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I'm really sick of the hate for the newer one and how people are tyring to say it's one of the worst SK adaptations when far worse ones exist like the new Pet Sematary remake or the crappy 2013 Carrie one that wasn't even trying to be remotely as scary as the 1976 original.
Do I think the 1950s setting works better than the 1980s? Yes, because SK grew up in the 50s and racism and xenophobia was worse back then. However, the 80s setting does not ruin the newer one. Sure, you no longer have Little Richard as he's been replaced by The New Kids on the Block and instead of The Mummy or Wolfman, you now have Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger, but there's nothing wrong with the time peroid change, it just works better with the original one. They couldn't reuse the 50s setting because today's audience were kids in the 80s and 90s whereas when the book came out in 1986, they grew up in the 50s and 60s.
The newer one did have a worse Pennywise because he's supposed to look like a clown similar to Bozo or Ronald McDonald and not some clown from the 17th century. However, the Losers Club was better in the 2017 one. While the acting from their miniseries counterparts was good, their characters were far more bland than their counterparts from the 80s. Like I get it, kids in the 50s and 60s were different from kids in the 80s and 90s, but the newer Richie was a lot funnier and better than Seth Green's portrayal of him from the 1990 verison.
Then we have the bullies. While in most movies, I HATE bullies. Horror (for the most part) is an exception because usually the bullies get what's coming to them and it's usually a deadly fate from the hands of the killer/monster. There aren't very many exceptions where the bullies live or get off, Scott free. The only ones that come to mind are the original Halloween and The Black Phone. The bullies in the 1990 TV miniseries are basically shoddy clones of Ace and his gang from Stand By Me. The bullies are a lot better and more tolerable in the 2017 one. For one, they are still psychotic, but unlike their 1990 miniseries counterparts, they're actually entertaining in a "so bad it's good" kinda way. The miniseries bullies were as forgettable as the bullies from The Garbage Pail Kids Movie or any 80s or 90s Saturday morning cartoon. I've listened to the audiobook of the 1986 novel and yes, they're supposed to be downright cruel and sadistic bastards, like they kill Mike's dog and break Eddie's arm. However, with the stupid toned down crap from the FCC guidelines that were required for the TV miniseries, they come off as lame, run of the mill bullies you'd see in a 90s or 2000s Nickelodeon or Disney Channel show or any 70s or 80s afterschool special.
The nostalgic fanboys and fangirls love to praise this movie for being well made when it's not, while criticizing and shaming the 2017 remake all because of the time peroid change and different looking Pennywise while failing to give praise to the Losers Club. It's really damn sickening that they can't take off those rose tinted glasses and see the miniseries as a dated ass mediocre horror film made for TV. I'm sure for 1990, it was really good for its time and scared kids. But almost 35 years later, it doesn't hold up and looks very outdated and cheesy.
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I'm sorry, but the hate for these newer film adaptations needs to stop. The 2017 was not that bad, ugh. See, the bitching from people is getting worse as time goes on. Even older stuff like Seinfeld is getting hate when it was almost universally loved. This is why I hate the newer generation of people so much. Goddamn social media has made us worse, instead of better.
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Honestly, it deserves more love than hate. The Time Machine '78 deserves nothing but hate and even the 2011 Morlocks miniseries from Syfy was way better than that shit.
Really, why? Do we really want another reboot that will probably be woke?
Our society wasn't originally full of SJWs and wokeness because of bullying (as bad as it was, even depicted in this show) turned kids/teens into better people. When you take that out, you're left with pathetic incels, karens, and SJW cucks who get so easily offended by small potatoes and shame you for shit that wouldn't have even offended people 30-40 years ago. That's how bad things have been since the 2010s and people like Barack Obama and places like X and Tumblr are to blame for that.
There's tough love and then there's bullying having an unironically better influence on people, even if they're assholes who say mean and hurtful words and/or do very cruel shit like physical assault.
But we need a coming of age show that's akin to TWY/F&G, but set in the 90s or 2000s, instead of the 60s/70s/80s.
Yeah, sad. They were the 2nd coming of the 50s, pretty much.
Its really bad! Like Seinfeld gets hate when in the 90s and 2000s, everyone loved it. It's like a damn disease and it's called "I hate everything" syndrome.
In the younger internet days of the 2000s, nobody would complain this bad! This decade alone made it worse! Classic cinema and television keeps getting shat on by either the new generations or something is going on that I don't know about. Why do people bitch and complain 24/7 when back in 2005-2015, they were fine? Back then "Nah, this isn't for me", nowadays it's "This isn't for me, therefore it's awful".
Wow, people are getting worse over time. Like no joke, people just have no love for almost anything, anymore. We live in such an awful echochamber society where no one can be happy, anymore. Wasn't even this bad over a decade ago. It started with this horrible decade and people just find a reason to bitch and whine about anything. Now it's the classics being shit on. Cry me a fucking river! Christ almighty!
Yeah, the 1960 version is superior because the story isn't overdone and overwhelming. It sticks to the basis of the novel. I'm mixed on the tragic loss of his girlfriend in the 2002 one.
The 1978 version was 10X worse. Anyone who thinks this version was terrible, please go watch the godawful 70s version. It's way worse and makes this version look like 12 Monkeys!
The sequel wasn't that bad. It was better than most sequels like Dumb & Dumber To and Anchorman 2.
The bully from 17 Again, now that was a piece of shit character and he doesn't even get his comeuppance. Sure, he gets humiliated in the school cafeteria, but later he shows up at a party and attacks the main character and then it cuts to the character waking up in bed as an adult again, WTF!? Talk about bad writing. Why do people even like that movie? It was an average, mediocre at best, teen comedy. Sorry Zac Efron fans, that movie sucked! It was badly written at parts and Tom Hanks' Big was a way better age swap film. I mean good grief!
There's a reason why jocks are no longer portrayed as bullies in movies and TV shows. They were fucking unbearable douchebags who got away with almost everything because they were in sports and getting them kicked out for bullying would make the high school football team look bad. Not even the typical mean girl cheerleaders were this fucking unbearable. The last time we had asshole jocks was in Glee, I believe. After that, the amount of asshole jocks gradually decreased and it's not hard to see why. They were shitty 1-dimensional stereotypes who were just assholes.
Biff Tannen and Flash Thomson and probably the only 2 jock bullies in the history of cinema and television that are actually bearable. The former is actually pretty funny and the latter becomes a much better person, later on in life.
LOL, the OP calling this a bad sequel has such shitty godawful tastes in movies. You want a bad sequel? Watch The Exorcist II or Silent Night, Deadly Night, Part 2. Both are BAD!
In all seriousness, OP is sooo wrong. BTTF2 is not a bad sequel. Hot Tub Time Machine 2 is.
Out of all the horror revivals and evolutions, Scream isn't that bad. Both the Blumhouse Halloween trilogy and the Chucky TV series missed the mark. People just bitch about Scream 5 and 6, but its been a lot better what they did to Ghostface than what they did to Michael Myers and Chucky in recent years. At least Scream isn't inconstant.
Michael Myers started off as his 1978 self in the 2018 requel, then became a slasher version of Thantos in Kills, and then turned into a pathetic pussy in Ends and got beat up by some emo 24 year old manchild.
The Chucky TV series started off strong in the first season, only for Chucky to be turned into his "parody" self from Seed of Chucky in S2 and then in S3, they had him rapidly aging, almost nuking the world, and then we had the weird ghost dimension.
At least Scream hasn't ruined its own lore. The only issue I have with the recent movies was in 6 when the characters got stabbed like 40 times and lived. Also, the ghost of Billy Loomis in 5 and 6 reminds me of Mareen's ghost in 3. The idea of the killer in 3 being able to mimic anyone's voice is a reality in 2025, but wasn't 25 years ago.
I really don't want another "Nancy Thomson Dream Warriors" or "Laurie Strode Resurrection" situation.