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Example of where Capitalism inevitably results in a bad outcome.


Take the humble plastic disposable razor for example. It's estimated that around two billion of these ( razors and cartridges ) get thrown out world wide each year. But razor companies have been around for a long time and they know how to produce a perfectly good razor from metal that uses a single replaceable steel blade that would be the only thing that gets replaced. And steel blades are "biodegradeable".

But they won't do that because they make a lot more money from selling plastic disposable razors with multiple blades. So they are knowingly doing the wrong thing by their customers and the environment. But they are in the business of making as much money as they can ( well duh ! ) so their customers and the environment can go fuck themselves.




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A lightbulb could be made to last for years with a different filament and stonger vacum inside.But that would put more people out of work just the same as a razor that last. A straight edge could do that but most people are to lazy to keep sharpening it.

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Have you used a straight razor ? I have and I think they are diabolical !

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They were gone from the barbershops before I was old enough to need them.

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You can still buy them from specialist shaving supply businesses but the good ones are very expensive. You can buy a much cheaper shavette which uses half a double edged razor blade which is what I used. Much cheaper and easier as you don't have to hone and sharpen the straight edge of a traditional straight razor.

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I use the old razor blade type razor instead of those cartridges ones. It is getting hard to find blades for them Drug stores is the only place as grocery stores on sell those cartridge ones.

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You mean one of these ?

https://www.shavershop.com.au/dw/image/v2/ABCZ_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-shavershop-master-catalog/default/dwbc75cce6/hires/011302_4.jpg?sw=930&sh=1139&sm=fit

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Yes

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If you're in America Maggard Razors has a website for buying shaving supplies. I have bought from them and they are reputable:

https://maggardrazors.com/

I have a collection of double edged safety razors razors, new and vintage, as well as various blades, shaving brushes and soaps. It became a reasonably pricey hobby.



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Capitalism is about taking as much as possible and giving back as little as possible. I don't consider it to be real business. It's a predatory ripoff culture.

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No. Capitalism is about providing a free market that gives people the freedom to choose what and where they buy. Competition and profits generate productivity while keeping prices down.

People create rip-off culture, not capitalism.

Communism/Socialism provides people (government) the opportunity to create rip-off culture too. Only here, people don’t have a choice to buy elsewhere.

We see this in the US too when the biggest monopoly of all, government, gets involved. How are the prices since Obamacare came along? (Hint they’re up 600-1000%). Or universities which benefit from government guaranteed loans? Or national defense costs?

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Textbook claptrap. In the real world Capitalism more often than not equals theft.

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Capitalism is not perfect, but it is miles better than the alternative.

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Which alternative ?

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Socialism.

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I don't think it's necessarily a choice between Capitalism and Socialism/Communism. I think a blend of all three might be necessary. Or how about abolishing money altogether ? Think of it. You would deal a heavy blow to crime as well as cutting out the huge amount of work expended on finance. People would be freed up to do other kinds of work. We might even get around to looking after children again instead of throwing them into concentration camps. Think outside the box.


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those are great ideas , that will never come to pass sadly, unless forced by some factor , likely the collapse of the current setup.


Its the same thinking that breeds fear of robots and automation
pessimistic: - they'll take our jobs
optimimsist: - we work 1 day per week and the robots do the rest.

It would however require a radical re think of the current money/reward system.

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Nordic Model or EU/Canadian Model which protects average people much more.

The U.S. Model is too prorich and screw everyone else.

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I'd like to see an experiment with a small town where no money nor barter is used for a year. Everything free.

I doubt that Capitalism is the last step since it leaves a significant amount of people poor globally.

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Reeeeeeeeeee.

No it actually doesn’t. Theft is theft.

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You are an idiot.

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How are the prices since Obamacare came along? (Hint they’re up 600-1000%)


Do you have a source and/or evidence to support this claim?

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"People create rip-off culture, not capitalism."

...Precisely

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If there's no capitalism there's no profit.

What would you have everyone share? Empty bowls?

Because that's what happens in every society where the elites in government are too smart for capitalism.

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Well, that's the Capitalist mantra anyway. It's our way or no way ! Everything else leads inevitably to disaster ! Trust me I know !

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Same with toilet paper they make it so damn flimsy that you can only use it once.

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Well if they put a bidet next to ( or incorporated into ) every toilet you wouldn't need toilet paper at all.

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I think bidets are kind of gross to tell you the truth. Maybe a rag in a bucket of that sanitizing liquid that bars use to clean cups.

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Well we're talking about bum holes and shit here so it's bound to be gross no matter which way you look at it. But a properly designed bidet is no grosser than a toilet.

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"I think bidets are kind of gross to tell you the truth."

...a poop smeared dirty butthole IS kinda gross.

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Two wrongs don't make a right.

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i was implying that even though you think bidets are gross, the alternative to that is wiping your ass with toliet-paper which is essentialy smearing poop on skin. which is 100x grosser.

bidets use fresh clean water. nothing dirty abou it. it tickles too. bonus.

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Or get one of those kick ass Japanese toilets. You can forgo the TP all together and start walking around with a much cleaner butthole.

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Lots of places in the US aren't as good an area to get the water for those.

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I think the most common type they use is that hole in the floor kind.

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How do old people use those squat toilets ? Do they dangle a rope down from the ceiling so they can haul themselves back up again ?

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Interesting query. I think when they get to that age they just kick them into the hole.

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Why are people so unkind !?

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Like you said, it's capitalism. They'd rather kick granny into the toilet than figure out a better way.

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If you use a squat toilet your whole life, you develop strong legs.

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There are modified higher toilet seats for frail people with side handle bars.

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It’s not even sanitary. Bidets are. Imagine if you did the dishes wiping it once with some tp.

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With the rag and bucket there could be multiple wipes. Once the rag touches that sanitizing solution it is instantly sterilized and can be used again immediately.

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Floss companies. They sell it a little bit at a time in a plastic dispenser that most likely gets thrown out. Sell me a fishing rod spool amount at a discount. But they want repeat business, not everyone buying floss every 3-5 years. Same with toothpaste.

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Well this thread turned to shit in a hurry !

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Fast Fashion is another great example of what your describing.

Companies like H&M and Zara have popularized the fast fashion model, where clothes are produced cheaply and in large quantities to keep up with the latest fashion trends. Which sounds great at first, keeping clothing prices down I mean. But the problem is that it leads to significant waste...the clothes are usually worn only a few times before being tossed aside. Recent data suggests that more than half of fast fashion items are discarded within a year of their production (source: A New Textiles Economy: Redesigning Fashion's Future, Ellen MacArthur Foundation, 2017). Just like the disposable razor blades, a lot of these fast-fashion type clothes end up in landfills and destroy the environment.

Then there's planned obsolescence in the tech industry, that's another whole ball of wax illustrating how sometimes capitalist hunger for profits can result in a bad outcome.

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Yes that is another good example. I still have a couple of wool / acrylic blend pullovers that are over fifteen years old and machine washable ( starting to go through at the elbows now ) but you can't buy them any more, it's all plastic hoodie crap that lasts for two or three years at most and into the trash.

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Thanks to capitalism, us consumers benefit from the competition between manufacturers/designs! DE safety razors for life! Merkur 11C razor + Israeli Personnas @ .10¢/blade = Set for decades and no ingrown whiskers.

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Yes that's all very well if you can learn how to use a double edged safety razor. Not everyone can because they are difficult to master, especially for people with sensitive skin. It's no surprise that cartridge razors blew DE's out of the water when they came in.

No I was talking about razor companies producing a good new razor. Something that looks like the old Schick Injector perhaps but with a better design and using different blades.



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Capitalism also innovated electric shavers and I didn't have to buy a single bladed razor for 15 years. That's a cost of 3 cents a shave, per day. Not bad! And that razor technically didnt stop working, I bought a new one recently and downgraded my old one to manscaper lol.

The benefits of capitalism outweigh the negatives to such a degree, it's never worth replacing it for any marxist-type system.

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Stuck in a rut ! You will never find an alternative if you don't try a few out ! The benefits of Capitalism have been great but there will be a heavy price to be paid probably before the end of this century.

And as far as electric shavers go they have fallen victim to the same Capitalist greed. Sure back in the day when they were powered from a wall socket and were designed to have self sharpening blades they could and did last for ten years or more !

But try finding a corded electric shaver these days. They are nearly all battery powered now and designed so that you can't easily replace the battery when it goes kaput, so the entire shaver has to be thrown out. And because they are battery operated they are under-powered as well so they're not as good.



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And as far as electric shavers go they have fallen victim to the same Capitalist greed.


If you mean cheap Chinese crap alongside the expensive shit that actually lasts... I'll agree with you there. Buying cheap Chinese crap is stupid because it breaks. So by Unit#3 of cheap Chinese, you just spent the amount of $$ the quality unit that would have most likely never broken for years on end.

My old electric razor is a Braun, and it cost $180 in 2008. I bought a new Braun for $190 and its amazing. The old one still works great on my nads. Will the new one last 15+ years like my old one? We'll have to see, but I have no reason to believe it will not.

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Am I the only "man" here that doesn't shave his pubes?

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guess so. I have been shaving/trimming for 20+ years. women appreciate it...and its cooler in the summer without a giant man bush.

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electric razor on nads? brave man :) I use a schick 3....

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