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that's easily resolved - no signal/service in the bathroom.
Anyway, I think the OP is tryna say that it's not the outdated language or technology, it's more to do with attitudes now. Preston's behaviour was considered romantic then but just plain creepy now. Likewise no-one would buy the happy ending ("they are still together"), and instead be focusing on what a mistake it would be for Amanda and how unrealistic a relationship would be between 2 very different people who barely knew each other when they got together.
And this outlook is perfectly rational and logical. I guess in the 90s, as the OP says, there wasn't the cynicism or criticism there is now and people just took it for the sweet love story the writers intended. Unless they didn't and they wanted to leave Preston's behaviour (and Amanda's) down to interpretation over the years, in which case, hats off to them.
Maybe she calculated that if he was there with bad intentions, he looked significantly stronger than her, could be armed, etc, so if she'd just approached and asked what he was doing there, it would give him an opportunity to attack. So it was better to use the element of surprise to incapacitate him and then ask questions. Or maybe it was instinct taking over - she saw someone in her cabin who shouldn't be there and went at him before she had time to think. Speaking of time to think, I'm clearly giving this way too much thought ha ha!
Actually I think it would have played better if he'd ended up with Alice, and Emory had just carried on travelling, content that she had plenty of time to find someone to settle down with. She said herself that with already living in his town, their kids being friends etc, that Alice was better suited for him.
On the plus side at least the "ex/alternative love interest" was a good person, which is a nice change of pace for these kind of movies
thanks for the replies. The scene I mentioned is on youtube and this had already been discussed in the comments there - something I hadn't really taken in to account was that he didn't have a support network at home or anyone in his life encouraging him to stay in school. The only person he really had after the events of season 4 was Michael and he's not exactly the staying in school type.
At least on the corners, Michael had his back, and, as you say, the corners/the street life was all he knew. Even though he didn't fit in there, it still made more sense to stick with what he knew and he had no motivation to try anything else.
TLDR - while it's far from perfect, a lot of it's problems were down to having to basically undo the end of series one with Coach and also keep characters from series one even though they should have graduated, then, just when it had really got going again, it was stopped in its tracks by the writers' strike (which gave the show itself a perfect excuse to pretend this series never happened).
....Who Do You Think You Are is in my Top 5 episodes of the entire show. The drama with Smash being aggressively recruited, then losing the scholarship, then finding a place to play was also a great story (which season 3 kinda ruined!). In fact, I’d say the last 4 episodes in a row (before the writers’ strike derailed it) were really strong and there’d have still been another 7 to go. Maybe I’m giving too much benefit of the doubt – maybe they wouldn’t have kept that standard up for another 7 episodes – but we’d have found out how Tami became Principal, we’d have seen Lyla and Tim get together (something that they were clearly building all through season 2), we’d have seen Buddy’s reaction to his wife taking the kids out of state, only to be consoled by Lyla deciding to stay in Dillon, and on the pitch we’d have seen Smash return from suspension in time for the playoffs.
Even if all of the above stories weren’t executed well, season 2 ending properly would have changed the trajectory of the show.
In addition to the Smash story concluding, we’d have seen Jason’s girlfriend deciding to keep the baby, and maybe he’d have left Dillon at this point. And the romance between Landry and Tyra may well have been settled by the series’ end too. (This kind of ties in with point 3 about the writers’ strike meaning they had to make Tim, Tyra and Lyla younger in order to see their stories out.)
Then, in season 3, they could have started with new stories right off the bat as we’d have already had closure with the original characters.
Instead, the writers’ strike has allowed season 2 to be dismissed, not only by fans but also by the show itself, to the point where it seems to be considered some kind of fan-fiction-parallel-universe.
well he's got the surname already
I'd have to watch it again - certainly once he bags Gekko and the brokerage have his multi-million-dollar account, it stands to reason they'll give Bud free reign - it's the initial meeting beforehand on company time that seems a bit cheeky, but if the above is correct his boss does chastise him when he only arrives at lunchtime....maybe Bud didn't expect to be kept waiting all morning and so told the office he had a doctors appointment or something thinking he'd only be an hour or so late, not half a day......or maybe like pacificpooch says above, they allowed their brokers the occasional show of initiative in being away from the office to meet clients, providing they had the sales/accounts/commissions to justify it....
he went to Seattle, continuing to practice his sleazy brand of law their, but got jilted at the altar
apparently the "cry scene" was inspired by a real life incident in which a stockbroker started crying in relief when he got arrested - relief that it was over, that he was away from the stress of it all.
Doesn't really work in the context of Bud coming in to the office all triumphant - the last thing he'd want at that time was to be taken away from it.
extremely late to the discussion here, but I don't think the issue is that he had the audacity to petition for custody. The issue for me is that the lady from child services or wherever seemed to think he had every chance of getting it - when it was first raised, she even said something to Christine about how she'd better hope for a Christmas miracle.
what if they do something "special" as Mr Blue suggested?! ha ha Still capped at 20% ?
Reading this post in 2020 has a whole new meaning!
you're alright Larusso. Good match.
Ever mindful of good sportsmanship, Johnny puts aside his bruised ego...etc
Interesting. And maybe it comes from the "strike first" motto - they're never taught defence.
In fact, when Miguel finally goes back to training after what happened at the halloween party, Johnny talks about needing more defence, then tells him the best defence is an even stronger offence or something to that effect.
That said, the next fight (the cafeteria), Miguel waits for Kyler to throw the first punch before brilliantly blocking it and striking back.
just to expand on Artisan's comment, when Johnny was talking about the "new cobrai kai", he talked a lot about nuance, and how there's a time to show mercy. Short of talking the students through every single possible scenario, though, it was very much a judgement call as to when to show mercy.
Unfortunately, Miguel exercised poor judgement. (1) Robbie was a skilled fighter who still posed a threat, (2) he would have been mad on adrenaline from the fight and the humiliation of being pinned like that, (3) he had previous beef with Miguel, including his cheap shots on his already injured shoulder at the tournament only a few months earlier, and the whole Samantha love triangle.
Keeping Robbie pinned until the police/teachers/whoever came to restrain him might have been a way of showing mercy without the repercussions that happened.
Incidentally, wasn't Robbie supposed to rest the shoulder for the entire summer after the tournament? That was soon forgotten.
been watching some of this in the UK. From what I've seen, the first episode is a masterpiece compared to later ones. I actually thought it started OK. I stopped watching about halfway through - by this point, they've messed with the timeline, contradicted themselves in terms of Darby's history and also what the series is supposed to be about, ended an episode on a cliffhanger that wasn't resolved until 2 episodes later, and that's in addition to what little quality there was going downhill the entire time. I skipped to the last episode just to see how it ended and don't feel like I've missed much
wow, just watched some of those scenes. Thank you.
Wearsalan, do you have a source or a link to any kind of script for these scenes? I'd like to see more of it.
I've heard William Zabka say he got the part based on how he played the last scene you've mentioned, but given what we've witnessed so far, I don't know that Johnny pushing Daniel up against a wall after he's questioned his sensei's outlook is that bad.
The other 2 scenes, however, would make quite a difference, especially if they were to take place between the first week of school and the halloween dance. It would give more reason for Daniel's water-hose stunt and would put paid to a huge part of the "Daniel is the real bully" theory (that several weeks, maybe even 2 months, have gone by without incident and then Daniel needlessly re-ignites the situation). If the audience are shown that Johnny & co have still been harassing Daniel during that time, well, frankly, the fact that he drenches Johnny at the halloween dance would make a lot more sense .
"It’s hard to see how Daniel maintains his upbeat nature. Given that the films take place immediately after each other, the guy hasn’t had a break from being pulverised by different violent gangs everywhere he goes since he arrived in L.A., it’s enough to have turned anyone into a super-villain."
To be fair there's about a 5 or 6 month gap between the end of 1 and the start of 2. As far as we're aware, he has a happy few months with Ali and no drama. Maybe we need another movie - The Karate Kid 1.5 to fill in the blanks here.