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that would actually play a lot better. Start with Casey sabotaging the NASA demolition.
In addition to what you've said, other positives would be:
It would make what Casey's seeing and experiencing when she touches the pin more mysterious because it would also be new to us viewers. Furthermore, the vision of Tomorrowland itself would be teased and gradually shown, rather than being hit with it right at the beginning.
It would also cut out the one scene they kept of Casey's childhood - one short scene with Judy Greer makes it obvious that there must be a ton of deleted scenes/story with her!
Additionally, maybe this is just a personal one, but I found the sudden change of pace, setting etc after the intro kinda unsettling, like I'd started watching one film then it changed to another one.
see Heisenberg's "restaurant co-ownership was ridiculous" thread - blahblahblah's theory is correct according to that
It may have been more about not wanting to go down for Lufthansa due to other people's carelessness, rather than about wanting to keep all the money for himself.
I think it's said in the narration that he'd been in and out of prison most of his life so I'm not sure if the couple of years he did for the Tampa thing would have changed him, especially if he had a cushy time like Henry and Paulie did.
I'd also say he was never a great guy. At the point he's introduced, he "loved to steal" and had been committing murders for money since he was 16 - the fact that he tips bar staff excessively hardly makes him a good person.
Thank you - that makes more sense now.
It was confusing because all we viewers are shown is Tommy being Tommy and flying off the handle at the first sign of perceived disrespect from the owner, so it just looks like a great piece of spontaneous opportunism from Paulie.
At the same time though, Henry's narration implies that they do this sort of thing all the time, the way he says words to the effect of "until in the end there's nothing to do but light a match" in the present tense.
It's a pity they didn't do more to show that it was all deliberate and planned.
Possible but I think Kleinfeld's reaction when Carlito confronts him about it tells him everything he needs to know
while it doesn't need to be fleshed out, it's a bit weird that she wasn't at the wedding as Kevin's plus-one. All they had to do was show him dancing with a girl at the wedding reception (who, with no lines, would have just been another extra so it wouldn't have cost any time or money). It just seemed like lazy, clunky exposition, kinda like the "law school" line mentioned in another thread
either way, in 2022, "oligarchical collectivism" seems to take on a whole new meaning!
only Orwell could have carried on writing it. Anyone else trying to do so wouldn't do it justice.
1984 was his last book and he died not long afterwards. I'd like to think had he carried on, he could have finished "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" and had it as an appendix to 1984 as suggested earlier in the thread. Or maybe the reader's only supposed to know as much as Winston knows and it's better only seeing a couple of chapters.
What was keeping him from talking to her - Mike Dexter. The why is open to interpretation - you can think the worst of Preston and believe that he figured there'd be no point if she had a boyfriend.
I prefer to think that, Mike Dexter wouldn't have taken too kindly to any other guys talking to Amanda. And his 3 jock friends (plus others, possibly) would have backed him up and joined in with any punishment Mike felt he needed to dish out.
See Sean Astin's character's treatment in the first part of Encino Man (or California Man as it's known here!) for examples....now that I think about it, that guy was called Mike too.
edit 2 months later - my mistake, he was called Matt
well according to the sequel, Bud does make a success of BlueStar after some time "away"
that's OK, I thought he was saying "terra", like it was the name of some Druid cult that she was part of
It goes back to what he'd said to Tony and...can't remember the redhead's name...earlier - despite having probably never been to one of these gatherings before, Mike thought he knew what would happen - that the fight would be broken up before any damage could be done. When he hears the footsteps behind him (of people crowding round to watch the event) he must think great, plan's working. Then the footsteps stop. When Clint gets back up you actually see Mike turn round hoping someone's coming to break it up (like Pink came along earlier to stop Clint just before he could get violent - this time though Pink is too far away and can't react until it's too late).
Then, his plan B is to "play d-fence" until it does get broken up. Again, in his naivety, he must have thought Queensbury Rules applied and he'd just have to try to dodge or block Clint's punches. Hard to play defence though when someone grounds and pounds you!
If he'd known that's how it would play out, he would have carried on attacking while Clint was on the ground. Or not hit him in the first place. Or hit him and run away.
would have been his first Tara too
is Jake the main character in Everyone Wants Some?
That would fit with the timeline if they're at a 4 year high school, as it would put Mitch in the class of 1980.
The high schoolers clearly drive to a different school for the initial paddling and Mitch and in particular the other kids (his blond friend and the chubby lad with long hair) do look a good 3 years younger than the rest of the party goers, although the girl that Mike's friend gets with looks older, maybe because she's tall?
It did confuse me that they were calling them "freshman" throughout the movie - I can only assume that once the school bell went that day, they considered themselves "seniors" (even though their senior year wouldn't begin for another 3 months), and so, by that logic, they'd also consider the middle-school (or whatever it is) leavers "freshmen".
You'd think they'd save that kind of initiation for the first day of high school but whatever.
Oh wow, just realised Jake's an ace pitcher just like Mitch!
Well he'd already gone out of his way to save his life once and look how he thanked him! Ra's wouldn't have stopped until Gotham was destroyed, so it was done to protect both himself and everyone in Gotham.
Plus I'm not sure Ra's couldn't have jumped from the train or something. Those last view seconds he just shut his eyes, like he knew he'd failed in his mission and wanted to go.
Anyway, it beats the usual action movie cliche in which the hero kills dozens of the main villain's henchmen to get to him, then refuses to kill the main villain.
3, 1, 2, 4 and 5 for me.
that was the problem with the 2nd film - actually it was one of many problems! - they would have been in their 20s in the timeline of things, and seeing Jay still acting like that was weird and almost depressing. Especially when they all seemed to have shown some maturity and character development in the 1st film.
It's also the problem with things like SATC and Bridget Jones - the whole point of them was that the characters were in their 20s/early 30s and were still discovering themselves, hadn't settled down yet etc, like a lot of people that age who have big city careers, city centre apartments etc. It was relatable.
Seeing them in their late 40s and 50s still behaving like grad students - just no.
and the thing is, the original fresh prince did tackle serious issues, including racist cops.
I can think of about half a dozen episodes in which they did this, so maybe average of once per series. These episodes would often fade out in silence as if to say that this is no laughing matter.
And because it was usually a light hearted comedy, it made the serious episodes all the more powerful and thought provoking.
it's also a rare glimpse of the old Michael. Genuinely warm and affectionate with his biological family, almost jovial (saying "you'll be next" to her twin etc) - maybe it was deleted because they felt that by this point Michael was already too far gone to be like that