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the funny thing is that Jason London played basically the same person in the Carrie Sequel and was easily the best thing about that movie even though he about 10 years older than the character he was playing!
In this film though, he's stuck with an entire team of Bennys and Banions, and I can't imagine any of the cheerleaders in this taking a freshman under their wing
They'd argue that they don't "physically attack anyone who disputes this non-fact" - that they only fight with other "firms" who are consenting to a fight. They don't just attack supporters of other clubs who aren't involved.
Which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that
(1) innocent people get caught up in it, either as by-standers who get hit, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time when some thug wants to assert his alpha status (such as the guy hatcher attacks in the chippy). And even if they don't get physically hit, they could still be scarred emotionally through being blamelessly caught up in the middle of it, such as the old guy reading a paper on the station platform at the beginning
(2) it means all football fans, in particular visiting fans, are treated as thugs by the police and the authorities
(3) the taxpayer funded NHS has to keep treating those who come worst off in these "rumbles", plus innocent locals have to live with the criminal damage these rumbles have caused until the council can fix it, then their council taxes have to foot the bill for repairs (like the toppled phone box from the opening fight)
So this idea that they only fight among each other so it's harmless is absolute bs.
i think just setting foot in that pub again was enough for him to be considered "back in the game". That's why he promised his family he wouldn't go there again - not even on a weekday daytime for a quiet game of pool.
No-one but Frodo and Jax knew that he was only there that night to get his brother-in-law out of the firing line. I don't think Shannon understood this either - I'd have to watch the full movie again (or not!) but I thought she left because her husband had betrayed her trust by becoming involved again rather than for her own safety.
"Keep in mind, the firms are in different towns/cities. I don't think it's realistic to go a town over find out where someone works/lives/shops."
The biggest rivals in english football are often based in the same city and geographically very close in that city. For example Everton and Liverpool are only separated by a park.
Likewise West Ham and Millwall are both in the east side of London so fans would live and work among each other, which is why local derby victories are often talked about as bragging rights in the pubs and workplaces. Because fans of both clubs would be in these places.
Therefore Hatcher wouldn't have had to travel out of his way to locate the Major.
Like you say though, if he was spotted casing the major's place it could be a huge problem for him
because a soccer ball is shaped like a foot
common sense would tell him that. Problem is I'm not sure Clarence had much of that. He was naive when it came to the criminal world and deluded when it came to everything - imaginary conversations with Elvis and all that.
And it's in one of these conversations Elvis tells him that getting away with it's the easy part. So he may well have concluded, incorrectly, that the police overlooked the ID - either through not bothering to search the crime scene properly (like Elvis told him they wouldn't because, hey, it's only a scumbag pimp), or because they thought it might just belong to one of Drexl's many clients or that it was a fake or stolen ID that happened to be lying around. Naive I know, but there's plenty of true crime stories out there in which the perpetrator has grossly underestimated the thoroughness of the police's investigations.
As for the suitcase, I think he was a lot more concerned with going down for murder than he was with someone potentially coming after him for the drugs. So it either didn't occur to him that the police might not be the only ones looking for him, or he underestimated who was coming after him. Maybe he figured at best it might just be another 2 bit punk like Drexil, and looking in his apartment and maybe the comic book store would be as far as they'd go, and therefore skipping town would be enough. That even tracking down his father's address would be beyond them.
He didn't know he'd have the mafia coming after him.
For most of the comments, the OP to be fair does say "It's totally plausible and even likely that in the confusion & chaos at Drexl's place that he would have have forgotten it. That being said, it shouldn't have taken very long. Perhaps, a day or so at best before he realized it was missing...."
The issue isn't that he left it there with all that was going on, the issue is that we're not shown him later on realising that he left it there.
My answer to the question is that he did realise and that's the reason they up and left for the coast so quickly. And that's also why he visited his father - no make sure he wasn't a suspect in Drexl's murder (the only reason he would be is because of his ID being at the scene). His father confirms that it's being treated as a drug/gangland thing.
all except the one with the ball. He had a good day - ran a kick return for a touchdown AND was the only player to survive Bane's explosion. Definitely MVP for that game
I never got that scene anyway. I understand them smashing the cast to check there's not a wire underneath.
What I don't get is why they then start bashing his injured arm with the shoe. What's he gonna say "damn, you got me. OK, I am a cop. Now please continue with this torture until I die from it".
that's something I'd never thought of. In the original, the crime boss has several younger, presumably minor members of his gang (Andrew Lau's character being one of them) join the police force at the same time, so there's not the seeming exclusive father-like relationship with any of them.
If major crimes had been on Costello's case for years its funny they didn't recognise golden boy staff sgt Sullivan as one of Costello's contacts.
true - for example, the police know about the microprocessors before Billy's even managed to get in with Costello, so that must have been coming from somewhere/someone else.
in addition to the comment above re people trashing their homes before leaving, it also showed others accepting the cash-for-keys offer.
The ones who were caught off guard were done so because they were under the impression that legal proceedings to prevent the eviction were still going on and that the eviction couldn't happen until they'd been resolved. We see this with the main character and several other cases. I don't know how often that would have happened in real life - the movie makes it look like at least half of the evictions happen that way, but it could only be a small percentage
And of course, we're only shown that ones where they have to turn up with a police escort to do the eviction. I guess it would be pretty boring to show the ones in which the tenants have already quietly vacated.
and for me, this is one of those occasional movies that does work. It's possibly the only 2021 hallmark christmas one that i've been able to watch all the way through.
I thought they only approached Hank Azaria after they'd started following Chris - hence them having him "talking dirty on the telephone" to her (which also indicates that she'd carried on their affair despite Neil trying to persuade her otherwise) and that after the heist Hank Azaria took them to some sort of police holdout under the pretense that it was one of his safehouses or something. Not sure how Chris managed to find her from there though
there's a deleted scene which takes place immediately before this, in which one of Sonny's daughters wants Michael's permission to marry, and the groom-to-be happily answers all Michael's questions about his family and future plans and is 100% respectful to Michael. They're not asking for money, just Michael's permission/blessing. It's shown as the appropriate way to handle the situation.
It's a pity they cut that scene because it contrasts perfectly with Merle strolling in and demanding someone get him a drink while Connie doesn't ask but tells Michael that she's getting married.
I'm going to pull in elements of Cobra Kai and The Public Enemy here.
The hospital scene is widely regarded as the moment when Michael turned gangsta - I think this may also be the tipping point towards him being so ruthless.
When he finds out about the initial attempt on his father, there doesn't seem to be any intention of revenge - his only concern is for his father to get better. In fact he even says "are you really gonna kill all those guys" when Sonny and Co are discussing things.
It's only when he goes to visit his father in hospital and realises that the security has been called off that he wants in on things - in fact, before he offers to do it himself, he sides with Sonny when Tom's trying to warn him off more killing
"it can't wait - getting rid of pop, that's the key for him" or words to that extent. Contrast this to the earlier scene where he seems perturbed by the idea of so much revenge killing.
So maybe the initial assassination attempt was considered part of the game, whereas murdering someone when they're unguarded in their hospital bed is underhanded and cowardly, dare I say unsporting if there is such a thing in the mob world.
So Michael figures the enemies are willing to stoop to such low levels and aren't going to show any mercy so why should he.
10) The plot of big-time developer coming to town, and small business owner initially fights against but then falls in love with said big-time developer.
"lots of big-city scenery/beauty shots"
I'd also say that by giving the upper east side a real small-town feel, it also felt more like a hallmark movie. In fact this movie really had its cake and ate it in terms of having both a big-city and small-town setting at the same time
I watched it again this year for the first time in ages and I didn't realise how bad this part was. I thought the girls did look and act and sound 13, but I also thought the guys they were claiming to be their boyfriends looked about 20 (and 17 would have been inappropriate enough).
I'm guessing either there was a lack of communication between the person who did the main casting and the person who brought in the extras, or they figured they just needed to show Darcy's friends talking to any group of guys so it wouldn't matter as no-one would notice.
But this forum shows that people have noticed. It does matter.
They end up looking like a grooming gang!
ironically Billy is also in the Princess Diaries as the jock.
So they had the right actor, wrong film!