'm a Taurus? As a Pisces I take great offense at that.
That would be pretty ridiculous as well.
Great analogy. I'm definitely going to steal it.
shareSame here.
shareYeah, generally a subject like this will somehow always end up involving Politics to a degree when the subject is so heavily prominent now in our society and it's sort of impossible not to bring Politics up
shareI'll never forget the first time I met a transvestite as a teenager. It was in the red light district of a military town where my underage buddies and I used to go to buy booze during the weekends. All of a sudden one night, we encountered this tall black guy on a sidewalk, dressed like a female prostitute, but with a very deep male voice. I was mesmerized, frozen. A few years later, this song became popular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemG0cvc4oU What immediately caught my attention when I heard it was this lyric...." Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand...why she walked like a woman but talked like a man..."
shareHello to your main account from your sock.
That's funny. The first time I can remember encountering the notion of what a tranny is was when my parents explained the meaning of the song "Lola" to me at a young age. That and that scene from the movie Crocodile Dundee.
Totally kidding about that first line of course and fuck that guy. You know who I'm referring to.
From my main account:https://medium.com/@yai.daily.official/10-odd-things-intelligent-people-do-9c60ba9495b5#:~:text=Many%20people%20talk%20to%20themselves,cognitive%20development%20and%20personal%20growth.👍😄
Another lyric that stands out in my mind from that song, "...girls will be boys and boys will be girls...it's a mixed up world..."