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Exactly. I can't quite capture what people fail to understand about the overall basis of Batman. The trailers for this film just defines Batman in my opinion. Yes it has its ridiculousness like the enemies just continuously shooting at him and not realizing they have a better chance at shooting him in the head. But this is still a Batman film and we need moments of awesomeness like that.
The Dark Knight trilogy is perfect yes. I think The Dark Knight is the greatest comic book film ever made and one of the best films ever. Will it be topped? Probably not and do we actually need more films to do justice for the character? No not really but we're obviously gonna get more Batman films regardless due to the popularity of the character and I am more than ok with that. Matt Reeves is a fantastic director. What he has done with Cloverfield, Planet of the Apes, and Let Me In are remarkable achievements. So I think this Batman film is in good hands.
I get where your coming from regarding a Batman film without Bruce Wayne but.... Bruce Wayne IS Batman! Yes I know there's different iterations of the character in the comics but I honestly don't think they should do a live action portrayal of a Batman that is not Bruce Wayne. I'd rather perfer either an animated movie like they did with Spiderverse or a live action TV series but I really don't think we should get a live action non Bruce Wayne Batman film. If it does happen, then a trend will most likely continue down the line of more Batman films without Bruce Wayne and more iterations of Batman. This is will take away the depth and intimacy behind the character of Batman overall. The arch of the ego of Batman is Bruce Wayne's story. When people think of Batman they're supposed to think of Bruce Wayne. That's the way it's supposed to be.
Yeah even a while back I was expecting something a little less like 2h 20m mainly due to this film only being the first in a supposedly new trilogy, so I wouldn't expect something that lengthy. However I did find out that there were over 160 pages in the script and each page in a screenplay estimates to about a minute of screen time so there's actually a good chance this could clock in at almost 3 hrs. I'm still sure itll be cut down to 2h 40 or 30 mins.
I mean the last few films we had featuring Batman like BvS and Justice League weren't really great but that doesn't necessarily effect the future of the character on film and by making him "boring"
Yeah the practicality is what I admire the most about Nolan as well as some other big budget action movies like the modern Bond films. I can't stand over use of CGI. While I thought the action was good in the Nolan films, it didn't have those jaw dropping moments you would expect from Batman. I also have seen Haywire and the action is crazy. I love scene in the beginning with Channing Tatum in the Diner. Yes it's not the most stylish. It's very grounded but it had such awe moments that Nolan lacked a little. That's a great analogy for sure. And yeah you do have to take into consideration that the batsuit isn't the best when it comes to mobility but looks like Reeves will finally make it work hopefully. Going back to the modern Bond films actually, I kinda feel like the same way about Skyfall if you have ever seen that. The action is pretty grounded but lacked some of the style that Casino Royale had. Probably the most stylictic action scene is probably that one take hand to hand combat on the skyscraper.
Yeah I think Pattinsons voice is almost perfect. It's not too over the top but still intimidating at the same time. Bales was a little over done but that being said, yeah the TDK trilogy is overall a masterpiece despite those few flaws.
A midnight showing would be pretty cool as well especially since I'm highly anticipating this. Actually my last midnight showing wasn't too long ago when I saw No Time to Die last weekend. I tend to go to midnight showings for the films I'm literally dying to see.
Agree definitely.
Yeah out of all the upcoming MCU films, doctor strange 2 is the one I'm intrigued the most by and yeah particularly due to its supposed horror esque it's going for and definitely cause of Sam Rami.
I thought Wanda Vision was meh. It was very intriguing but I don't see myself revisiting it. Falcon and Winter Soldier was a disappointment with just two good episodes. I've only seen the first two What if and I thought Loki was the best out of all but still couldve used a bit more work. Daredevil and Punisher were great before they got canceled unfortunately. Both were some of the purest comic book shows ever.
I saw No Time to Die last week and I thought it was great. Dune and French Dispatch I'm seeing this coming weekend.
I thought vulture was good but a little over hyped but I really dug Mysterio a lot. But still, great point since this was the first time we saw those villians of an iconic character like spiderman on screen and they were handled pretty well. It could be the same scenario for Batman.
The joker is the most iconic batman villain but yes, they should try to incorporate other villains into live action films. Man-bat would be cool and would fit in pretty well into this new horror oriented tone they seem to go with in this new Batman franchise.
I honestly don't see the final cut of the film being 3 hours, it'll probably go up to 2 and a half hours. Remember, they were only test screenings and test screenings for films tend to be longer than its final cut. But I'm honestly completely down with a 3 hr batman film.
Ten?! I didn't even know that. The only ones I'm aware that are releasing next year is The Batman ofc and Doctor Strange 2.
You do make a good point. I am a superhero fan but I do see myself getting sick of the genre due to so many content in a single year. The D+ are pretty mid imo and Black Widow was meh. The only ones that stood out to me this year was The Suicide Squad and I thought Shang Chi was pretty decent but I do think we need a break, particularly from Marvel. The only big budget films that I was looking forward to the most this year was No Time to Die and Dune, and the comic book film I was excited for the most was The Suicide Squad.
As for The Batman, I'm genuinely excited for it because I'm a die hard fan of the character so why wouldn't I be excited for it and the trailers honestly just look fantastic and actually different from some of the modern comic book films nowadays.
I honestly do hope that people give more attention to other mature low budget films like Marriage Story, 1917, Birdman, Wolf of Wall Street, etc. This Batman film though honestly looks like its gonna be something special.
Yeah I just think the problem is that for No Way Home, you really need to see the other spiderman films to really appreciate it and I'm just not too big on the overall Homecoming trilogy as well. The tone is just too comical for my taste and No Way Home looks like it will continue that trend a little bit as well.
Yeah I absolutely can't wait for The Batman!
Yeah while I'm looking forward for No Way Home, I see The Batman as an actual film and not just a superhero flick. That's one of the reasons why I'm more intrigued by The Batman. Spiderman on the other hand I feel will only stand out because of course they are bringing back older characters from those previous Spiderman films. I feel like this spiderman film will be heavily too reliant on these previous films for it to work.
Absolutely agree with you on that take!
The detective aspect is something I'm really looking forward to in this film for sure and yeah it has been lacking in the previous films. It looks like it's taking inspiration from Fincher's detective type thriller films like Se7en and Zodiac.
I honestly doubt they will use joker but I wouldn't mind if they were to bring him in him. Particularly Joaquins Joker but yeah they should honestly move on from that character and let other villains from the comics shine on live action.
I honestly do kinda agree that we are getting too much superhero content nowadays especially from Marvel. I would just get excited for a Batman film regardless due to my love for the character. If it wasn't for this film, Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon would be my most anticipated of next year along with Mission Impossible 7.
Yeah TFA can be seen as a rip off of A New Hope. It is pretty reminiscent of that film and does weigh it down but for the most part I enjoyed it. The Apes trilogy is definitely stronger. Dawn and War specifically are masterpiece's.
You definitely hit the nail on that one beautifully in regards to the style over substance analogy. Nolan's films had more tremendous intimacy & depth where Burton was more about style & making an entertaining superhero flick. Obviously substance is more important than style but style is what gives these films more replay value and a more uniqueness to it. Reeves looks like he's taking both aspects and executing them perfectly in this film. And yeah the action isn't the most memorable in the Nolan films and the fights needed to be way more stylized because it's Batman ofc. The car chase in the tunnel with the Joker stood out to me the most. Bales voice was a little over done yes but man I think Patterson may have got it the best. But yeah despite some of those flaws in the Nolan films, he's crafted a beautiful take on the character and I am more than happy those exist.
The cast is spot on for sure man! I seriously can't wait for this film and to see what Reeves brings!
Definitely. The Batman looks like it has a unique element of style to it in which most Marvel films lack.
I'm not too big on the modern spiderman films as well, despite being a fan of the character. This version just comes off too cartoonish in my opinion. The Batman looks like they're sticking to the true essence of Batman that we know and love.
I honestly think this is going to deliver and could give the Nolan films a run for its money. Not saying it will be better than them, particularly The Dark Knight, only due to that film being so damn good, but I feel like it will be around the same quality
Oh definitely Planet of the Apes trilogy 1000x >>>>> SW sequel trilogy! 100% agree with you on that take man! Only good film in the sequel trilogy is force awakens.
And yeah, I'm glad you see this the same way I do man! In regards to the accuracy of not just the character of Batman himself, but the whole atmosphere of Batman. I seriously can't explain enough on how this film just looks so spot on in that aspect. Everything from the action to set design to atmosphere just defines Batman. Overall I thought Nolan got Batman right for the most part, but yeah like you said, he got the tone, and the character right but one of the more weaker aspects in his films are the way the action is handled. While not bad, it just wasn't Batman to me. And I understand his approach was to be more grounded in reality which I love, but I think he dived a little too much on that aspect particularly in the atmosphere of Gotham and of course the action. Gotham was just a generic looking city shot in Chicago and NY. But that's really only my only gripe with those films. This on the other hand is pure Batman accuracy judging by the trailers. Also yeah, the Arkham games are honestly the best we had in regards to the depiction of Batman man! You definitely seem like a dude who's knows your stuff when it comes to the character!
Can't wait to see what Dano brings as well as the other cast members. Fraisers work is just spot on. Patterson looks like he's gonna bring it!.I definitely think this may be the best Batman film since the Dark Knight. Seriously can't wait!