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lol that was my 2nd draft.
My first draft was "PISS OFFFFFFFF!!!!!"
The plot framework may seem similar, but I think it's just another example of Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Plot Development (any Trekkies?). Population control by mandatory death at a certain age has been a favorite subject of science fiction writers ever since HG Wells (remember Morlocks & Eloi?), and population control requires an authoritarian, enclosed society. Dystopia is a given.
The subplot of a man & woman is just your standard romance that all writers throw in, to appeal to us on a human level.
So I think it's a coincidence, or if you don't buy that then we'll have to credit the whole thing to HG Wells ;)
[quote]I can't comment on any similarity here to Logan's Run, because for me the movie made no sense. The idea behind everybody dying at 30 is 'one new person comes in and one old person goes out.' (I don't remember if that's the exact quote.) If the people wanted to 'run' and leave the city rather than get killed upon turning 30, why did the authorities (or the Sandmen) care? All that matters is that they left.[/quote]
It wasn't simply a numbers control game; Logan's society believed in reincarnation ("renewal") to such a degree that they killed themselves so they could be reborn. The Runners were those who upset the balance by refusing to renew. So the Sandmen forced them by termination. They didn't see termination as killing. Recall Logan's awesome line "I never killed anybody. I TERMINATE runners!"
I highly recommend you give Logan's Run another try because it's so much more than the run of the mill dystopian population control story--maybe that's why it confused you, because it goes much further. The metaphors of the Circuit, Sanctuary, the character Box, and even Cats, it's all part of a bigger picture. I won't bore you unless you really want to give it another shot.
BAD GUY: Drebin!!
DREBIN: Yeah I'm Drebin.
BAD GUY: I have a message for you from Vincent Ludwig! TAKE THAT YOU--(fires gun repeatedly)
DREBIN: I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Don't fire the gun while you're talking!
Great scene (Dragon, not Breakfast)! That's what really woke me up. Before that, I was like "what's the big deal?" After that, "Oh. Ohhhhhh. Yea dude not cool"
To quote Airplane, "What a pisser." Yeah I know art is subjective, and it's up to the viewer to interpret, but I'd pay good money for Kubrick to explain it once and for all. I read the Arthur C Clarke books (2001, 2010, 2061) which follow 1 possible explanation, but I'm convinced Kubrick had something else in mind.
I've had a mild obsession with tracking down any interviews Kubrick has ever given on the subject, and the only clues I ever found were 1) it touches on his personal belief in God/gods but is ultimately a mystery, and 2) No, he was NOT on drugs when he did the final scenes haha
PS I recommend the movie 2010 even though it takes a different approach. It catches a lot of heat for being a sequel to such an un-sequelable movie, but I think Hyams did a great job (he also directed Capricorn One & Outland).
I don't know if you've been following the recent science news that Jupiter's red spot is shrinking/rising, but that's so close to something that happens in 2010, it's absolutely creepy.
Hi there, Ambo First Blood Part II.
See what I did there? I didn't call you Ambi or Ambie. That's how we deal with stalkers around here.
Who were you on imdb? I'm another refugee with 10 years of nonsense on that site. Wondering if we ever crossed paths.
Too late, we're there ;) Nah, I agree it was a very different world, and Al Jolson's performance is nothing but charming. But somehow I feel like this is total troll bait lol
Well, that or Al Jolson in The Jazz Singer but we are NOT going there
^ we have a winner
I got my masters in Physics and worked with NASA for a few years (much less impressive than it sounds, my job consisted of watching a machine shoot microwaves at Space Shuttle tiles all day). I'm not familiar with all those topics you listed. Typically career physicists specialize in 1 or 2 areas with just a general knowledge of the rest, just like doctors. My areas were particle dynamics and acoustics (flunked out of emag... that sh*t is satan). Did you have a specific question for physicists or is this just a random question?
Score! I think we got it
Draft #3 Soylent Green remake starring Anthony Hopkins
Last line: "People. It's people. Someone bring me some fava beans and a nice chianti fthfthfthfthfth"
Awesome story, one of my favorite scifis. And the OP is spot on, the beginning is downright disturbing with the sandmen having such fun blasting people into goo which gets mopped up by the maintenance robots. "Run, runner!"
I just googled the latest news on the remake, and as of last month they say it's on track with director Peter Craig (X-Men Dark Phoenix) and the screenwriter from Hunger Games. That bums me out because it sounds like it'll turn into another forgettable action flick, but I guess we'll see.
One reason why I'm actually hoping for a remake is that the original Logan's Run is in DIRE need of restoration and blu-ray release. The current blu-ray is barely better than the DVD. So usually when a movie gets remade, they also cash in on remastering/re-releasing the original. That's all I'm waiting for.
Well ok... Draft #2
Director: M Night Shyamalan
Last line: "I taste dead people."
I'd like to see a lousy remake where the last line is "IT TASTES JUST LIKE CHICKEN! CHICKENNNNN!!"
Nah I believe it was Kubrick's representation of a dimensional shift (wormhole?). In the book, which isn't necessarily Kubrick's interpretation, it's a "star gate" which leads Bowman on a tour through alien civilizations before dumping him in a menagerie where he's studied by the monolith makers.
I really don't think Kubrick was thinking that literally; to me the movie is meant to show us an abstract "enlightenment". Kubrick was pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so we may never know for sure.
What you're thinking about may be the sequel 2010 where, someone correct me if I'm wrong, we learn that Bowman reached the monolith orbiting Jupiter, looked inside, uttered the cryptic words "My God, its full of stars" and vanished.
[quote]But when it comes to affairs, we would have to look down on just about every President in history for those who had affairs. [/quote]
Agreed, all politicians seem to have a layer of scum on them. But I think the only way that'll change is if the voters demand a better class of candidate. I'm pretty thrilled about the #metoo movement cleaning house on both sides of the aisle. I would think even hard right wingers should be happy because that's the anti-establishment movement that Trump promised but never delivered.
I think finally both the Rep and Dem party controllers are realizing that they can't just stick their pet favorites on the ticket and watch voters cling to party lines. Even the polls are showing more & more Americans are like me... disappointed with both parties and waiting to see which side will get their act together (i.e. no professed party affiliation).
LOL. I'm doing the dance from Bill & Ted 2
"You might be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with The Prect!"
I think comparing 2001 & 2010 is sorta like comparing Beethoven & the Beatles. Hands down we all know which is more powerful and meaningful as a work of art, but in our hearts we know which one we'd rather hear when we flip on the radio.
So, much like with music, it depends on what mood I'm in. If I'm in a movie watching mode, then I agree 2010 is more engaging as far as a relatable human story goes, just like Abbey Road. But sometimes I want to be challenged, even if I don't understand it (or it has "too many notes"), that's when I'll go for a film like 2001. Or Beethoven's 9th.
Sttrictly on a moral level. I think the leader of this country should be someone we all can idolize as a policy maker as well as a human being. You have to admit (especially in light of the racist/haters that Trump is coaxing out of the woodwork) that a nation's citizens feel free to emulate their leader.
When the story of Bill Clinton's sexcapades came out, I was crushed. That openly ok'd the culture of womanizing and sexual deception that we're stuck with today (and the ante is raised by Trump's porn star and Playboy model cheating). Call me crazy, but I think this country desperately needs a good guy (or girl) in the Whitehouse who can act as a role model.
Disclaimer: I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination. I'm going by the personal morality that I live by and hope my girlfriend will live by!
Agreed on The Box. There are a lot of movies that are based on a great short story idea, but in their attempt to stretch it to a 90 min feature film, they die a miserable death. Almost every attempt to make an Edgar Allan Poe feature film has fallen prey to this.
Dolan's Cadillac (adaptation of "Cask of Amontillado")
Tell-Tale (adaptation of "The Tell-Tale Heart")
and at least a dozen movies that call themselves "The Raven" :/