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8 years late replying, but just to add, although it happened, it was on Carter's 1st down, according to the book, not 4th down as portrayed in the film. So even if it had been correctly called as incomplete, in reality Dallas could still have continued their game-winning drive, whereas in the film it would have been a turnover. Hollywood and dramatic effect and all that.
If we're going to talk about ridiculous moments with Beadie Russell, I've got to go for the part near the end of Season 2 when she "follows" Vondas in the hotel. I don't think she could have been any less subtle if she tried. And yet the other detectives are watching this and saying "she wasn't much when she came here but look at her now" or words to that effect.
I thought the same thing re the whole Landry-Tyra-Tim thing - I searched it at the time and the explanation was that the writers wanted the first few minutes of the finale to echo the first episode as much as possible, hence the players being interviewed pitch-side during practice in those directors chairs. Coach telling Tami they'd be now be able to afford a house with his-and-hers closets was also a shout out to the pilot.
So Tim and Tyra waking up together was a part of that, as was Landry interacting with Matt. And again, his mention of how they used to wonder how they'd even talk to Julie was another reference to the first episode.
The annoying thing with the whole redistricting thing is that they could easily have run most of the Season 4 & 5 story without needing to contrive it.
In Season 2 when they have to share their facilities with that other school (Laribee/Lariby, something like that), the team are called the Lions, they play in red, they're obviously from a nearby town, the next town over I think, so how hard would it be for Eric to have gotten the job coaching that team after McCoy fires him. He could have still lived in Dillon, the big rivalry would have still been with the Panthers, in fact the Luke mailbox thing would have made more sense if he technically lived just within the border of the other town.
OK, you wouldn't have had him building a team/program from scratch, but frankly an already existing and established team winning state after 2 seasons would have been a lot more plausible than East Dillon winning it just 15 months after having to forfeit their first game.
that's how I understood the killers story too, and it still doesn't make sense - maybe it's just me. He "got turned on" but "couldn't manage" - he either got, erm, excited, or he didn't. Unless he means he got excited at the thought of being with her, but when it came to the actual act itself, it didn't happen. It's not clear. And seeing as the detective doesn't care about his story and the killer died almost immediately afterwards, I guess we'll never know!
It's never clear if Finchy is an employee of Wernham Hogg or just a freelance sales rep, or maybe a rep for one of the companies they deal with. In fact, just before Brent rings the talking clock, Jen didn't seem to know who Finch was and says to Brent something to the effect of "I trust you'll tell him we wont be using him again" which would suggest he wasn't officially an employee so maybe they just carried on dealing with him without Jen knowing.
Actually, after Brent had been rumbled with the talking clock call, she just says "pathetic" and walks off so I don't think she was actively going to do anything herself, she was just disappointed with Brent's behaviour.
Or maybe his mate Neil put in a good word for him and convinced Jen to keep him on.
Has anyone got the right time?
well the incident in the first episode of the second series - I think Brent would get a bit more than a verbal ticking off for that now.
Guys over 30, probably with mortgages and families to support, being able to do so by working in the warehouse. Now it would be all kids on zero hour contracts.
Just the general wasting time and staff seemingly going hours, days on end, doing no work. Now, they'd have targets, there'd be more than just Brent overseeing everything - sales, accounts etc would each have a team leader who'd make sure everyone was meeting said targets. Gareth would be in his element.
I think a lot of the material was written in 1998. There's even....not quite a "pilot" - I'd call it more of a prototype that I've seen on youtube, not sure if it's still available. It mostly focuses on Brent, the temp and Dawn (only Dawn's played by someone else) and that whole "fake firing" scene is done. There's some voiceover narration too which would be more consistent with a docu-soap.
Flat Eric, the George Michael jokes, the fact that Dawn's talking about school re-unions (by the time it aired I think friends re-united would have been fairly popular) and as already stated, the outdated technology, plus docu-soaps were everywhere in 1998. By 2001 they were being replaced by reality shows (big brother being out the year before).
The only thing in the show to suggest it's more recent is the music when they're in the club.
there was always something about Neil that didn't seem right but I couldn't put my finger on it - so thank you! His friendship with Finchy, joining in with the lewd jokes etc was inconsistent with what we see of Neil the rest of the time. There's a similar thread on here about Trudy being a contradictory character at times too.
I get that they wanted to show him to be everything Brent wanted to be though - maybe they could have had Finchy be so respectful of Neil that he behaved around him and would chastise Brent for not doing the same.
It takes place in the same episode in which Daniel's mom visits. In fact, I think it's the scene immediately before/after Johnny tells his side of things that Daniel gets called out on saying he got pushed down a cliff when it was really a hill. So I think they were showing that, over the years, both characters have exaggerated or twisted the things that happened to them
Don't forget a music scholarship for Lea Thompson too!