>I don't know what that is but based on the pride flag and the crescent moon, no I don't like it.
Does you not liking it mean it should be banned?
>Regarding degeneracy, we've been through this before and I don't feel like going through it again. You know what I mean by degeneracy, and if you don't remember, you could figure it out based on the context.
It's a definition you cannot back up. It's completely subjective.
>Ok, if you think that the U.S. was a totalitarian state 50 years ago because it outlawed homosexuality and miscegenation, then I support a totalitarian state, if this is what you mean by a totalitarian state.
So, what, you want to implement sodomy laws do you? And a public ban on any and all expression of LGBT activity in public life? Holding hands? Kissing? Just saying "here's my partner"?
>Things were certainly better back then. At least better for the people who matter.
And why don't other people matter? Also, on what metric are you claiming things were better?
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
> Does you not liking it mean it should be banned?
No.
> It's a definition you cannot back up. It's completely subjective.
I can, but I don't want to. But it doesn't matter as long as you know what I'm referring to and I think you do.
>So, what, you want to implement sodomy laws do you? And a public ban on any and all expression of LGBT activity in public life? Holding hands? Kissing? Just saying "here's my partner"?
I don't know about all of that, but some of those seem like a good idea.
>And why don't other people matter? Also, on what metric are you claiming things were better?
Degenerates don't matter, or at least they shouldn't. The preferences of normal people should always come before the preferences of sexual and racial minorities.
Things were better for normal people. Straight White people. They were better because society was setup to work in their interests to the exclusion of everyone else, now it is the opposite, it can't benefit normal people unless it also benefits minorities.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>No.
Should it be banned though?
>I can, but I don't want to. But it doesn't matter as long as you know what I'm referring to and I think you do.
No, you already tried it and failed miserably. You're simply referring to LGBT stuff. Doesn't mean your definition of "degenerate" is meaningful. It's just a shorthand for "ew LGBT stuff me no like".
>I don't know about all of that, but some of those seem like a good idea.
What ones?
>Degenerates don't matter, or at least they shouldn't.
By "degenerates" do you just mean, again, "LGBT people"?
> The preferences of normal people should always come before the preferences of sexual and racial minorities.
What preferences of straight people are being taken away from them?
>Things were better for normal people. Straight White people. They were better because society was setup to work in their interests to the exclusion of everyone else, now it is the opposite, it can't benefit normal people unless it also benefits minorities.
That's not an answer of how things were better. That's just a restatement.
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>Should it be banned though?
No it should not be banned.
>What ones?
The "public ban on any and all expression of LGBT activity in public life"
I like this one. I don't know how it would work in practice, but I like it.
> By "degenerates" do you just mean, again, "LGBT people"?
For the most part yes. But the term is a little broader than that and also refers to anyone who doesn't conform to traditional gender norms and cultural practices.
> What preferences of straight people are being taken away from them?
I meant that the interests of straight White people should be the primary concern of a society not the interests of sexual and racial minorities. They come second or not at all.
> That's not an answer of how things were better. That's just a restatement.
It was a better vibe :)
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>No it should not be banned.
Why not? Is it not pro-LGBT aesthetics to you?
>I like this one. I don't know how it would work in practice, but I like it.
How is that album on bandcamp, publicly visible, not a part of public life?
>For the most part yes. But the term is a little broader than that and also refers to anyone who doesn't conform to traditional gender norms and cultural practices.
So non-feminine women are bad? Is it wrong if a woman is in a metal band? That's "degenerate"? Or has short hair?
What cultural practices must someone who lives in the USA partake in to not be "degenerate"?
>I meant that the interests of straight White people should be the primary concern of a society not the interests of sexual and racial minorities. They come second or not at all.
How does the interests, or well-being (lets say) of LGBT people or non-white people somehow inherently conflict with the interests of white people?
>It was a better vibe :)
So you have no evidence whatsoever for your claim.
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
> That's not an answer of how things were better. That's just a restatement.
Yeah, but banning it seems like going to far.
> How is that album on bandcamp, publicly visible, not a part of public life?
Well I was thinking more like hanging pride flags in public spaces. It would not apply to an album cover being sold in a shop.
>So non-feminine women are bad? Is it wrong if a woman is in a metal band? That's "degenerate"? Or has short hair?
Nah, a woman could be in a metal band, but if she has short hair, then she is likely a degenerate.
> So you have no evidence whatsoever for your claim.
No just vibes. And that's good enough.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>Yeah, but banning it seems like going to far.
You have said that LGBT content should be banned repeatedly. Your position is all over the place.
>Well I was thinking more like hanging pride flags in public spaces. It would not apply to an album cover being sold in a shop.
There's more to LGBT expressionism than that. Violet Cold is not a big project, but there are larger pro-LGBT artists who get radioplay and public notability.
>Nah, a woman could be in a metal band, but if she has short hair, then she is likely a degenerate.
Based on what? Should anything happen to women with short hair?
And why can a woman be in a metal band by your logic?
>No just vibes. And that's good enough.
Why is it good enough? Why should policy be constructed on your feelings?
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>You have said that LGBT content should be banned repeatedly. Your position is all over the place.
I don't have a set position. My views are evolving. I haven't taken the time to hash everything out yet.
>Why is it good enough? Why should policy be constructed on your feelings?
It just is. It's all about feelings.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>I don't have a set position. My views are evolving. I haven't taken the time to hash everything out yet.
Your views flip flop within actual discussions.
>It just is. It's all about feelings.
You sound like the stereotype wokester when you say that.
Why should anyone else give a fuck about your feelings?
And I notice you ignored my other questions.
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>Your views flip flop within actual discussions.
Not really. It just seems that way because I'm still exploring these positions and working out how I feel about them.
> And I notice you ignored my other questions.
Yeah, to answer them properly would require a whole long discussion and I'm not in the mood to get into all of that today.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>Not really. It just seems that way because I'm still exploring these positions and working out how I feel about them.
You're apparently "exploring" them in real-time.
>Yeah, to answer them properly would require a whole long discussion and I'm not in the mood to get into all of that today.
When you say that women with short hair are 'degenerate', do you realise that you genuinely come across as an old housewife from the 1950s?
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>You're apparently "exploring" them in real-time.
Yes, some of them. I like to explore them through dialog.
>When you say that women with short hair are 'degenerate', do you realise that you genuinely come across as an old housewife from the 1950s?
I didn't realize that, but that's funny.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>Yes, some of them. I like to explore them through dialog.
So you flip-flop within posts between claiming that LGBT content should be banned but then said it shouldn't.
Also, I asked: Why should anyone else give a fuck about your feelings? You are definitely what I would regard as part of the new 'woke right' that seems to be emerging.
>I didn't realize that, but that's funny.
It's true. You seem to be a social prude. Do you cry about satanism and the occult in media too?
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>So you flip-flop within posts between claiming that LGBT content should be banned but then said it shouldn't.
That's not what happened.
>It's true. You seem to be a social prude. Do you cry about satanism and the occult in media too?
Not yet. But I'll get there.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>That's not what happened.
So should LGBT content be banned or not?
>Not yet. But I'll get there.
Why?
I also want to know why other people should remotely care what you think.
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curiousMInd101 (4674)
7 months ago
>So should LGBT content be banned or not?
No, I don't think it should be banned. But it should be frowned upon.
>I also want to know why other people should remotely care what you think.
Why not? I'm based.
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Skavau (15993)
7 months ago
>No, I don't think it should be banned. But it should be frowned upon.
That's up to individuals. You can't make other people care, or stop liking it.
>Why not? I'm based.
No, you come across as a really out-of-touch old woman.
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