SERIOUSLY?...THIS MODERATION IS FUCKING KILLING THIS PLACE,GUYS...YOU LEAVE UP FROTHY INTOLERANT POSTS AND DELETE 15 COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY GO AGAINST A MONSTER...THIS IS FUCKED...IF YOU ARE LEANING TOWARDS ABORTING THIS SITE...GOOD WORK...IF NOT...WHAT THE FUCK?...THIS BULLSHIT IS LITERALLY KILLING THE SITE...ONE DECENT POSTER AFTER ANOTHER VANISHING...LEAVING MORE SPACE FOR ASSHOLES WITH UGLY THOUGHTS AND ZERO MANNERS...I JUST DON'T GET IT...I LOVE THIS SITE AND THE HUMANS WHO POST HERE...I PIMP THE SITE OUT ON EVERY OTHER PLATFORM I USE...I MENTION IT TO PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE...WE NEED MORE DECENT PEOPLE NOT LESS...COME ON,GUYS....DO BETTER...PLEASE.🤨
Ticketsplease is a troll but he's hardly the only one at Moviechat and he does cop a constant barrage of abuse for his trolling the only result of which is that he seems to be getting worse. I think people would be better off just ignoring him if they don't like what he posts. After all the Mods decide who does or doesn't get canned here not some of the posters and that's the way it should be.
HE SAID THAT AFTER A HOMOPHOBIC THREAD STARTED BY THE SHITSTAIN GOT MASS DELETED...YOU KNOW...EXCEPT THE SHITSTAIN'S POSTS...FULL ON BULLSHIT TOP TO BOTTOM.
I don't know if it was the same thread, but there was a recent one that was absolutely homophobic and incredibly misogynist. It was one of the reasons that I've not been posting lately.
Not posters no. But I do think that there does need to be a little bit more enforcement of the site standards. There have been several posts which are blatantly prohibited content, and they are allowed. There doesn't seem to be any sort of consistency as to what is allowed and what isn't.
I agree that there are posts that appear to break the rules and are left up. But we have to understand that someone needs to actually report the post to have it reviewed by a mod. Mods don't have the time to read every single post. There are some posters here who claim they've never reported a post. That's fine. There are also posts that appear to violate the site standards, but if folks just assume that it has been reported, well...it may be that it never happened. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Mods can't win, no matter what they do.
I agree with this 100%. Which is why I'm not bashing the mods. It's a job I'd not want. I just know that we used to have more of them, and it seems like it's mostly Mod5 doing all the work around here. That's why I was requesting more mods. Despite what Quasimodo seems to think, I don't want anyone banned just because I disagree with them. But I do want posts which violate site standards to be deleted, or at least have a warning issued. I admit I didn't report for the first couple of years because I didn't want to be annoying to the mods, but I do report posts now.
The one and only post I ever reported occurred over 5 years ago and it was from a bona fide troll who was eventually banned.
I agree. It looks like a really thankless position, much like with good cops nowadays in large cities, retiring early in record numbers.
I was approached to become a mod in a couple of other forums I belonged to. One site creator tried to entice me with the great software I'd have access to. I said, "No thanks, I'm just here to have fun and engage in interesting discussion."
No, one who is consistent. For example, recently I had one of my posts deleted by a mod because I wrote a bunch of parody porn titles and the mod didn't like that there was too much profanity. However, db20db on a regular basis, harasses people and tells them to "fuck off", and none of his posts get deleted. When you look at his posting history, he does this often and somehow gets away with it. At one point I counted 10 different users that he attacked unprovoked. The standards on this site are all over the place.
I understand the frustration but "the art" of moderating is bound to be a messy business. I'm in the less is more camp so I like the way the Mods go about their business here. If the Mods did become more "robust" I think people would soon start bitching about that.
THAT PART I DON'T AGREE WITH...HE GETS ONE MINDED WITH PEOPLE...AND SHOULD BE WARNED WHEN IT'S UNPROVOKED AND RELENTLESS...BUT THE BACK AND FORTH'S YOU GUYS HAVE WITH HIM CRACK ME UP.
Again, swearing is not an issue. I view db20db's posts in their context, which is always part of a back-and-forth with other, equally acid-tongued members. We generally do not get involved in these situations.
We very rarely take action with respect to claims of harassment. But in two recent cases, the harassment has been obvious, repeated, and unprovoked (beyond general claims that the members are "trolls"), and it got to the point where one of them was literally begging for it to stop. It will not be allowed to continue.
If people chose to quit this site because they either can't bring themselves to ignore two people they don't like or can't restrain themselves from harassing those people, that is regrettable, but it is their choice.
I view db20db's posts in their context, which is always part of a back-and-forth with other, equally acid-tongued members.
Always part of a back-and-forth? Where were any of the mods the first few years when he came at me for no reason and I said nothing back? So now because I've been doing what he's doing, it counts as a back-and-forth?
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Yes, if you are doing what he is doing, that would count as a back-and-forth.
With respect to what happened in "the first few years"– I've been a moderator since July 2017 and that has been my experience. Looking at our moderator spreadsheet, where all enforcement actions are logged, I see only one warning from another mod on his record from 5 years ago:
Informal "soft" warning for repeatedly accusing others of being Ben
Regardless, I'm not going to dig up five year-old posts to re-litigate whatever disputes may have occurred at that time.
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Agreed. db20db has been hostile and abusive to multiple posters, often unprovoked and he has said things that were out of line on more than one occasion.
He says he only attacks people who come after him. There were so many times the first few years I wasn't talking to or about him, and he unleashed on me. There was one occasion a few months ago where he went after Mrmojo who made a regular comment. I mean, who goes after Mrmojo? Mojo, the classy gent he is, just ignored it.
Why don't you provide a link to that and prove it, liar? You also lied to Mod 5 when you said I first came after you "for no reason." I've made myself clear about that time and again, yet you want to constantly portray yourself as some innocent victim. The reality is, you're a whiny drama queen and rabble rouser.
Mojo and I are on good terms. We wished each other Happy New Year just last night.
Why don't you provide a link to that and prove it, liar?
I'd have to go back who knows how long to find that exact comment where you said you don't come after me unless I was talking about you. I actually called you out shortly after when you responded to me in a post that had nothing to do with you and I said, "what happened to only going after me when I'm not talking about you?" You didn't respond.
Also, last time you told me to provide you links of unprovoked attacks on other users, not just me, your response was "it's pretty pathetic that you went through my history to find these". Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
When I mentioned the link, I was talking about your allegation concerning Mojo. You made this allegation some time back, I cleared it up, now you're making it again.
If you're not putting a distorted, deceitful spin to a post of mine, or a situation, you're wildly exaggerating or just plain lying like hell! You're a real snake in the grass.
I sent you the link to Mojo at the time and you said that you buried the hatchet and were good. But that doesn't change the fact that you made an unprovoked attacked on one of the most lovable users on this site.
There you go again! That's what I mean by distorted spin. I don't remember you sending me a link, just the accusation. And it wasn't an "unprovoked attack" (exaggeration, lie). It was a very brief misunderstanding that was quickly cleared up and we've been getting along just fine ever since.
He didn't respond to your attack. If you got lovey-dovey with him, it happened in another thread. If you say you cleared it up, you acknowledge the comment I was talking about exists.
One last time, snake! It was not an "attack" it was a brief misunderstanding. And he didn't ignore me (another lie), he quickly explained what he had meant and it was over within minutes. I'm pretty sure you didn't send me a link because if you had, it would have immediately disproved your allegation, so that's another lie.
You're such a whiny wuss! You once characterized a simple question I asked you as "an attack."
In your attack, he didn't respond to you. There was still no response to it days later, so he obviously ignored your attack. If he explained anything, he either did that on a completely different thread, or you are referring to a different attack on him.
There was never any attack on Mojo, liar. Provide the same link you claim you did previously. It should be easy enough for you to do, to prove your allegation.
You already responded to the link and now you want me to search for it again? You just claimed that you settled it with Mojo too.
Maybe it's better if you just stop responding to me because no matter what I say, you'll just respond with your common "there's that lying, self attention you do so often". You're just wasting your time.
I didn't respond to the nonexistent link because you never sent one, liar. Why don't we bring Mojo in here and ask him if I ever attacked him, especially in an unprovoked manner. You're a liar, always have been, that's all there is to it.
You sure do seem to have a lot of ‘misunderstandings’ with well known, valued posters.
You went after Allaby last year when he was clearly making a silly, light hearted joke that everyone else just laughed off.
Some posters just like to have fun and make jokes, they don’t need an angry asshole swooping out of nowhere firing both barrels dipshit.
You are an angry nut and I’m happy to tell you so.
This db character told me ages ago he hated me, etc. so I figured OK, avoid this one. Lo and behold the weirdo responds to me with angry insults every week when I’m not even posting to him and he’s not involved in the thread.
I’ve had enough of him, he’s going to get more of me than he wanted.
It’s ‘attention whoring,’ one of his favorite insults. He’s retired, alone, divorced and has little contact with the family he drove off so like any bratty little punk he seeks any attention that he can get.
Open your eyes, he claims to ‘despise’ posters and then opens fire on them a day later inviting more discourse...
I’ve responded to that useless poster with equal venom and I’m the bad guy?
There is a weird system of modding going on here.
I’m not trying to seem nice to you because I’m not a very nice guy and I’m sure modding is not easy, but if you don’t see db as a huge pest you are a blind man. Nobody likes the guy, he’s a constant fire starter.
For the record I did not say cock at all. And while you’re revelling in this situation Quasimodo, don’t forget that you yourself have said far more obscene things here. But not to worry, you’ll always be safe because your bigotry is EXACTLY the type of filth that the MovieChat hopes to promote, protect and nurture.
I knew you'd be back ! And I definitely recall seeing the use of the word "cock" but my memory is not infallible. So what did you say exactly. It was offensive to the Mod(s) wasn't it.
I certainly hope it was, because that was absolutely my intention.
And before you pat yourself on the back over your predictive powers, I didn’t say I would never be back, I said “see ya MovieChat” meaning that I’m done with posting here regularly. Which I am.
I’m fine with having that post deleted. I think the message I was sending was received loud and clear. It’s just that TexasModerator didn’t want others to see it, but he failed.
I used to come here to post about entertainment topics. I only recently started participating in political conversations because it seems this site has been hijacked by Russian bots and MAGA trolls. Really sad that this site has been allowed to drift in that direction. There are plenty of other places online for these types to post their propaganda.
Yeah I get it but being a Mod would be a pain in the arse and I wouldn't do it so I think some posters should refrain from bitching about Mod(s) not doing what they want.
I'd be a mod if I had more time to be here and was more computer savvy. I'm just saying that certain mods have their favourites because there have been blatant infractions where nothing is done, and then harmless ones get deleted.
You’d be be an excellent Mod SJ. You are a reasonable and even-handed person and respectful when you disagree with people. The only bad judgment you have demonstrated involves your disdain for the Beach Boys.
He's too deceitful to ever be a mod, much less a good one. It's this type of thinking that leads to the wrong types of people in positions where they don't belong and why we have such a turbulent world.
JUST TO BE CLEAR...THIS IS THE FIRST SITE I HAVE POSTED ON IN A LONG TIME THAT I MYSELF AM NOT A MOD...I HAVE BEEN MODERATING ASSHOLE TEA PARTIES SINCE THE EARLY 2000'S...THIS SITE IS UNDER-MANNED AND LOSING ACTUAL POSTERS AT A HIGHER RATE THAN IT'S PICKING UP TROLLS...THIS CURRENT SITUATION BEING DISCUSSED IS CLEARLY A PROBLEM...A PROBLEM THAT IS BEING HANDLED IN A VERY SUSPICIOUS MANNER.
Yeah well I don't agree with your take on it Kowalski. I think the lack of traffic on Moviechat has got more to do with a small clique of old posters ( don't forget I'm an "old" poster here too ) who think they own this place and have the right to run people off if they don't like them which they try to do on a regular basis.
NO...I DON'T...BUT I DO GET TO SAY SOMETHING IF I DON'T AGREE WITH SOMETHING...WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE DONE...WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR ARGUMENT ANYWAY?...THAT MOVIECHAT WOULD BE BETTER WITH ZERO RULES?
Yeah that's fine Kowalski you can like or dislike whoever you want but you don't get to have them deleted from Moviechat on your say so.
True , but the list of criteria he specified for "not liking people"
RACISTS.
PEDOPHILES.
HOMOPHOBIC ASSHOLES.
TROLLS WITH NOTHING TO ADD BUT UGLINESS.
... also coincides with (is a subset of ) valid reasons for banning people doesnt it ?
Well it's been a while since I looked over the terms and conditions of Moviechat but I don't think it actually spells things out in specific detail like that, it was more vague from memory. I get what you're saying and what Kowalski was saying but I keep repeating my point which is it's the Mods job to ban people not for some of the users to go all vigilante and try to do the job themselves.
Yeah I went and had a look at the terms after posting that , but I couldnt even find the general section on user behavior amongst all the other legal mumbo jumbo .
Yep I missed it first time as well and when a Mod coincidentally pointed out the actual relevant part of the T&C it was really brief, just a line which allowed a lot of discretion from memory.
I generally agree with this observation. I am a part-time poster, long-time reader and see this becoming more common. If you lack a 5- or 6- figure post count and express an unfashionable observation, it often seems met with coordinated criticism, insults, and ostracism from certain high-volume posters. I’m not saying it’s universal but it is a trend that has caused me to come here less.
Yes it's definitely a thing. Moviechat has been going for five years now and yet it stubbornly remains a quiet little backwater in spite of being a clone of the old IMDb message boards. There has to be a reason for it.
That is a self-serving way of looking at it. Bullying people you don't like to drive them away and keep this place like a small and exclusive club for the "PEER APPROVED MUTUAL BACK SLAPPERS" is bad behaviour and bad for Moviechat.
You're spot on with this observation. It's a trend that has existed here since the site's earliest days. I have seen promising, quality newcomers leave because of what they see as the cliquishness on this board.
You've been trying to bait me for hours now. Into a trap? Hardly.
You've really been pressing your luck lately, getting posts deleted by a Mod and alienating more posters with your ranting, hateful bullshit. Keep on projecting, chickenshit.
Not just newcomers. Do you remember Dazed? She left Moviechat years ago unfortunately and deleted her account along with many of her posts. The last one was talking about exactly this situation. I didn't get it at the time. Now I do.
It also seems that the sewing circle has been circulating my name as being the moderator. Pretty funny stuff because I think BillHicksFan was Mod5 last month. Though it does explain a few things I had been wondering about lately.
Do I ever! She was a favorite poster, a smart woman with a great sense of humor. We were discussing our concerns over that pattern via PMs shortly before she did that and she had one particular trouble maker very accurately pegged.
It also seems that the sewing circle has been circulating my name as being the moderator. Pretty funny stuff because I think BillHicksFan was Mod5 last month.
TexasJack's (one of our best, most articulate posters) last post here. His "little break" has become over half a year by now and I haven't seen the slightest peep referencing his disappearance. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Time after time I've reported posts that just use the most disgusting and ugly profanity, one ... two .... three times until one of MC's supposed moderators tells me to stop reporting it. I'm talking nothing else in the text of the post but profanity, insults, hate-speech, etc and the moderators do nothing after it is brough to their attention multiple times.
this site would be ruined if it became a sanitized libturd safe space. the internet used to be the wild west when i was a kiddo, i miss those days everybody grew such a huge pussy lately
Is it possible for you to compose a single post that does not emanate the stench of someone who spends all day typing out vitriol in a terminally online echo chamber on their cell phone, or would that be asking for the moon?
Also, please explain what the rocks and glass house thing means because it's kind of hard for me to grasp metaphors when they're thrown about by someone who fails to utilize basic grammar.
exactly this forum was created in the first place for the sole fact that the libturd tech overlords running amazon hate free speech and totally shutdown the imdb forums burnings decades of internet conversations and history just because it is virtually impossible to censor like they would like to as if they were some soviet big brother spies...
their views are so retarded they cant defend them with free speech. there only hope of domination is to restrict free speech like there Stalinist role models they look up too
HEY,YOU EVER NOTICE HOW THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO FIND IT NECESSARY TO THROW OUT THE FREE SPEECH EXCUSE ARE ALL DICKHEADS WITH NO MANNERS GRASPING AT STRAWS TO MENTALLY VALIDATE THEIR OWN SCUMBAG NATURE?
Exactly correct, and it’s fun to watch them squirm as they desperately try to pretend to themselves and others that they’re the good guys while they tyrannise people.
I don’t know how they can live with themselves, let alone sleep at night.
LOL whatever! You just threatened me a couple days ago. You invited me to your home so you could beat me to a bloody pulp. I'm paraphrasing of course. Be tougher...sticks and stones ya big baby.
Another insult. You really do have breakdowns though. I think because you're always home like a woman you forget how to control your emotions like a man.