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I so wish they would have stayed with the original premise of the show; following a family as the outbreak starts to rip apart Los Angeles. So in S1 we go from seeing the first zombie then five episodes later they're on a boat bound for Mexico and any chance to see civilization, as a whole, crumble is wasted.
Their mission is to make to at least 90-100 episodes so the show will go into syndication then cancel this horrid program.
Now, they may have explained this during last season or during this episode but when did the photojournalist learn how to fly a military aircraft? Seriously, was it mentioned at some time and I just don't remember? Perhaps a nod to that actress starring in another downed aircraft show (Lost)?
Also, I knew it was going to be more of the same for this season when they started off with the overused rifle-jams-when-you-most-need-it trope. It would have been more dramatic and less insulting just to have him run out of ammo.
Lastly, in a world where most of the population has been eradicated leaving vast open areas in which to build a settlement they decided that risking their lives to take back something that isn't theirs is the way to go. I get that they put a lot of work into it but going with that plan just leads to more survivor deaths that could have been prevented but this show has been all about the survivors (Clarks) destroying everything.
I vote yes, yes, and some more yes. I was hoping they’d bring back some of the minor characters from early in the series.
When I think of Jensen in a cowboy movie I think of the episode Frontierland where Dean is so proud of his serape and "authentic" western wear only to get ridiculed once he gets in town. Still, Ackles could pull it off.
I also think Jensen will do fine after the show ends. He has great range in his acting and has shown that throughout the show. Not to be insulting but Jared can be somewhat wooden at times. Of course, this is parodied by the show itself in "Fan Fiction" where the boys are directly mirrored by Marie and Maeve. And for the record, the actress that played Marie absolutely nailed that performance. Like Jensen, she brought a ton of nuance to her character.
I don't know...premiers eight months after the end of last season? They think they're The Sopranos or something? Four seasons of wasted opportunities tell me there will be just more of the same in S5.
I'd like to ask a couple of questions:
1. After each episode of the first four seasons, how many of you just sat there and wondered what the hell just happened? I mean in terms of actual story progression vs characters doing random stupid #%$&. The episodes seemed to be structured around useless emoting from the Clark family and the occasional, unsatisfactory zombie interaction where a single character brings down a hoard with just a sharpened twig or some such stupid sh!t.
2. If the first four seasons were available for streaming, would you binge watch them (assumes that you've already seen them)? Would you recommend the show to someone that hasn't?
My answers:
1. I ended every episode feeling like nothing happened. That someone had to come up with enough dialog for an hour long show and wound up with conversation less interesting than the banter of two teenagers on a first date at the table next to you at the local pizza buffet.
2. I would rewatch the pilot episode and dream of what could have been.
I'm probably wrong but, to me, Jared's body language tells me he isn't fully onboard with ending the show. Maybe a 70/30 decision with Jensen leading the way. Just my two cents.
The first episode of Supernatural I ever saw was "Scarecrow" during a marathon on TNT. Just that one episode had me hooked. Only 11 episodes into season one and they're already freakin' nailing it. Many new shows, even the so-called "great ones", take at least a season or two to flesh out their characters and story. Some never do. Supernatural hit the ground running and never looked back. Just think of all the wonderful characters the show has brought us over the years. Some of them, like Bobby and Castiel, were supposed to be one or two episode characters but were so well written and acted they instantly became part of the family. Remember when "Lost" tried to force some new characters on its viewers? Wound up having to kill them off because of poor fan reaction. I've seen seven seasons of Supernatural and can't think of one character that fits that bill.
But what I love the most about Supernatural are the meta episodes. Any show that can poke fun of itself, its fans, its genre, even its very own actors all the while still adding to the overall in-show universe is just plain brilliant. I don't know if the more hardcore fans like these episodes but they are my go-to when I want to sit back and have a whiskey and a laugh. As I've said, I've seen seven seasons. Other than "Baby" and "Fan Fiction" I haven't strayed past S7. Now that the show is ending, I've restarted from the beginning and plan to keep going until the final episode. I know this is going to sound bizarre, but I think of Supernatural in the same way I remember Stevie Ray Vaughn. Both hit incredible highs but never, ever lost their true self.
If anyone from the show reads these posts, let me say that you have made something that will stand the test of time. I can't think of a single critically acclaimed, highly lauded show that has the sheer number of beloved characters and memorable episodes that Supernatural has. And because of this, Supernatural has its place among the greats.
But he was only 21 years old...unless medically relevant.
He was one of my favorite applicants during S4 of House.
Cancel the Walking Dead.
Ah, Birdemic, my absolute favorite Rifftrax Live movie and one of the worst movies of all time. Sadly, it shares many similarities with FTWD in that both are perfect examples of disjointed storytelling, laughable SFX, wooden acting, bad character development and writing leading to rooting for the birds/zombies to kill the “heroes” already...is that enough? I think that should be enough.
I’ve watched Rifftrax’s Birdemic at least half a dozen times and still laugh out loud. I will not be viewing FTWD again once AMC shats out enough eps to go into syndication. Unless Rifftrax is riffing them, of course.
Old thread, I know, but you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! I'm watching it right now and she owns every scene she's in. Even the other hot DJ chick pales in comparison (not by much, though).
I love this movie because it was filmed at the 'Bordertown' movie set in Vancouver where some great series did some episodes (X-Files, Supernatural, Stargate SG-1, and more).
I love the host segments. Not so much the early Joel invention exchange ones but rather the ones that have the bots becoming one of the characters in the movie like when Crow became a Valerian during Space Mutiny. It's brilliant because they continue to mock the movie on a visual level that can't be done inside the SOL theater. Every second is spent pounding on the movie and I love it.
MST3K on Netflix and Rifftrax on Amazon Prime make sure I have something to enjoy all the time. I just wish Netflix would release a new set of classic episodes soon. I haven't seen any of the Revival eps yet. I guess I'm afraid they won't measure up to the classic great ones.
I really like your idea, ps48. I guess the closest they came was the episode 'Lower Decks' (S7E15) which has us following around some up-and-coming officers doing their thing away (mostly) from the main cast.
An entire episode that begins with a crew member we've never seen before starting his/her day doing the usual menial nonsense then as the day progresses there is an attack on the ship and we hear the main characters over the intercom but never see them in action. So many ways that story could be told; with a comedic flavor having the crewman being simply irritated with the attack interfering with his daily routine and is constantly second guessing the decisions made by the main characters (and he's proved right); the usual dramatic tone with the crewman struggling with his duties while the ship is nearly destroyed around him; or a darker turn where he is KIA not as a hero but rather just another casualty we know happens but never see.
I've always enjoyed the episodes that took us away from the typical formula, Picard's vacation, for example. I believe Barclay was initially a throw-away character but the writers found him to be a fresh face to go along with the main cast. Our crewman, should he survive the episode, could make occasional appearances.
I've gone through the first seven seasons on Netflix a few times now and have come to a few conclusions:
1. Carell was an absolute master throughout his run. Can't think of single episode where he was a buzzkill.
2. Jim was an ass. He allowed himself considerable, unchecked latitude when dealing with Dwight and the others but was always up on his cross moralizing to them. I loved the episodes that put him in his place (Charles Minor eps, Koi pond ep, and snowball fight with Dwight ep).
3. Pam probably had some flaws but I couldn't see them since she was so smoking hot. Yep, I'm a sap.
4. Andy was a great addition until the writers started putting him into ridiculous situations just to highlight Ed's musical talent. Helms has great comedic talent yet he's always singing and hamming it up in, of all places, an office. 'Andy's Play' being a perfect example of this. I didn't watch seasons eight or nine but can imagine his character only devolved further.
5. Angela...(see item 3)
6. I think Rainn portrayed Dwight true to the original concept the longest of the main players even though the writers eventually started turning his character into a farce. I wish they would have included Rolf more as his sidekick. That dude was perfect for Dwight.
7. Creed was my outright favorite. He was such an enigma. Indisputable King of the non sequitur.
As I said earlier, I haven't seen S8 or S9 the exception being the series finale. I tuned in when it was first broadcast and the one thing that stood out the most to me was how the entire cast seemed to be just phoning it in. The entire episode seemed like a table read to me. Like the cast were just ready to call it a day and get on to something else.
The show was greatest S1 - S5 with S6 and 7 mostly good but starting to show cracks in the overall series arc.
"I think Morgan crossover was to takeover leadership from Madision."
This makes absolute sense. What's-her-name probably said she wanted off the show between S3 and S4 to pursue other projects that didn't suck and the show needed a strong protagonist to step up, albeit reluctantly, and lead our merry band of Hell spawn. Spend half of S4 washing survivor blood off of Madison's hands so to make her a more sympathetic character then martyr her. Waste the rest of the season putting Morgan through an emotional crucible so he comes to terms with his past and decides to rejoin humanity. The problem is none of this was achieved with any nuance. Save money and just broadcast the storyboard.
I just figured that once June heard what they were poisoned with she should have also known that drinking alcohol would help at that point. Hell, I even knew that from watching House! Now that was a show (at least the first four seasons).
What would be great is the entirety of S5 would be Daniel's story of what he's been doing the past year. Now that the Scooby Doo gang is riding around saving humanity one warm beer at a time we can learn what Daniel has been up to. Maybe some flashbacks with Mercedes Mason involved. But to write Daniel properly you have to start with a writing staff that has some actual life experience and not the crew that wrote flying zombies as a real thing.
1. I was puzzled why they were using their bottled water to make coffee when they had tap water available.
2. Unless the tanker was near bone dry it would have taken a while to drain completely with only a few holes in it.
3. Why didn't the "nurse" know that drinking an alcoholic beverage would cure them? It only occurred to her after Mo-Mo brings it up. SMH
4. The gas station apparently had no back door for them to use thus the slo-mo schlock exit through the barricade of zombies.
Speaking of Morgan, if you watched the Talking Dead after the show you can clearly see Lennie James hates that his character has been reduced to a simplistic dumbass nickname. And on a personal note, this is the first episode in the entire series when I sat down to watch I couldn't answer one little question: Why am I even bothering to watch anymore? I had no answer. So, like many of you, I think S4 will be my last. It was fun to pick it apart but even that has slipped into the mundane. It's like a TV show made by people that have never seen a TV show before. And to think the premise of the show was to document the start of a global apocalypse and we instead get a family even more cartoonish than The Simpsons.
I thought about ditching the show after every episode since season one but hung on thinking they had some grand storyline they were going to reveal that tied it all together. But sadly, no such thing happened. And the idea that the show is a parody or a campy knockoff of TWD doesn't quite ring true for me. I believe those folks think they're making something solid (insert poo joke here) and noteworthy.
I realized that around mid-season two they seemed to be just winging it. I look at it like a commercial aircraft taking off; once you start your takeoff you have a speed, V1, where it's your last moment to abort the takeoff safely. I think they ignored V1 in the first season, sped down the runway in season two, and crashed into the tree line in season three. Season four tried to clean up the mess but wound up getting the ambulance stuck in the mud.