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Whitewashing in film.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film

Watch the ignorant folks on here will have no retort but to insult me for posting this. Yet they are free to complain when it is done to them.

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And these days it’s blackwashing. Same offense.

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So then anytime a whitewash occurs we have a right to complain as well. So then we have the right to be upset about Tiger Lily in Pan correct?

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Why complain about something that happened decades ago? Let’s focus on stopping whitewashing and black(or other PoC)washing going forward.

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Which is why I also brought up Pan. How about not caring so long as the race isn't essential to the character?

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The question is why do it? Where’s the logic in swapping race/gender/sexuality when it then appeals to a much smaller audience? And “why not?” isn’t a legitimate answer.

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Because an actress or actor auditioning for the role might have a better audition for that specific role. You get a wider variety of talent by opening it up.

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They don’t hire based on “better auditions” anymore. Or most talented.

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No proof of that. There are plenty of times they hire based on talent.

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I was being cynical.

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WTF is “white washing”? I thought based on the response to the Little Mermaid that race swapping was a good thing? Or that we are just supposed to “get over it”.

Libtard Logic:
- Replacing a minority actor with a white actor = racist
- Disagreeing with replacing a white actor with a minority actor = racist

Stupid libtard virtue signaler.

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Race (as well as gender or sexuality) swapping is not a “good” thing because it serves no purpose.

If you want diversity, make films and shows with original diverse characters. Don’t remake a previous film/show and race/gender/sexuality-swap straight white characters.

Studios do that because films/shows focusing on diverse characters have historically low viewership because few people want to see them.

So studios swap white characters in popular films/shows hoping the popularity of the original — and the resulting publicity when the massive backlash hits — will pump up ticket sales. It never does.

The swapping is an obvious sign that studios have no creative talent and don’t care about the original source material or the fans. And they’re tired of losing money on original diverse projects.

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Nope the year one comic of Batman says hi. Selina Kyle was not white in that comic book. So who decides what comic is canon? That's the beautiful thing about comic book characters there are many interpretations and changes over time.

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Exactly, I say the same thing to people who want a female James Bond: Just make a new franchise with a diverse female superspy, quit riding the coattails of successful franchises just to push your own agenda.

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Saw this today. Where are all the black actors in Oppenheimer.

https://twitter.com/CapybaraFilo/status/1683169759020433409

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It's portraying a piece of history. Therefore you try to be as accurate as you can to history. Fiction is more flexible given the circumstances and how the story is written and structured.

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Check this one too, which lays out how this disgusting practice is utterly indefensible

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film

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Wow! It really went downhill after 2017. Used to be around 2-5 per year. Now it's 1-2 per year or none in 2024.

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Film was invented by whites. Hollywood was founded by whites and is run by them. The film makers that have shaped the industry over a century are white. The audience they specifically target their films for are white.

You are complaining about white people 'white washing' the films that they pay for, produce, create and sell.

You don't think that if there was an African cinema that they would do the same? What about India if they 'Brownwash' characters?

If you're pissed off about this then why don't minorities just create their own cinema? Or would you rather just beg white people to make films for you and then bitch at them for not including you in it?

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Irrelevant. When a role calls for a certain race, gender, age, height, etc, you get an actor of that race, gender, age, height, etc.

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most of Tom cruise's roles called for an actor with greater height . They had to shorten Kelly McG in Top Gun!

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I was going to comment something similar but you said it better than me.
Nice job.

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Minorities did make their own film. Black panther. And people still bitched about it.

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The issue here is whether an actor has licence to portray another without restriction when, after all, that is all they do.

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You're right. We should remember that the next time a sodomite complains that gay characters should never, ever be portrayed by a heterosexual.

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This is exactly where the problem arises; blackface say, is now considered wrong, but (as in Brokeback Mountain for instance) straight actors can play gay ones without any real opprobrium. I think it will be inevitable that sensitivities over this sort of thing will increase and some absurd culture battles will be fought.

https://www.gaytimes.com/films/jake-gyllenhaal-says-two-straight-guys-playing-lgbtq-characters-in-brokeback-mountain-broke-stigma/

Sounds like your negativity towards minorities extended to the gay community too lol

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This is not really a complaint taken seriously.

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Except A list actors like Tom Hanks and Sean Penn, both of whom portrayed gay characters in past hits, have said they wouldn't choose those roles again today out of deference to the gay mafia. Let me guess, until this "no queer roles for straights" notion gets codified and literally signed off on by 100% of actors, you'll insist that it's not really happening.

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That's up to them. Straight characters routinely portray gay people. Toby Stephens is not gay. Pedro Pascal is not gay. Christopher Walken is not gay. John Turturro is not gay. DJ Qualls is not gay. Alexis Bledel is not gay. Samira Wiley is not gay. Tamara Podemski is not gay. I have seen no outrage from anyone on this.

They have all portrayed gay characters.

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More goal post moving, I see. You said it's not a complaint to be taken seriously and I provided evidence that some very important actors have already taken it seriously. But your feminine instinct to always have the last word and "win" the argument means that you can't let it lie without a healthy dollop of "Akshually..."

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These are all modern, well known TV shows. No-one cares. If the "gay mafia" was ruthless in somehow cancelling every single straight person who portrays gay people and had the wider entertainment world in its thralls, these roles simply would not have happened.

>But your feminine instinct to always have the last word and "win" the argument means that you can't let it lie without a healthy dollop of "Akshually..."

"Everything I don't like is feminine".

You really are a piece of shit misogynist scubmag.

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Samira Wiley IS openly gay.

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Oh, my apologies. The one exception there. And the others? I can also name more.

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No. Nobody is above criticism.

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