I've been gaming my whole life, from Star Trek printed on a dot matrix printer and shown on a green screen, through all the arcades, all the consoles, and most computer games. I've played nearly all types.
Can't we come up with ANYTHING BETTER than shooting, killing and gore?
As fun as I find them to be, does anyone else think it's mostly not healthy?
9 of the 10 top STEAM games are killing.
https://steamcharts.com/
I think my favorite games of all time were the vector graphics games in the early 80s. There was a lot of shooting but it was all very abstract.
shareI agree that the shoot-em-up games are ridiculously over-represented. Having said that GTA Vice City is one of my favourite games.
But I also enjoy the EA Sports Tiger Woods PGA Tour series for PC golf game. It had quite a following and by buying the games from 2004 through to 2008 ( when they stopped producing the game for PC ) quite a few different courses were available. And then there is a website of enthusiasts Coursedownloads where some very dedicated people have created many more courses, some real and some made up, for download.
The difficulty with the older games though is that they won't run on Windows 10 ( unless some people have developed work-arounds ) which is why I still use Windows 7 Ultimate.
GTA is incredible, no doubt, I play in it, but not the usual way... mostly just exploring. when I go online, I immediately get hunted and killed. dont know why, dont care, just wont play online. but the game is amazing in every way. too bad it started and pursued evilness in crime instead of "helper" missions, like gathering food for homeless, or solving riddles in a group, or racing, or building, or FUN things instead of crime sprees
there's a lot of old stuff you can make run on 10 with some googling. worst I've had are the ones with specific copy protection star force or whatever. even sometimes those will get updated.
Flawed premise.
1. Shooter doesn't mean violence. Many shooter games don't display violence and many games that display violence are not shooters (fighting, car combat, strategy, RPG, building sim, etc.)
So you're wrong. But I'm not surprised you're doing this because conflating two different things and pretending (or too stupid) to not know it is your modus operandi. You've done this so many times everybody here knew it already.
2. Most popular and best selling games of all time are not shooters, Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Minecraft, Tetris, Pokemon, Zelda, Sonic, Gran Turismo, Forza, Need for Speed, Roblox, etc. That's not even mentioning the ANNUAL games... FIFA, Madden, NBA, F1, and all other sport fucking games!
So not only you're wrong, you're also an ignorant. Or pretend to be one, just for trolling the boards. Why do you do this? Do you need help?
It’s Jim in disguise.
shareHe has got Ticketsplease vibe lately.
shareHe's Jim too.
share100%
shareThey're all Jim, lol!
shareAbsolutely! Even the mods never deny this.
shareYear that OP is such a twat. We all see through his sock account, coming in here and creating interesting topics for us to twist and fight over. He's such a dunce. I bet he lives in his mama's basement and eats twinkies all day. Hahahaah what a chode he or she is!!!
shareHi Jim.
shareso, what are your favorite conspiracy theories?
seems like people that cant face the reality of someone not being a sock account, believe all kinds of theories that are made up also.
Flat Earth got you down? Feeling dumber via chemtrails? Flouride in water turning you into a vampire? movie chat is all sock accounts? :D
Thanks for the insults, it really aided your reply. :)
I'm not going to defend a very broad sweeping topic, respond if you want, if you understand the obvious main point.
I'm well aware of best selling games but have yet to see many thousands of people playing Mario slaughter online daily.
"Many shooter games don't display violence" what the fuck are you even saying here?? This makes zero sense in any universe. I suggest you reread your words and maybe edit it.
Anyway this topic is not about all time best selling games, it's about the most played games right now being shooter violence, and wondering if we can come p with anything better.
Please reread the OP, think about it, and try again when you have something interesting to contribute besides insults. Insults are for the weak. You can do better. :)
“Insults are for the weak. You can do better. :)”
Soldier on, butt fucker.
Will do, mother raper.
shareOh really? You think I ever said that?? If you like I can provide a link to the section where you made the butt fucker comment, if you want to be shown up as the total hypocrite you are, that is.
Insults are for the weak. Give me a fucking break. That must make you the weakest, most sorry excuse for a functioning human there is.
butt fucking is LITEREALLY one of the sexual acts in homosexuality. it was never an insult, it was acknowledgement.
homosexual acts are fine for all of society, right? little children, grandmas, everyone needs to accept it so 6% can feel validated and not abused. I was trying to help the cause.
how someone else takes things is not my problem. :) facts > feelings
What a load of insincere shit.
You will not convince me that you referred to gay people as butt fuckers in a thread where you were voicing your opposition to Pride Month and did not mean it to be insulting. If you’re so confident that it’s just a factual term with no malice behind it, I challenge you to go up to a gay coworker and greet them with “hello butt fucker” and let us know your HR department’s views on whether it’s appropriate. Of course you won’t because you’re a garden variety coward who spouts this horrible shit behind the safety of internet anonymity.
Do you think it would be appropriate for me to refer to all straight men as cunt lickers just because it’s LITERALLY a sexual act they engage in? Or would I be a nasty malcontent by using an obscene term as a blanket reference for them? You couldn’t possibly be that stupid not to know the answer.
All that said, explain how you’re not being hypocritical by banging on about people insulting you as you did in response to the relatively mild reply you got above. By your reasoning isn’t it just your problem that you took offence in the first place?
wow , the guy just started an converasation hoping to discuss why there is so much violence in video games and gets :
complaining about inconsequential bullshit
poorly thought out word vomit
So you're wrong.
or too stupid
you're also an ignorant
just for trolling the boards.
I think you two have answered his question.
humans are just innately aggressive and nasty
Some people like to let that out harmlessly in video games , some let it spill out into unprovoked attacks on real people online
You new here?
sharegood point.
I admit I play lots of shooters, but I do recognize how it has trained me to NOT hesitate if I needed to pull a REAL trigger. These games are exciting, fun, intense, rewarding, just wonder if there is some other type of gameplay that could be as big without all the cartoon violence.
either way, I'm not deterred at all and will continue to bring up interesting topics (for those interested) seeking replies from random unknown internet strangers :)
We can and we have, especially when it comes to indie game. I remember a beautiful indie game a few years back called Journey that was pretty popular and as far as I know there was no killing and pretty much no violence in the game.
Broaden your horizons and look at indie games - there's plenty there beyond the typical.
Can't we come up with ANYTHING BETTER than shooting, killing and gore?
for my topic it is totally relevant. i'm talking about the most played games - generally, they are online against each other.
I can WISH a nice polite game of golf was the number one draw...
but yeah, humans are sick and twisted, so I guess I should not be surprised virtual murder is all the rage
i'm talking about the most played games
generally, they are online against each other
but yeah, humans are sick and twisted, so I guess I should not be surprised virtual murder is all the rage
I can WISH a nice polite game of golf was the number one draw
humans are sick and twisted
If they require killing, then they're violent. The OP is right.
shareNo he is isn't and neither are you
Is killing a zombie the same as killing aperson = No
Is killing a bad cell in a medical simualtor the same as kiling a person = No
How about killing a dinosaur or a mutated animal, how about aliens hell bent on world destruction.
So your wrong and so is the OP.
"shooting, killing and gore"
The issue is the lack of imagination in the video game industry. There should be more than one type of storyline.
You are just an idiot. I'm not sorry for saying that, the truth is you are.
Lack of imagination. Genuinly are you that stupid or does it come naturally. How many 10's of thousands of games are you going to dismiss based on your lack of knowledge.
There should be more than one type of storyline.
Meanwhile, you can't name one non-violent premium game.
shareSubnautica. Minecraft. Roblox. Any sports game that is released every year.
My god farming simulator. How about microsoft flight simluator.
Is cartoon violence the same as adult violence. I'm asking as I want to know the rules you have set in place.
the EXAMPLE Was here:
9 of the 10 top STEAM games are killing.
https://steamcharts.com/
I'll recant a little... maybe my thought was not very clear.... BETTER as in SO FUN it fills up the top 10 game played in that steam list. it appears there isn't. I get it... I play shooters too, but seems kinda bad that is the majority of game types we flock to.
Minecraft, sports games, flight simulator and Roblox don't have storylines. I might as well be playing Solitaire.
Subnautica was developed as a non-violent alternative addressing gun-violence after Sandy Hook, so I'll give you this one even though it's Indie instead of premium and you do kill fish with a knife. Looks interesting especially if one can play it wearing a VR headset.
It took you forever to name one game. There should be many, many more. The irony is that there are people complaining about the game not being violent:
Critiques of Subnautica's non-violence regularly resurface in these forums. I guess that's understandable. The game mechanic of mass-murder is now so widespread that its absence can seem a little perverse or abnormal to traditional players. And I too have shouldered the burden of heavy weaponry when came to holding back the zombie apocalypse.
Don't worry though, a solution is at hand. Simply purchase any first person game on Steam at random, and roughly 95% of the time you'll get just the proven blood-soaked game mechanic you're hankering for.
of course, I, and 99.99999% of all gamers know the difference tween a game and real life.
doesn't make me any less trained to be trigger happy.
the point was, isn't there anything more fun than killing as a basis in the top 10 most played games, but you just want to argue instead of discuss like an adult so off you go.
Come on, now, this decade already has its own moral panic(s); let's not dredge this one up all the way back from the 90's, it was tiresome and pointless enough the first time around.
sharewith weekly school shootings now in the USA... you don't think this should be pondered?
shareAhh the old games equals violence arguement that has been debunked so many times.
If you really believe this then you need to just touch grass more.
If that was the case then why are 165 million poeple right now running round shooting each other and going to the streets.
That is how many copies of Grand Theft Auto 5 that were sold so far.
Computer games do not create violent people. Stop pushing lies and misinformation.
Did you also blame rock music and certian books in the 60's and 70's.
....it doesn't HELP.... :D
lets play as if MEDIA did have some effect. where would one look for that to be able to tell?
how about Columbine? NOOOOOOOO zero effect. oh wait....
I agree 100%. Part of the problem is lack of imagination in the video gaming industry. The other problem is their belief that violent games are what gamers want.
They could easily create premium games with interesting stories centered around solving mysteries, exploration, finding items or escape to name a few.
There could easily be adventures without the violence. Have well-developed characters, humor, suspense and some surprises, too.
They could easily create premium games with interesting stories centered around solving mysteries, exploration, finding items or escape to name a few.
There could easily be adventures without the violence. Have well-developed characters, humor, suspense and some surprises, too.
Can you name 2 or 3 premium games with a great story and characters and first rate graphics that don't involve killing?
shareOh so now we have moved the goal posts to premium games with specific attributes that you can refute because you have now designated the rules.
This will obvioulsy turn into a discussion where you say that isn't a premium game.
Premium games cost about $50.
shareNo they don't.
How to say you know nothing about computer games wihtout saying you know nothing about computer games.
The Top 4 in the list the OP posted are free to play and they are all premium games.
To put an arbitrary price on something and say it is premium is false and show how little you actually know.
The OP is correct. They are violent. They're not premium. The first game is only teams killing each other. No story. Crappy graphics for the fourth.
Meanwhile, you can't name a premium game that isn't violent.
They are violent. They're not premium.
You still can't name any.
sharesure, there are many different kinds of games....
I was specificially pointing to the metric found on STEAMCHARTS where it shows how many are playing right now: half a million in Counter Strike, 1/4 million PUBG etc etc nearly all the top ten are killing games, be it AI or each other.
My issue is, I wonder why we aren't drawn to something better? I mean, where's mega multiplayer Mario world live online? or SUPER TETRIS online competition? doesn't exist from the wolrds best selling games
Some games are better played alone while others are fun to play with friends online. The latter tend to be competitive, team-oriented and violent or sports.
Strategy games online would be good, but they tend to be best with two solo players against each other. The most popular is chess. I'm not sure Tetris would be interesting for group play.
Star Trek could've made an excellent non-violent online video game. Break off into teams and explore planets, go on diplomatic and rescue missions. Instead, they turned it into a typical unimaginative violent game. What a waste!
I read a long time ago that no new good games are being created now. They're just creating sequels.
I play GTA and many games in a similar way as you do. I play the single player storyline, but hangout and explore a lot. I have zip problem with the violence, but they could add some more variety.