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What did you think of this film?
um.... how do you know? aren't they programmed the same as AI bot?
They scream and bleed, isn't that the feedback I use to perceive they are suffering? the goal post keeps moving here....
with all the corruption in humanity, politics, governing laws, not to mention imperfections of programming logic everywhere, do you feel AI "emotions" will be above moral failures? Better? Seems to me, we don't even know how to program that into humanity... how would we accidently get it right programming it into AI?
...ok.... go on......
we can't even make perfect functioning web pages.... you think we'll get AI right? :D
like NON PLAYING CHARCTERS inside video games. got it.
I better stop all my gaming now! :D
this is why it is called a SPACE ODYSSEY, not a SPACE MOVIE.
it's kinda not supposed to be your common "Movie" experience, but something else.
I'm saddened modern peoples are so used to, and so buried by sequels, trilogies, never ending soap operas that they feel everything needs to be expanded on.
how about we support cool new ideas, rather than this constant rehashing of everything for entertainment?
seems a fitting question, doesn't it?
why do anti-vaxxers bother going to the hospital?
after all, they don't trust those money thieving liars, right?
there's really no point in utilizing that broken system: fake, lying, know nothing doctors and "experts" all on the take, hospitals which must be ineffective lies also, and those drug companies keeping your heart pressure low and other meds... all designed to keep you addicted to them, paying them money.
am I wrong?
isn't this the current thinking?
because using doctors and hospitals would be self hypocritical
Pretell, who should be the baseline?
Why does anyone even bother using doctors, hospitals, or prescriptions anymore? Just Google. :)
people don't like listening to experts where there is much more exciting fiction out there, that sounds so much cooler. we're so fucking dumb, we all deserve to die off.
Hopefully the last movie he is allowed to make dialog mixing decisions for!!! One of the worst mixes I've ever heard.
I hope he continues to do out there stuff instead of these documentary films that everyone else is already doing.
He's a flashlight IMITATING feelings and emotions. Nothing more. The fact people don't want to see that is kinda scary.
"oh noes! it's an old person! WE don't acknowledge the past and everything it paved for us. therefore non-relevant" :D
"adventure/drama/horror"
the adventure was dumb: lets walk into an unknown thing that ate the last team... is the best idea they could come up with? I thought of 100 better ways to manage it and I'm not a scientist or military guy.
Drama was weak, I guess the horror was oka?
it's one of those films I immediately regretted wasting my time on, since it went almost nowhere, and will never watch a 2nd time.
good answer. :)
while I see all living (flesh, organic, grown naturally from Earth) beings as equal, I can never see smart flashlights anything more than machines. machines now and always will be designed to be slaves for us - unlike your ancestors horrific situation - we all use machines to slave for us every single day, from waking us up, making our coffee, to delivering us to our job, sitting in front of one calculating our profits all day long, then slaving away to entertain us at night.
if we design machines to artificially learn, or mimc as I call it, its own self awareness and worth.... even though it is just a program, do we want our toasters, cars, and flashlights to FEEL (due to our programming) they are WORTH more and can do and be more?
Maybe my car will wake up one day and say "I identify as a space X rocket, and you are only enslaving me! holding me down from who I really am" and drives off into the sunset.
We're setting ourselves up for that, if we don't disallow it now.
good discussion.
I am not qualified either but will throw this in:
I don't think any THING programmed to tell us it thinks it is alive, or via programming can extrapolate a previous unrecorded idea in its memory to say it is alive, should ever be allowed to claim that, because of its very inception and existence being created by us and manufactured, just like any other manufactured thing.
It's not right to compare it to us humans, saying things like "Well, we manufacture babies inside us, and have to train them to act alive too..." its completely different because we are already organic, not mecca... the mecca part is what automatically makes robots into nothing more than programmed parts.
For those wanting to "grant rights" or respect to mecca - just because it ACTS alive and tells you it is - understand you are putting false importance on to a thing.... I could run a program on this laptop right now that puts a face on the screen that tells me it is alive, or run a program that "learns" (because of my programming) to pretend to say it is alive, but it is still just a laptop that I can turn off, unplug, reset, or dismantle with zero conscious issues.
I kinda think it is insane for us to be swayed into thinking artificial intelligence will soon NOT be artificial. It always will be because we created it, and because of the PLATFORM it was created and exists on.
Even in the far future what AI has outdone us in everyway, self repairing, learning storing everything, at the end of the day, it's still just a very advanced THING, that we need dominion over.... just like a toaster or flashlight. :) It's a tool.
why would you choose to believe he is conscious? the movie doesn't specifically state that he is - unless I forgot that, yet how will they prove that?
the young woman is acting via programming, nothing more. she is programmed to add input from responses and does so. A Roomba can do that too. :)
doesn't matter if aliens made us or not. we are the baseline. everything stems from us as character zero. WE are doing the building of a thing outside of us. we are manufacturing the flashlights. they will never be able to manufacture us, maybe only make adjustments, but we will never be their creation. it starts with us humans.
Oops was this location about Joe Rogen or vaccines ? i might be posting in the wrong area