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The two biggest lies about dating - “Girls just want a nice guy” and “girls LOVE older guys!”


Total bullshit

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Older guys? You said a while ago that you're in your mid-thirties. Are you hitting on teens or something? If so... eeeeewwww!

Because if you are, there are two things you should know: 1) the only people who believe that women like older guys are straight men, and 2) the only women who actually like significantly older men are the gold-diggers. And even they would prefer rich guys near their own age.

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Wow, I'm not a gold digger and I've always liked older men.

How about we stop with the generalizations and realize that they are harmful. Some women like older men, some women like younger men, some women like bad boys, some women like nice guys, some men like younger women, some men like older women, some men like the bad girl and some like the nice gal.

Everyone is different and has different tastes and turn ons. Stop putting everyone in the same baskets.

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Bullshit, most women most definitely do NOT like nice guys or men more than 2-3 years older than them.

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I said some women like older men, some like younger men. We all like different things in men.

I have said that I like older men. That's me personally. So that's not bullshit.

I don't know how many times you have to be told this by how many people but (let me Kowalski here)

IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU KEEP POSTING ABOUT YOU ARE NOT A NICE GUY!!!

I don't know what else to tell you but;

STOP FUCKING MAKING GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT WOMEN!!!!! JUST STOP!!!!

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I AM a nice guy, my generalizations are accurate. I have seen first hand women consistently pick complete assholes time after time and leave nice guys in the dust. Not just because these assholes were more attractive, either. A lot of times it makes no sense.

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Seriously, you are not.

You hate people. You have said this over and over again in your posts. You are unhappy with everything. This does not suggest that you are a nice guy.

You say that it's bullshit that women don't like older men, then you say that you are in your 30s trying to date a 21 year old?? What do you have in common with a 21 year old?

It has been suggested to you that you might not be looking at the right women. You refuse to take any advice about anything that doesn't already fit your view of the world and the people in it. Take a look around you next time you are in public at people who are happy together. What do they have that you don't?

Looks fade, money comes and goes, what really matters is what's inside. LISTEN to what the other posters who disagree with you are saying. Really listen. See what they are saying. Look at yourself. I've said this to you sooooooo freaking many times. You cannot change others. You can't. The only person you can change is yourself. If you aren't willing to do that, good luck. You may find someone who wants you just as you are, but I hope they are willing to put up with your misery.

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No, you arent a nice guy, you're a guy who has no grasp of what niceness actually IS.

FYI it doesnt mean spending money on some poor girl and acting fake-nice, and assuming that means she has to have sex with you.

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I AM a nice guy, my generalizations are accurate.

Therapy isn't working? 🙄

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Oh I know, but I'm trying to state things at a level Moviebuff might understand.

Not that he's interested in understanding anything about females who live outside his head.

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Sorry if I seemed rude, I just get really frustrated sometimes.

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THAT WAS AWESOME...I JUST READ THIS WHOLE THREAD...YOU WERE AMAZING!....WOW,LMAO.🙂

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No worries, you didnt say a thing that wasnt perfectly true.


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not that i'm the final authority on such matters, but i really don't think that's true.

lots of women fancy older guys.

in fact, according to this article, i'm at my peak of attractiveness!



- In the study, men’s desirability peaks at age 50. But women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan.


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/

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No I’m not hitting on teens, and it is most definitely not just straight men who perpetuate the longstanding myth that women lust after older men. I have had girls completely interested, ages 21-27 until they found out I was in my 30s.

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I don’t know about the gold digger thing. Some yes of course, but it’s pretty obvious when a girl wants to be a trophy chick. There are thousands of reasons why a younger female can be attracted to an older guy. Daddy issues is probably high up on the list. I think lots of women date older men because lots of dudes have Peter Pan syndrome and never grow up.

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What women want?

A man who is strong and tough but loves kittens. A man who can kill spiders but knit a tea cozy, a man who can build a house but also make a croissant from scratch, a man who is virile and horny but only when it suits her. A man who is rugged but a feminist. A man who is proud and fit but doesn't mind the woman being fat. A man who will let the woman do whatever she wants but isn't a doormat and so on.

In the end as long as the man is taller than herself he stands a good chance lol.

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So that why all those short guys have pissy attitudes! 😀

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I'm quite tall, it was just a joke really but yeah I have noticed that most women want a man taller than themselves and if you factor in high heels (if the woman likes to wear them) a man would have to be at least 5ft10 to make the grade and even then a lot of women are taller than that.

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I’m hoping this is sarcasm because if my man ever knits me a tea cozy then we’re gonna have some problems.😄

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What if he makes a tea cozy out of leather?

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😂I think he probably already did! Well a beer cozy anyway.

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🤣🤣

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I call bullshit on the fat thing. You can’t expect your man to be in top physical condition and you plan on letting yourself go. Pregnant fat excluded of course.

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I've known women who are just like that. They are overweight yet won't date over weight men themselves.

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I’ve seen that...

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That’s cus 2 fat people can’t fuck. Lol

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Oh shit I replied to your post because I thought you were female and being serious. Lololol I get it now!

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Yup, seen that! Or they don't own a car or even a driving license and, yet, won't date a guy who doesn't have his own ride (of course I see the (flawed and hypocritical) logic, they want a ride so they can use/abuse it whenever they want).

I've also heard women say that they don't care about the apparence, the shape, the wealth and what the guy possesses (his own house or his car). But then would constantly reject guys for those reasons and only date guys who are in great shape, have plenty of money, dressed expensively and own a lot of "interesting" and "useful" stuff (without saying that a house is not useful per say, just that it is still kinda shallow to require it). Okay if the said guys were all actually great people... but they were often assholes and, most of the tie, it didn't last long.

I once went on a date with a girl like that. On Tinder she would describe herself as open-minded, not shallow and not judging with the first impression. Yet, even though she was not exactly skinny and did own a car, she complained that I was a bit chubby (I used to be a bit overweight) and it was a "turn off that I didn't have a car" (I was woring on it). So, she told me that I didn't fit her criterias and unmatched me. I'm pretty sure that she didn't exacty give me the real reasons, at least, not all. But I guess her complaints still played for something.

Then again, I'm not mad or butthurt. I'm now in a fulfilling relationship and don't want nothing else (I already had y fair share of messed up relationships in the past). I simply remember how this dating game was confusing and, sometimes, irritating lol.

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Are you from the south? Serious question and I'm not implying anything negative.

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No haha, actually from the north... Canada! 😋 Why?

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I have only heard people from the south say "driving license", rather than "driver's license".

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They are hypocritical quite often. Something you see on dating sites is "If you message me don't just say hi in your message" yeah ok, I can see how that would be pointless but, when they message a guy what do they say? Yep, you get "hi". Most women have no idea at all how to engage a man in conversation, they send that first "hi" message and then they expect the guy to do all the work.

I also agree that most women want a man who is above their own quality level. It seems ok for women to want things in a man that they lack themselves, in other words they want the services or assets a man can provide. But watch out if a man says he wants a woman who can cook or clean!

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I don’t know, TPB, might be rare but I’ve known women who’ve expressed similar thoughts as Artisan suggested....strange but I’ve seen it happen...might have even happened to me; at my heaviest I was around 240 but at 6-2 I didn’t look too bad, but definitely wasn’t as healthy as I should’ve been...down between 200-210 now after incorporating an exercise routine and watching the food intake....but pizza and carne asada, man, that’s a toughie, still have to go there every now and then...who doesn’t love tacos, any kind of meat tacos, hell, fish tacos...and who can eat just one or two?...damn, now I’m hungry, hahahaha....get some!

Got off topic...again...damn... I really should stop contributing to this madness, but give buff credit for one thing: he brings all the cool kids together like you, FrogandToad, Miss sslssg, The Lacy LauraGracey, uncle shogie, COOL-WALSKI, Andy the King, otter, MrMojo, PjPurple and other MovieChat luminaries....sorry if I forgot anyone, I GOT LOVE FOR YOU ALL!...the real cool kids stay away and don’t feed this beast of a thread....but some of us just can’t resist...so I say: Get Some bey-beh!

Cheers!

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I’m....compelled.....to bump.....thread......

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Lmao I can eat 12 to 15 tacos no sweat. We do mexican food a lot here. Ya bro I thought artisan was female and telling us what women want. I was like wtf thats now fair. Haha morning tea didn’t kick in yet.

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Wait, artisan is not a female?...BwahHahahaha, my goodness, I was with you right there, brother!...damn....lmfaooo...

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Idk Im so confused. Wait maybe Im wrong.

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Lol, we’re so bad at this...maybe were those clueless guys some women refer to....we don’t even know who were chatting up...as long is it happens in a chat and not, you know, not in real life, that might get awkward....not that there’s anything wrong with that, whatever floats your balls, but I’m strictly into females, with traditional biological identifiers...I hate that I have to put that way....I like boobs , booty, and vag, okay, I’m not here to offend any of the fine and respectable ladies here at MC....lol...get some!

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whatever floats your balls

🤣🤣

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You know that hole your digging? I have a shovel I can lend you, lol.

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Lol,...I know, King, Im hoping to slink out of here with what was once known as my precious jewels intact...just give me a warning, Ak, if it looks like someone’s gonna get the drop on me...thanks

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Quick, I don’t think anyone noticed.

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Lol!

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down between 200-210 now after incorporating an exercise routine and watching the food intake....but pizza and carne asada, man, that’s a toughie, still have to go there every now and then...who doesn’t love tacos, any kind of meat tacos, hell, fish tacos...and who can eat just one or two?...damn, now I’m hungry, hahahaha....get some!

Lsten, I'm not a trainer nor a nutritionist, but I've often heard people who trained or and/or were on diets talk to me about a "cheat day". That means that it's the only day in the week when they would treat themselves with some junk food that they love.

Don't take my word for it, as I said I'm not a professional, but with some quick researches you can find information about it. If I understood well, basically it has to always be the same day in the week and you should stick to it and not making exceptions like "eating pizza on another day than the cheat day".

That way, you don't have to 100% give up on things that might not be good for the health/weight, but that you still love. One example that I can give you without thinking: go check Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's diet.

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Greetings, cat, pleasure...I found dropping 30-40 pounds to be somewhat challenging but not impossible...it just took a little planning and some discipline...and I feel fortunate it didn’t take that long....I lost 20 pounds in 3 months and the rest over another 3 or 4 months once i was healthy and fit enough to extend my exercises and go harder with some of the routines...when I hear maintaining weight is mostly about diet and eating habits, I believe it because I lived it and saw results...and yes, i know about ‘cheat’ days, but I skipped so many of those days that cravings were minimal...there were months I had as few as one ‘cheat’ day, maybe two...rarely did I have 4 or more ‘cheat’ days a month....admittedly when I finally got back down and leveled at around 200 even, the ‘cheat’ day became more steady, but I noticed and changed back to what I knew worked for me...and those days were mostly kept for saturday or Sunday...essentially, I know what works for me and try to keep to it...in fact, my two foods mentioned, pizza and tacos, I was just thinking today that I’ve had neither for over a month....so damn, thanks for reminding me, lol....

Out of sight, out of mind works well enough, so I feel if it’s not in the house I’m fine....before this lockdown I was closer to 200; during, closer to the 210 mark....my exercise is the same, but for obvious reasons, a little more sitting around doing nothing....well, if you count posting long diatribes on MC nothing, hahahaha...and yes, Pringles were on sale for a minute so there was that too, but that’s not really much of an issue...

Thanks for the info, stay safe and cheers!

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The two biggest lies about dating - “Girls just want a nice guy” and “girls LOVE older guys!”


SO...YOURE A 16 YEAR OLD WHO TORTURES SMALL ANIMALS?🙂

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You seriously did not think young women on average would prefer biologically worthless middle aged man over healthy virile young man? Porn and Hollywood is fantasy not reflection of reality.

Men who say "women don't want nice guys" are really just jerks who fake being nice.

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I never said anything about middle aged men. Girls in their early 20s will rarely date a guy over 26. It’s odd.

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You must have a small dick.

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🍿🍺👀

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I don't see problem with young women someone who wants young man who is in the same stage of life. Men need to stop listening to men groups who go on about young women liking men who are older. That's typically not the case. Most early twenties think men in their late twenties and thirties is old. Women want to grow old with partner. Not change his diaper when she is middle aged.

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Don’t tell the wife, I’m actually banking on this 🤫

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Moviebuff, where you been my whole life? I’ve been looking for a guy that really understands women, and it seems like you’ve got us all figured out.👍😂

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Do you like fixer uppers or guys that already have their shit together?

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Both types are tempting. The fixer uppers you get to fix in your own vision of course, on the other hand you get to change the ones who have their shit together even if it means wrecking them instead.

Either way, they get to change a man!

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Is that what woman want ultimately want, to change a man the way they see fit?

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So they say, that is why I call Meagan Markle the ultimate woman, she got a Prince and changed him into a commoner!

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I like guys that can make me laugh and have fun. I don’t have my shit together so I don’t expect them to either. I’m definitely not a fixer upper though. I think one of the best things you can do for your man is to accept him just as he is, and back him up. Too many girls emasculate their dudes and then complain they aren’t manly enough. I think it’s so important for us ladies to allow and encourage our boys to be the big strong men they are, flaws and all.

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I went through the whole SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy) thing in the 90's, I think it lasted a few years before women were screaming out for men who could fix things and be manly. It seems there is way too much emphasis on what women want and it is quite clear that many don't have a clue (or flat out lie) anyway.

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I’m saying, whether your man is sensitive or strong or fixes things doesn’t matter. He is the man you chose and it’s important to back him as your man. Even though his type may not be considered manly by societies standards, as a female it’s your job to make your man feel like the strongest and best man on the planet. I want my dude walking out the door with his head held high because he is confident in who he is as a man.

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You mean the way a relationship should be? Recently down here there was a woman who posted about how she packs her husband lunch and how it is healthier and cheaper than him buying it. There was of course an uproar from the Feminists, comments like "we have to feed them too now". All because of what is basically a loving act.

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I don’t know anything about feminism. My thing is respect. Having a vagina doesn’t give a man the right to slap my ass, or treat me like a whore, or talk down to me.
Packing your man’s lunch is a way of showing you love him. Why be in a relationship if you both aren’t taking care of each other?
Just my opinion, but there are many people out there choosing the wrong battles. “I’m a woman and I refuse to pack your lunch because I don’t have to!” Stupid. So you’re proving that you’re a bitch? Good job.

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Feminism has created situation where the majority of women just aren't desirable. I am a lover of old films and the way men and women used to be back then and towards each other seemed so much better than what it is like now.

I agree, the idea that someone has to be a "bitch" to prove they are strong is bullshit.

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Are there really that many feminists out there? I’ve never met one. A woman’s purpose is not to be desired by men. I’m not sure if this is old fashioned, but I do believe men should be the protectors and providers (if they have kids), and women are naturally maternal for a reason. Someone told me once to let the man be the rooster, let him stand out front and be loud, colorful and showy. The woman is to back him and let him shine, but at the end of the day the rooster lets his woman make the decisions because ya know, he’s a rooster. I loved that advice and I agree. John Adams and his wife Abigail are a shining example of that.
I disagree about the bitch thing. Being a bitch is one of women’s greatest strengths. I’ve taught many lessons by being a bitch. I’m just not gonna be a bitch over something irrelevant like packing my man’s lunch.

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I’m cooler than the average feminist? I’m gonna need you to do better than that.😁

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Aww thanks sweetpea! I was kinda kidding, but I’ll take it! I think you’re pretty dope yourself. I enjoy having you around.😊

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I've run into plenty. The problem is even if a woman says she is more traditional, if a man marries her and then at some point she decides she wants a divorce she will still take full advantage of Feminism and divorce rape him.

That is the underlying thing here, a woman will play both sides of the coin, wanting the benefits of feminism when it suits her than screaming "women and children first!!" if the ship is sinking.

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I’m not a fan of most groups of people with a cause. If you believe strongly in something, why do you need people to back you? If you don’t have beliefs then you’re just going along. It’s my opinion that people need to think for themselves and lead by example. I hear many times on here “this percentage of the population believes blah, blah.” As if that means it’s right. History will tell you that many times majority is not right. The biker clubs? The worst! If you want to ride with a group of your friends cool, but y’all grown men. Why do you need a clubhouse? Why you walking around like you’re tough when you got 10 friends to back you? Frats, religions, skinheads...
I guess I’m saying this woman should be judged by her own actions. We all should be.
Kinda went on a rant there about something completely different but whatever.

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The more rebellious or on the fringe a group thinks or says they are the more regulations and rules they tend to have in my observation. Feminism is a good example, they say it is about more freedom for women but as with the previous post about the woman packing lunch for her husband she is howled down, if that is her choice what is the issue?

All these groups want their members to conform I agree.

Also in regards to these people with a cause they tend to become what they profess to hate.

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For sure. I think because many people join to belong to something, not because they have strong beliefs. Question for you. Are there groups of feminists or is it just a belief that individual women have?

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I think there is a "feminist group" or groups of them which tend to be Left or Radical left yes. And there may also be individuals with their own spin on it.

The experience I think of the most is a chat I had with a Feminist in her late 20's she was Anglo Australian, a perpetual student, one of these types who does useless degree after useless degree.

She said the world is easy for me because I am a middle aged white man in a world that loves middle aged white men. What she didn't know is that I am first generation born Australian, non English speaking background, working class. I worked my way up into management positions.

She was making all these assumptions and yet was ignorant to the fact that her Anglo background, wealthy parents and Left wing politics was a sign of her privilege. And of course my taxes pay for her education lol.

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I’m probably gonna get fired from my gender for asking a boy about feminism. It sounds like you don’t know any more than I do about it. I hate when people make assumptions about me. None of the things she said had to do with being a feminist though.

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She identified as a Feminist so that is all I can go on. It's not up to me to sort who is the "real deal". If someone says they are Santa Claus then hides all the chocolate from the kiddies, I am going to walk away saying "Santa Claus is a bastard".

If you get what I am trying to say here?

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I’m Pam Poovey, but I didn’t eat the chocolate.

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The biker clubs? The worst! If you want to ride with a group of your friends cool, but y’all grown men. Why do you need a clubhouse? Why you walking around like you’re tough when you got 10 friends to back you? Frats, religions, skinheads...


^^^This^^^

I kinda like the sentiment of the words of a Pantera song:

Be yourself
By yourself
Stay away from me

I'm not a misanthrope but I don't enjoy or require the company of a lot of people. I don't hate of even dislike them. I just find no connection. I have no interest in superficiality.

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Superficiality isn’t something I relate with. I don’t get dressing or acting a certain way for the approval of other people. Why care? I enjoy my friends a lot, but the most important thing is that I can stand alonebe proud , and handle myself.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOA0xxhliHE

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I'm the same. My circle of friends is small and real.

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👍That’s all you need.

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I hff have to ask... does your dude return the favor, and send you out the door with your head held high because you feel confident and secure?

If so, keep him!

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Absolutely not! He knows better than to try and send me out the door😁
He’s awesome Otter. I’m pretty confident, but I can be a handful. There might have been a few times I’ve gotten a bit rowdy, and he just tosses me over his shoulder and says time to go. That’s hot.
He’s really good to me and he’s a chef so bonus! A keeper indeed. I won’t even mention his other fine attribute(s).😉

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LOL!! Lies?? Really for sure?? Huh?

How about lies boys tell women? Get a boner,tell a woman it is sure sigh of pure love for her, and how about in 1960s,tell women you believe in free love or use the word, " love" for sex like Let's make love.... bullshit.


Save it for gullible 18 year old young ladies or get them for yourself.

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Wow some real anger there. Wasn't free love a feminist thing anyway?

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I’d like to believe most women see right through that shit. I’m a big fan of men, not trying to be insulting, but guys are pretty clueless about us. No reason to be mad, just tell the dumbass he’s got no game and you see through his bullshit. Situation handled.
Guys want pussy and will say and do many things to get it. They’re guys. It’s our job to not believe every idiot that comes along and compliments us.

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You sound perfect on paper. Girls always trynna take the savage out of me.

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Thanks for saying that, but I’m so far from perfect. Anyway, perfect is boring. I would bet your savage is one of the best parts of you. Wait for the girl that is all about it. Wait for the girl that is all about you because of who you are. Fuck a bitch that doesn’t appreciate that shit.

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You got Bonnie n Clyde me n you against the world attitude. That’s perfect to me or at least 90%. Wish I could smell your smell to see if you deserve the other 10.

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I smell like riots, dumpster babies, and tic-tacs.

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You were in the streets protesting?

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No sweetie I was kidding. 😂
Funny you’d ask about the riots but not the dumpster babies? I’m in Montana. There were some small protests here but they seemed kinda dumb. We thought about tailgating the protests here but decided against it.

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I did want to say something about the babies but I didn’t want to step on any toes. Your mind is as sick as mine I think.


I just did 5 edits here. Drank with the dishwashers tonight.

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😂You didn’t want to step on any toes. Too funny and kinda sweet in a really fucked up way. Oh kid, I’m not right. My humor is often misunderstood.
You work in a restaurant? The dishwashers are always the ones that know how to throw down. Hope it was fun!

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Yes ma’am. I’m the head chef half owner of a restaurant. It’s why I’m always working. 6 days a week 12 or more hour shifts. I be puttin in that work.

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Good for you, that’s awesome! What’s your best dish? I’ve worked many restaurants. The kitchen can be crazy but usually the people are cool.
Don’t ma’am me! I’ll let it slide this time😉
Head chef/half owner is a huge deal! 👍

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I studied/graduated Le Cordon Bleu only to be dogged by chefs who think they are Gordon Ramsay. A high end chef took me under his wing and we had a huge falling out. He said I would never make it in this business with my attitude unless I owned my own restaurant. So that’s what I did lol had help as far as investors go and have a partner. We’ve had our ups n downs but eventually got a system going that works flawlessly. 10 years later, here we are.

As for my best dish. I kinda hate this question because all my dishes are cooked with love and precision. I do have a huge passion for cooking Mexican food though. I had to learn the language so I was like might as well learn the cooking too.

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Heard. All my dishes are good bitch! That’s super impressive you just went for it. I’ve had kitchen managers before that think they’re Gordon Ramsey. Good on you my dude.

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That’s something to be so proud of. That’s a whole lotta hard work. It’s awesome you have such a passion for it.

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Ty slimer 😁 haha jk. Btw you inspired me today to create something fun since I couldn’t give you an answer to what’s my best dish. Ill post a pic in few.

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Yeah? I inspired you? Thanks, that makes me feel good. Where’s my pic of this fabulous dish, I want to see it!

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good morning. The girls were hungry so I made them a kind of exspensive appetizer. Lobster asiago cheese fries with a truffle aioli.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vaqzfpbjl6lekgj/20170315_192041.jpg?dl=0

For myself I made a steak n egg sandwich on sourdough with avocado and sriracha aioli. Nothing fancy here but dayum those knife skills!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/63zq9rjbwt8w7bs/20170701_142228_1499314181049.jpeg?dl=0

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Both of those look amazing but damn that egg sandwich though! I’m gonna need you to make me one immediately!

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Lol thx and anytime! Come to the Chi and your bill is on me. Leave your man at home, you won’t be needing him.

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😆Thanks! He’s in the doghouse right now anyway.

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Btw you’re never suppose to mix cheese and seafood but I’m a rebel. Lol

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Hey! MacDonalds does, with their Filet o' Fish!!! Oh... wait.. that's not seafood.... or cheese........ or food, come to think of it..

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I’ve heard that argument so many times in culinary school. You actually bring up a good point. That shit isn’t food. Also Micky Ds has been known to use the deep fry oil with concrete particles in it because it’s cheaper.

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I never touch it!

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...and if I may say, I think your humor is fantastic. If she doesn’t get your humor, tell that bitch to get to steppin.

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Mom, that you?

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😁I have mostly guy friends and I give this advice pretty often. It doesn’t work. They say “I met an awesome girl, you gotta meet her.” and then bring over methy mcgee or trampy Tina, or giggling Greta...
It’s like dude, methy mcgee stole your car and you’re astonished? What did you think would happen??

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I've pondered this many times myself. I know not to feed trolls, but I also cannot ignore posts like this just incase.

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That’s my thing, I don’t need help feeling like an idiot, so I try not to feed any potential trolls... but I seem to remember he wasn’t always like this, we actually talked about movies and tv shows and stuff....don’t know what changed, not necessarily inclined to find out so I give him space and let everyone else deal with it....but, damn, the women just fucking slay him here, and he’s just not discouraged, just gets up and keeps going...

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I dont dislike him. We've had some interesting conversations about other topics. I don't want to slay him, I honestly wanted to help him the first couple of times he posted like this. I think I still do. I don't want him to hurt himself or anyone else.

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Me neither...but he does say some crazy and incendiary shyt, and at this point I just don’t know if he hears anything from the people who seem to want to help with some advice, you among them, which is very kind....you’re a sweetheart...

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😊

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Girl right? I think of him as the annoying little brother that you gotta rough up a bit but yeah, I’d love someone’s words to sink in one day. I’ll keep trying too. Unless he pisses me off, and then I’ll slay him. He seems harmless, just clueless.

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What girls “slay” me here? 😂

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Bro, you get cuffed and beaten every time you post a 'Chicks be cray!' OP

Everyone seems to like your cooking and kitchen hints posts...
Stick to that bud, they go over really well👍

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Yoyo my bro thx for the congrats and heads up. TBH I already know this fool’s motives. He is a bored little troll. Shit he can even be someone’s sock. I actually do have someone in mind but I don’t want to falsely accuse anyone. This topic is actually an oldie but goodie. I did a mocuthread on this once.

https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5e0a0300dcc4ab665418d899/One-girlone-hotel-roomone-nice-guy

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Wow, I remember that thread, but back then I didn’t pay as close attention to the names/handles of MC posters....good work, sir!.....get some!

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Do you even know the definition of a troll??

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I didn’t mean to engage you, but, yes, I have an idea what are considered characteristics of a troll, besides just the mythical cave-dweller...good day sir....Get Some bey-beh!

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To be honest: he reminds me more of the user Doggydaddy (or something like that, the guy constantly making post to bash Trump). It's not really a troll, it more like a person who only seem to be stock on ONE subject and seems to have a compulsive urge to make thousands of posts about the subject.

Likewise, MovieBuff seems to enjoy posting things to "bash" women and complain about how dating them is hard and how they are unfair. I actually don't disagree with EVERYTHING he says... but I mention it once and it's enough for me.

Now, I don't mean to insult them or anything. I am the kind to be able to simply ignore if something annoys me. If it makes them happy to constantly posts about the same things, it's their business.

*EDIT*: Now I briefly looked at MovieBuff's posts and I might hav confused him with someone else. Sorry, my bad if it's the case.

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This? https://youtu.be/9Vtz9wFeO2c

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No, I’m not a troll. Do you know the definition of a troll?

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In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, either for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

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DING DING DING DING!....step up pretty lady ssl and claim your prize! Have some of our finest meats and cheese! Or we have a nice vegan spread if you wish! Get some!....


Good times!

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Hmmmmm... are you my girlfriend by any chance? XD Joking! But being serious: my girlfriend actually thinks like you. I looked for her my whole life and now that I have the jackpot (after MANY failed relationships/flirts/one night stands (from which I often wanted more)). Believe, I won't let her go lol.

Sincere compliment for you: believe me, the guy who will have you in his life will be a lucky guy. He would be a fool to let you go. 😉

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Let me tell you something. If a girl doesn't want a nice guy, she has to be stupid or not a nice person herself.

And as for the age thing, there are women in their 30s out there. Take a chance with them instead.

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Let me tell you something. As a female to generalize other females like that, you must be stupid and rude as fuck. You have no clue why women choose the men they do.


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Oy... I thought I was defending women against the stereotype, that we all want "bad boys".

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I gotcha. I’m saying you don’t know people’s stories. I’m not a psychologist so I don’t want to try and sound like one, but there could be many reasons women are drawn to “bad boys”. Family upbringing, abuse, low self esteem...
To just assume they’re stupid or bad people just isn’t fair, or defending women.

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You do have a point, actually. But I was too eager to disprove the "all the girls want bad boys" stereotype, that I came across as too brash.

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Let me tell you something, women generalize men WAY more with their constant bitching on social media about how all men are trash and how there are no good men left and complaining about being single blah blah meanwhile hundreds of guys lined out the door to treat them like queens it’s pretty much bullshit. THEY are the ones who are stupid as fuck.

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Look, I'm going to be blunt here, and say that you are actually starting to scare me. I know that I don't know you really, but just a brief look at the last 20 days of your posts and I stopped counting at 10 posts where you are complaining about people. Not all of those posts are about women, but they are still putting up some real red flags about you.

Again, I know this is the internet and people complain about others. And watch cat videos. BUT.....

Looking back at your posting history shows a scary pattern. You constantly blame others for EVERYTHING that is wrong in your life, with an emphasis on women. I know that not all your posts are about women, but a good number are. I really, honestly hope that you can get some help. I'm sorry that you are not happy. I really am, but being this angry will not help you. Why do you even want to be with women when we piss you off so much? Go get some therapy. Talk to someone who can help you deal with these feelings you are having.

Red flags. You are waving plenty.

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Handled that. I’m still drinking my coffee and smoking my morning herbals, I’m just not ready to tear into anyone yet. Thanks girl👍😎

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I don't want to tear into anyone. I really don't, but I do mean what I said.

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IN THE LAST 12 HOURS OR SO YOU HAVE QUICKLY RISEN TO ONE OF MY FAVORITE POSTERS🙂

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She is tops👍

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No, I would have. That’s why I appreciate you handling it. Staying on the topic kind of, this is the reason men often say they can’t find the right woman. They are always distracted by the shiny things. I’m glad these boys are finally appreciating your coolness, it’s about fucking time!!

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I appreciate the compliments, but I'm trying not to get distracted by shiny things either. 😊 I'm honestly worried about moviebuff.

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He’ll be a’ight. He just needs to get back to cooking his meats.

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I don't totally disagree with you... there is indeed some issues and people do have a share of responsibility if they simply decide to reject everyone because it they look for that "flawless special someone". But 1) it applies to men as well (we can indeed argue that women tend to be more picky); 2) they are not "stupid as fuck"... there's simply some lack judgment; 3) just because a guy will treat a girl like a queen doesn't automatically make him a good match. If it doesn't click, you can't force it simply because you are a good person.

That being said: I will give you that complaining is useless and can be annoying if you are responsible for your own situation. I will also give you that generalizing that all men are "assholes" , or, in men's case, all women are "crazy bitches" is uncalled for if a person willingly decides to date only those kinds.

Afterall, I've known a girl who was in an abusive relationship and despite the fact that WE all tried to help and that she eventually left the guy only to go back with him. She would then complain that men are all "abusive assholes"... 🙄

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If a girl doesn't want a nice guy, she has to be stupid or not a nice person herself.

Agreed, even though I wouldn't generalize and call them "bad" or stupid. However, it does show a bit of a lack of judgment, but there can be many factors which explain everything. Nothing is black or white.

As long as they don't complain that all men are assholes like I heard some do. And, please, if someone gives you good advices and you deliberately ignore them and do as you pleased, don't go back crying when it turns out the person was right (this applies to both men and women because I've seen it with both).

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Well, I had to eat crow about that one already.

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Girls like older guys...if they can get it up.

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I’m a fairly nice guy and my wife is 8 years younger than me. So...ummm.....so there!

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PERVERT🙄

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She's only 4'11" and still gets asked for ID in pubs and clubs, lol.

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I once dated a guy for several years who really took that whole "girls want guys who make them laugh" thing very seriously. Drove me crazy. It was one of the reasons I dumped him!

Sure I like to laugh. I've had friends both male and female who are funny and quick-witted. This poor guy was neither.

Some people are simply NOT funny and this guy was so incredibly unfunny that his endless "witticisms" and puns were actually painful. When I didn't laugh at his comments, he'd tell me it was "just a joke".

Once I told him that if it was a joke, somebody should've been laughing. He didn't understand what I was saying.

So guys, if you keep making "funny" remarks and the woman you are dating meets them with stone faced silence, take the hint! You are not funny. I don't need a guy to make me laugh, but I do need him not to p#ss me off with lame, juvenile humor.

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You guy's attempts to.get a woman through being funny, sound about as successful as Moviebuff's attempts to be nice.

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I’m one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. It’s been my downfall, I’m too nice.

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Oh bull, you aren't nice. And take it from a complete bitch who knows not-nice!

Nice people are genuinely concerned with others, they want to make other people happy. But you have consistently shown the personality of someone who's selfish and couldn't care less about the feelings of others, and who's always angry because other people aren't behaving the way you want them to. You have no concern for other people's feelings, no understanding that other people have feelings that are different than yours, and no respect for their right to make their own decisions.

Face it, Moviebuff, you're a dick... but you don't have the nerve to just go ahead and be one of the bad boys.

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PS: I told you I wasn't nice.

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I have plenty of concern for other people’s feelings. If by getting mad when people aren’t “behaving” the “way I want them to” you mean being rude assholes, then yes I do that and no it does not have anything to do with my character or selfishness nor does it make me an asshole, rather it makes them assholes. I get that this doesn’t fit your narrative and I’m sorry.

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Dude, you're constantly whining "BUT I DID THIS AND I DID THAT AND THE GIRLS STILL AREN'T HAVING SEX WITH ME!". That is what I'm referring to when I say that you're always angry that other people are doing what *they* want, instead of what *you* want.

Because yes, girls and women are people, they're individuals with their own feelings and likes and dislikes, and not some video game where you have to click on all the right buttons to get the response you want and win the game.

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No you’re not you were referring to the majority of my posts about the general public’s obnoxious behavior on a daily basis, nice try though. And yes, since you mentioned it I do expect women to be honest so when they say they want a nice guy and doors held flowers blah blah I expect them to mean it. If they’re not attracted to you that’s one thing but when there’s a mutual attraction and they flake as they catch on that you’re not a big enough asshole, I absolutely will take issue especially when they then turn around and complain that there are no genuinely good guys out there. Most guys realize in reality that being “nice” and polite, even when it’s genuine just gets you walked all over.

And no I’m not talking about being a pushover, just not being an asshole who keeps them on their toes. It really all comes back to men wanting sex way more, women will always have too many options and an extremely inflated sense of self worth, and therefore only genuinely attracted to guys who don’t want them.

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Oh yes, someone who complains about all women having an "extremely inflated sense of self worth" is … nice.

Trolling you was fun for a while, but that's the limit. I give up.

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Sorry, ignoring all of my well articulated and valid points with a lazy condescending brush off and dismissing me as a “troll” (whatever the fuck that means) does not make you any less obtuse and willfully ignorant.

You either A) have at this point accepted defeat and have no response or B) live in some fantasy world where you really think it’s acceptable to be selective with your gender politics and custom fit every argument and talking point to fit your narrative. Either way you know I’m right, and if you don’t then you’ve got much bigger problems.

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"Other people's happiness and self-confidence is mildly inconvenient to me! I wish it would just go away! And that makes me a nice person."

Dude, that's actually what you're saying.

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Otter, I like you and all, but you sound way too confident, and your response is far too accurate. You need to put your self-worth in check girl. 😄
Work on developing a low self-esteem, hide your intelligence, and lower your standards so the moviebuffs of the world can feel validated as men.

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Lol get out of here, how did you manage to get all of that out w your mouth packed that full of her?

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The same way you do with all that man meat you like to suck down your throat.

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Said by a "nice guy". /thread

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You really think that holding doors and flowers makes you a nice person?? Do you have any idea what nice is?? I'm sure nice can mean different thing for different people, but seriously, who are all these women that you keep trying to impress that want an asshole??

Please explain what you are doing that you think is "nice". I'm asking because I'd really like to help you here. What sort of woman are you looking for? Are you just looking for a quick lay? Are you looking for long term?

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Of course empty gestures and things people do because they are expected to do them or social norms do not make someone “nice.” But girls act like all they want is for some guy to come along and do all of these things and they will be content, which is obviously total bullshit.

I think being nice means being polite, well mannered, considerate of others to a point and most importantly good hearted. I am a good hearted person, I know this because I feel guilty when I do something wrong no matter who it is to or how badly they’ve treated me. I can’t help this, it is how I am wired. Girls are simply not attracted to guys like this, they perceive them as weak and effeminate and will step over them to get to a guy they perceive to be a challenge. Just the way it is, and I can accept biological instincts and human nature but I can’t accept this bullshit narrative that every girl has of simply wanting a good guy, when it’s abundantly clear to anyone who’s not a fucking idiot that this simply isn’t true.

So if you’re really “trying to help me” (which I don’t think is true, just an attempt to appear virtuous and dignified in your assault on my valid point) open your eyes and look at women’s behavior, not what you think happens or should happen.

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So again, I'm just going to point this out. Many women on here have mentioned what they want, many men on here have commented as well. You ignore ALL OF IT, to keep saying it's the way it is.

Simply. It's not. I think you spend a lot of time on social media following women who are in a similar situation to you. You are too busy blaming the other sex for their short comings instead of reevaluating what it is that you want and you are looking for. Stay away from instagram. There is nothing real on instagram.

What are your hobbies? You've mentioned that you have kayaks. Is there a club in your area? Finding someone who you have something in common with will really help. Look for someone who you can be attracted to, but that if you went months without having sex, it wouldn't be a huge deal, because at some point, it's going to happen.

Stop trying to be what you think that these women want you to be. Most women can spot an act. I think a lot of men can too. Be genuine. Stop looking to put people in boxes. Not all girls are ____________. Not all guys are _____________. STOP. I cannot stress this enough.

Your frustrations show through on most things that you post. Do you think that it doesn't show in real life??

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I'm also going to touch on girls act like all they want is for some guy to come along and do all of these things and they will be content, which is obviously total bullshit.


That is total bullshit, but that's bullshit on your end. You get a bunch of girls together and you ask them what they want in man, and they are all going to have a different answer. You are correct that a lot of women don't want a doormat. I don't think that that's what men want either. I'm not going to speculate what women want in a man because I think that it would probably be very different from what I want.

NOT ALL GIRLS WANT THE SAME THING. IF YOU KEEP ENDING UP WITH WOMEN WHO ARE THE SAME AND WHO ARE PRETENDING TO WANT SOMETHING AND THEN NOT, CHANGE WHO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

So, my advice is to stop going into relationship situations thinking that all women want the same thing.

You say that you are a good hearted person, but I have to mention your posts where you are always complaining about others. I'm not the only one that has brought this up. If I were on a date with you and you started bitching about your work, or the waitstaff, or really anything, I'd be out of there.

I also really am insulted that you think that I'm just trying to appear virtuous. Trust me. I wouldn't waste this much time and effort trying to look good to other posters here. I've been here since the beginning, and I am who I am, and I don't care if I'm popular here or not. The fact that you are disregarding EVERYTHING that I have said to you because you are stuck on only your point being valid, doesn't help your attempt at convincing me that you are a nice person. I've not said that there aren't girls out there like you've described, I'm trying to tell you to go for a different type of girl.

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No, he doesnt have any idea what niceness actually is, and is completely resistant to the idea that women vary, and that he needs to deal with them as iindividuals. What he really wants is someone to give him some magic cue that will cause all women to want sex with him.

This has been made clear over months of years, which is why so many people are just havng fun at his expense and not trying to help. You can't help those who are unwilling to be helped.

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Maybe we should all club together and buy him a sexbot?

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If we did, he's complain that it wasn't being nice enough to him, because he's a nice guy and goddammit nice guys deserve to be treated nicely and who the hell does this robot think she is being so quiet and confident all the time!! ROBOTS SUCK, ALL FEMALES SUCK, EVEN THE MECHANICAL ONES DESIGNED BY MEN!!

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Well, he is the nicest guy he knows, so....

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He works at the post office. He might be right about that, for once.

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To be honest, the fact that you call women "stupid" because they don't want "nice guys" (like you, if I understand correctly) kinda proves that you actually aren't.

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